Microsoft: Ballmer Misquoted, No Blu-ray on Xbox

[Magnumload]

[citation][nom]dman3k[/nom]considering that the xbox has a better online service, better looking games, better exclusive titles, and hulu/netflix capable, the ps3 is useless other than to watch blu-ray movies.[/citation]
LOL.
Better online service, that is true. Better looking games? LOLLOL. Uncharted 2 anyone?
Better exclusive titles, that's all because Microsoft likes to swing their big dick around and companies come and suck it dry to make exclusives.
And cool for netflix, at least I can stream movies over WI-FI out of the box, have fun trying to do that with the Xbox out of the box.
Oh and blu-ray is a very nice format to use for games, much more space.

 

[Magnumload]

Oh and I forgot to add, PS3 has a lot of features the 360 has minus RRoD.

 

[bigalfantasy2004]

If you could get one box with all of the Wifi, HD, streaming, blu-ray, and gaming technology there is currently, that'd be pretty sweet. Why these companies decide to limit themselves in one area or another makes no sense. I know in some cases it's not their decision, but I haven't committed to either Xbox or PS3 because of this situation. I have however committed to a completely upgradeable PC which seems to allow me to do all of these things.

 

[sailfish]

I agree with others that a BLU-Ray option for the 360 doesn't make any sense. I also have both consoles but have never considered buying a BLU-Ray DVD. Also, I find myself buying less and less standard DVDs anymore and simply use Netflix streaming or Hulu.net.

Considering the support cost alone they would end up having to charge more than what a stand alone BLU-Ray device will cost in a few months, as well.

I don't see any upside for them, honestly.

 

[spectrewind]

[citation][nom]dman3k[/nom]considering that the xbox has a better online service, better looking games, better exclusive titles, and hulu/netflix capable, the ps3 is useless other than to watch blu-ray movies.[/citation]

@dman3k
We don't need another troll like you here. Got links? Proof of what you say? You sound like another XBOX fanboy who is clueless.

BTW - PS3 is Hule/Netflix capable. Do a google search for Mediamall PlayOn. It works for both platforms, btw.

You F*cking loser. Get a clue, then post.

 

[jawshoeaw]

streaming video a decade ago was a blurry postage stamp. Now it's a blurry 100" image on my projector. In a year or two, streaming HD will look "good enough", as it does for many. If it's a TV show streaming off netflix, or a movie where absolute crystal sharp image is not as important (to me anyway) then it's already good enough. Personally, I like the more "film-like" look you get with streaming. I was in Fry's electronics the other day looking at the 50"+ TVs and the images looked too crisp - almost like watching an old camcorder. To be fair, some of these had their stupid 120Hz or 240Hz fake interpolation which makes even classic movies look like a sitcom from the 80's. But I also watched Casino Royale (new one) on Blu-Ray on a 70" rear projection Mitsu. There was definitely more detail but I can't say I enjoyed the movie more. I enjoyed the experience, as my first blu-ray movie and we rewatched same on standard DVD, including several scenes played on both over and over for comparison. It was all an interesting lesson in technology. I did notice any improvement in sound since hardware was 5.1 anyway. Both sounded fantastic. If anything, the audio experience at home is superior to the local cineplex. If Microsoft wants to improve viewer experience, I say stay away from Blu-Ray until it's the cheap standard that DVD is. More importantly, streaming needs to be improved not in resolution but in reduced hiccups, less screen tearing, etc. I don't care if it's 720 or 1080 but I don't want to have the movie stop in midstream. My wife won't even watch streaming movies right now because of the annoying stuttering you get about 1/4 of the time. Of course this is not all MS, some is internet provider, graphics card, etc. There's always a place for media but streaming I think will be the major form with plastic the minor. But I don't want to have to backup terabytes of movies that i paid for/pirated - it's too expensive when I can have a disc. (I would like too see a lifetime media warranty for Blu-Ray)

GO Microsoft with giving choices, not ramming it down your throat for once!

