Man With Hitler Speech as Ringtone Faces Jailtime

[Silmarunya]

post removed as your breaching ToS and starting to annoy me ..

Settle down or enjoy one of my 2 or 3 day holidays.

 

[EvilMonk]

Come on, the Soviets during WWII were sharing a gun between 10 soldiers, they were only victorious because of Stalin's men shooting them if they tried to leave the battlefield. I think they had a lot more to do in WWII victory than the Americans. And I ain't Russian nor American, I'm French, my family lived WWII.

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Actually I was just exercising my right to free speechBut thanks for giving me a laugh[/citation]

And I was using my right to objectively denounce arguments (or rather meaningless statements made by someone who probably knows not a single Muslim personally and didn't read the work written by Western scholars about Islam and by Muslims themselves). If you think something as simple as that is funny, you must be laughing 24/24

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]EvilMonk[/nom]Come on, the Soviets during WWII were sharing a gun between 10 soldiers, they were only victorious because of Stalin's men shooting them if they tried to leave the battlefield. I think they had a lot more to do in WWII victory than the Americans. And I ain't Russian nor American, I'm French, my family lived WWII.[/citation]

And what about the T34? It outperformed the American Sherman by miles and was produced in vast numbers. Or the Sturmovik plane that destroyed entire German military units? Or the JS3 Heavy Tank that was so powerful the British and Americans spent years trying to devise a way they could even stand a grain of chance should Stalin suddenly have turned aggresive on the West? Or the Stalin Organs that threw German forces in disarray?

You're referring to supply problems that plagued Soviet forces in the beginning of the war, but please get your facts strait before saying the only advantage the Soviets had were numbers. That's something German propaganda said, but not the German generals (I quote Guderian: "the only way to deal with the T34 would be to copy it")

 

[gmcboot]

Maybe you should find some of the few remaining vets either in the states, England, Poland, Italy, to name a few to discuss the roles of the United States in WWII. I have no idea of you are american or whatever, but before you dismiss the role of the US in WWII you should actually know something about it.


[citation][nom]Silmarunya[/nom]It's somewhat understandable. For an American, European WW II is a rather far off thing that they didn't get involved in up close (no civilian casualties and the American role in Allied victory is next to nothing - Soviet Russia single handedly destroyed Germany with British air support).But for Germans, Hitler's terror is still very much alive. They dread Nazism. They suffered immensely due to it. And then someone thinks it's funny to play Hitler quotes in public? I'll start reciting the Quran during a Christian meeting. Or shout how America isn't socialist enough at a Tea Party meeting. That's how respectful it is...[/citation]

 

[gmcboot]

What makes you think we Glorify the German War Machine? Too many men and women died fighting that war machine. I know it is "cool" to hate the US now. But can I tell you a secret, thinking you know America and Americans by watching television is just plain stupid. If you want to know America and Americans, talk to us, don't assume that the TV you get about us is fact. When I mean talk to us I don't mean from a Blog where crackpots says stupid stuff just to be stupid.

[citation][nom]theuerkorn[/nom]Okay I am German, and Freedom of Speech does not apply to hatred ... at least in Germany. Hence, having someone broadcast such material in public is an offense no matter which way it goes.Most "historic" broadcasts in the US certainly glorify the German war machine and it's no wonder people think it's not that bad. In fact there is a sick admiration prevalent in some people. Think of it as slander, and "every American" (stereotypical) would go to court for that. Just as "freedom of speech" doesn't apply to that, it doesn't in this case.[/citation]

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]gmcboot[/nom]You are a moron an know nothing of history. Maybe you should find some of the few remaining vets either in the states, England, Poland, Italy, to name a few to discuss the roles of the United States in WWII. I have no idea of you are american or whatever, but before you dismiss the role of the US in WWII you should actually know something about it.[/citation]

And veterans are better qualified then scholars to discuss something?

I do NOT dismiss American help as being insignificant. Their material aid was vital. They took a lot of the pressure off Britain. They lost quite a few men.

