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In article <766jc01lgmt4gsbbdd9l1vbnai4187n490@4ax.com>, njtbob2@X-
optonline-X.net says...
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:39:23 -0400, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:
> >No new building were built. I face a park and a river and the buildings
> >on either side have been there for close to 80 years.
>
> The problem could even be that, for example, a new tower was built in New
> Jersey, and your phone is now picking that tower or somehow getting
> confused by the new signals. I've been in some hotels where my phone
> won't get a good signal in a 7th floor room, but it does just fine in the
> hotel parking lot. I figure the extra signals available when up in the
> air were confusing the phone.
>
> Weird signal reflections from other buildings (say, if a new cell site
> was turned on) can also cause problems.
>
> Be persistent with Verizon. They'll figure it out eventually. (More on
> this below.)
>
> Oh, one more thing - They didn't just add cell phone antennas to your
> building's roof, did they? I've had trouble inside a building where the
> cell site was on the roof.
>
> >I don't know the
> >location of the cell site I was using - how does one find that out?
>
> Do a Google Groups search for a thread with the subject "PN Offset
> Interpretation". Basically, you bring up the debug screen and get the PN
> Offset value your phone is using. The PN Offset is unique for each cell
> site sector. The difference between the PN Offset values used by each
> sector on a single site is 168. e.g., a site could have PN Offsets of
> 24, 192, and 360 for the three sets of antennas. Then you walk/drive
> around until you get a strong signal strength (in the -50 dBm range) for
> that PN Offset. If you then circle the site, you'll see the PN Offset go
> through the three possible values separated by 168. You've found the
> cell site!
>
> Regarding signal problems, if you do a Google Groups search for "water
> tank bounce", you'll find the following post (BAM is Bell Atlantic
> Mobile, a predecessor of Verizon Wireless):
>
> >A about three years ago, BAM was having a network problem. I live 2
> >miles north of a then BAM tower in RI, that tower has no north face.
> >After weeks of problems, BAM traced my cell phone and discovered I was
> >routing through the south face of the RI tower. Well, draw some lines,
> >it was water tank bounce!
> >
> >The problem was, BAM thought it was impossible to interfere with the
> >nearby MA towers and that tower was not co-ordinated with those
> >towers. It was less than one square mile, odd shaped area, that had
> >this unusual (?) problem. In this small area, I was hitting two
> >uncoordinated towers. Different states, same home SID.
Thanks for the info - I hope I don't have to figure it out
I did get the idea to post a notice in my apartment building and found
another VZ user having the same difficulties. I gave her the phone
number for the tech I was dealing with, along with my trouble ticket
number and she spoke with him as well.
I'm told they are sending "a crew" out here tomorrow to check out the
cell sites in the area.
If this is true, and I think it probably is, I think they've handled it
pretty well so far, but of course it's not fixed yet, so we'll see.
The tech did have me call a number several times so he could see what
cell sites I was hitting. I don't know how he did that, but he seemed
to be sincerely trying to figure things out and that is reassuring.
If necessary, I plan to post notices on the block and more in my
building and I can probably get many trouble tickets opened - that
"should" get someone's attention if the present efforts don't succeed.
Louise
/www.nyc.gov/html/misc/html/mobilesurvey.html
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