But when you compare them to what Soviet Russia did, it just pales. They made more sacrifices than all other Allies combined. They killed more German soldiers than all other allies combined.

 

[nickz3535]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Very few? So there are some then.Let me guess, the Imams?[/citation]

Gotta love the ignorant Americans. Sheesh, sometimes I'm ashamed to live in the same country as these people. But hey, it's a product of the Bush years. "A Muslim is a terrorist". It's really sad that our children are growing up believing in this ideological rubish.

 

[nickz3535]

[citation][nom]gmcboot[/nom]You are a moron an know nothing of history. Maybe you should find some of the few remaining vets either in the states, England, Poland, Italy, to name a few to discuss the roles of the United States in WWII. I have no idea of you are american or whatever, but before you dismiss the role of the US in WWII you should actually know something about it.[/citation]

By the way you speak, you sound like the moron. Some Americans actually study World War II for a living, and to us you are the ones that sound moronic. Contrary to popular belief, "veterans" know very little about the war as opposed to professional historians and those who actually study the war past the high school level or have relatives who fought in the war and thus justify their knowledge of the war based on "wow, my gpa was there".

 

[Regulas]

No pro-Nazi points are of interest here.

 

[gmcboot]

Lets see, people who were there and experienced war, or people like you who let their personal biases color historical fact.

Yes the Russians lost more soldiers in the war, but Americans were better prepared with better equipment and better tactics. As for your suggestion that Normandy was a cake walk and had no significance, again, it would be good if you talk to a veteran who lived through it. You seem to also forget the other enemy in WWII, Japan, I guess Russia beat them too. Who had more men and women on that front of the war?

Lastly you also forget who helped get Europe and Japan back on their feet after the war.

I can see you for who you are, and what you are. It makes you feel very smart and elitist to think you know something the rest of us don't know. Go and smoke your clove cigarettes with you emo buddies and make up your false histories to make you feel better about having no stake in any game past present or future.

[citation][nom]Silmarunya[/nom]And veterans are better qualified then scholars to discuss something? I do NOT dismiss American help as being insignificant. Their material aid was vital. They took a lot of the pressure off Britain. They lost quite a few men.But when you compare them to what Soviet Russia did, it just pales. They made more sacrifices than all other Allies combined. They killed more German soldiers than all other allies combined.[/citation]

 

[jj463rd]

[citation][nom]Silmarunya[/nom]Roughly 3 million German soldiers died on the Eastern Front. Less than a million on the Western. Who contributed most to Germany's defeat then?The number of American soldiers involved in the war was dwarfed by those deployed by Russia. German tank commanders mocked the poorly designed Sherman Tank and feared the excellent and easily mass-produced T34. Normandy was pretty easy. Most of the western troops had already been moved to the Eastern Front by D-Day.America's material contribution cannot be disputed, it was indeed vital for both Britain and Russia (and conveniently helped slumping American industry, but that's not relevant here). However, the effort of sending lots of material is less then the effort of losing 25 million countrymen like Russia had to endure.[/citation]
You have to remember that the Soviet Union had a pact with Germany and both conquered Poland so it was only a matter of time in which each totalitarian regime rival would turn against the other in a titanic battle.Germany struck first of course.Had she not the Soviet Union had plans on striking the west.
Germany was in ruins (bombed out cities) before Soviet forces ever entered Germany proper.Also the Soviets lacked a Stragetic Air Force unlike the vast armadas of RAF bomber command and the USAAF.The German Army Group Centre in Operation Bagration collapsed in due to large parts from the lack of fuel and paralysis of German Forces from Allied Bombing.The Soviets did have a fine tactical air force to assist greatly in ground battles (especially their iL-2).The United States of America didn't enter the war until Hitler declared war on her so being thousands of miles away on the other side of the Earth naturally it would take a good amount of time to ship these armed forces to Europe and Africa.No one is denying the large contributions that the Soviet forces did out of desperate defense of their country but to imply that the Soviet Union defeated Germany single handedly is ludacris.If Germany had but one front it would be quite possible that Germany would have won the war especially with their Dyhernsfurth secret weapon (Tabun) which was never used in the war (Hitler did want to unleash it in 1943 but feared Allied chemical warfare bombing retaliation).The large stocks of Tabun would have easily wiped out vast defenseless Soviet Forces.As it was neither Britain nor the USA had any comparable type of weapon as the Germans devastating Tabun,Sarin or Soman except for the type N Anthrax ordnance that was produced but never used in the war.

 

[Reynod]

Lets keep the topic on the ring tone and leave the RACIST COMMENTS out of the discussion.

It saves me deleting posts, sending people on short holidays, and gives me a chance to post too.

I did google some of Hitler's speeches a while back, and watched and listened as I was studying Hegel and Nietsche ... his voice gave me goosebumps ... albeit my German is poor at best ... I did understand some of it.

He was a frightening man and highly charismatic.

I am sure no civilised nation would ever allow themselves to be fooled by such an utterly evil and deceitful individual like that again.

I totally support the German people's right to publically supress and criminalise anything associated with the era of the Nazis.

I Had to watch 2 Disney movies to revocer from that ordeal myself.

 

[Guest]

I love this guy...

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]regulas[/nom]Your an idiot, look into a mirror you assFact: The Nazi party were Socialists and liberal environmentalists too.The National Socialistiche Duetsche Arbeiter Partei (A.K.A The National Socialist German Workers Party), referred to as the Nazi Party had several key party platforms:Universal EducationGauranteed EmploymentWelfare for the Elderly (Social Security)Nationalization of IndustryNationalized Health CareAbolition of market-based lendingHitler was:Anti-smokingAnti-CapitalistPro Gun ControlPro EuthanasiaPro Animal Rightsand a vegetarian.Some memorable Nazi slogans:"Public need before private greed""Everything must be different""People's community!""We socialize human beings"[/citation]

Yup. And the Tea Party Movement unfortunately goes to the other extreme end of the scale.

Extremes are always bad. Communism is terrible, socialism isn't. Casino 'laissez-faire, laissez-passer' capitalism doesn't work, capitalism with some state control works well.

Moderacy is need, and actually present day Germany does that pretty well...

 

[Guest]

I'm another idiot.

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]gmcboot[/nom]Lets see, people who were there and experienced war, or people like you who let their personal biases color historical fact. Yes the Russians lost more soldiers in the war, but Americans were better prepared with better equipment and better tactics. As for your suggestion that Normandy was a cake walk and had no significance, again, it would be good if you talk to a veteran who lived through it. You seem to also forget the other enemy in WWII, Japan, I guess Russia beat them too. Who had more men and women on that front of the war? Lastly you also forget who helped get Europe and Japan back on their feet after the war. I can see you for who you are, and what you are. It makes you feel very smart and elitist to think you know something the rest of us don't know. Go and smoke your clove cigarettes with you emo buddies and make up your false histories to make you feel better about having no stake in any game past present or future.[/citation]

Better equipped? The Sherman tank was widely mocked, being inferior only to the Japanese junk. It's only advantage was the ease of mass-producing it.

The Pacific was an American war won by Americans, that's true (although Japanese forces were weakened and stretched thin by more than a decade of guerilla warfare in China).

Talking to someone who was there? Why? To hear an account based on personal and thus by definition biased personal experience? And you should talk to a veteran of the Eastern front if you want to hear real horror stories.

True, the Marshall aid helped Europe back on its feet (and didn't cost America that much, most of it were long term loans). But yes, that really helped.

 

[korsen]

After reading what his particular speech was, accompanied by swastikas, he can rot

(How does one not know their native laws?)

 

[jj463rd]

Oh well to a softer note at my mom's house we have a fine Adolf Hitler tapestry in perfect condition as a capured war relic.But I prefer the WW1 Pickelhaube as it fits my head perfectly plus it has a nice case.

 

[gmcboot]

Deleted for breaching the ToS.