 

[cookoy]

Too much pride to admit a mistake. Ok if you set the standard. Who are the losers here?

 

[PodSix]

[citation][nom]magnumload[/nom]Oh and I forgot to add, PS3 has a lot of features the 360 has minus RRoD.[/citation]

Just let me remind you that without the X360 you'd still be paying $599 per console. I own all 3 and each one serves a certain niche. I use the PS3 for blu-ray and some first party titles but their third-party adoption sucks hard. The X360 I use for their vastly superior online play, Netflix streaming and to be fair, most gaming. The Wii I generally use for franchises that I wouldn't like to let go of (Mario, Metroid, Zelda, etc) and some if it is a lot of fun to pull out when I have people over. However, even though their third party support surely isn't lacking, it still sucks. Everyone and their brother wants to make a game on the Wii. The last good (non first-party) game I got for that was 'No More Heroes' since then it's been dry, IMO.

Ultimately, my original point was without competition this industry would suck, any industry would suck.

 

[dman3k]

Sony fanbois wouldn't recognize the truth. I don't even have an XBOX - I'll play games on the PC. But I do have a PS3 that is only used to watch blu-ray movies. It is otherwise useless.

Mediamall PlayOn? Really? Is that the solution to Hulu/Netflix? Why not just frigging watch it on the computer you're streaming the videos from? This has to be the stupidest Sony fanboi defense ever. Not only does the original PS3 sucks more power, it also needs to suck additional power from the PC just to watch Hulu or Netflix videos... ROFL!

Facts:
*XBox has better graphic card.
*PS3 is much harder to program for and the developers are lazy on it. Who cares if the PS3 has one more usable processing core?

Better graphics and better games on the XBox - FACTS! Anyone who says otherwise are just blind haters.

 

[PodSix]

Oh, and Microsoft kinda really annoys me on this one. If in the original interview they were talking about the X360 and the question was ABOUT Blu-ray on the X360, then the ANSWER was regarding the X360. His answer was

"Well I don't know if we need to put Blu-ray in there-you'll be able to get Blu-ray drives as accessories."

It's obvious to me he was talking about a piece of hardware hardware. 'In there?' In what? Windows? Windows is hardware?

All this boils down to is another situation where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Did someone high up in Microsoft want a Blu-ray add-on for the X360 and not tell the xbox division? Did the xbox division decide to scrap the Blu-ray idea and forget to tell their CEO? Was the whole blu-ray accessory thing supposed to be a 'big surprise' but since someone reputable let the cat out of the bag early so now the xbox division has to cover-up and lie about WHAT THEIR CEO SAID so they can release said accessory in a few months, give 'jazz hands' and go 'ta-da' and when someone says, well wasn't this announced a few months ago and you denied it they'll just say "yeah, well... we changed our minds."

Depending on what the situation may be, either stop leading people around by the ear, get a CEO that knows what the hell is going on in his own company or improve your ability to communicate across divisions.

Major Nelson, I call bullsh*t.

 

[badaxe2]

Of course that wasn't what he meant. Jeez is it that slow of a news day that everytime Microsoft says "Bluray" a story has to follow about a new 360 addon possibility? They've said how many times now that they won't. Face it, MGS 4 never came to 360, and neither will Bluray.

 

[astrodudepsu]

[citation][nom]tayb[/nom]No reason to. I have a PS3 and own exactly ONE blu-ray movie that I bought on sale at Fry's. I'll probably buy Star Trek when it comes out on blu-ray but that's about it for the year I think. The movies look better but they don't look five times better, which is about how much more they cost. I'm already streaming Netflix straight to my Xbox which is much more convenient anyways. I don't really care if it's not uncompressed 1080p, it looks fine.[/citation]


FIVE times more? wtf, how much are you paying for Blu-Ray disks? A "new" DVD is 15-20 and the Blu-Ray version is 25-30.

 

[jalek]

As for blu-ray, since the players are $100 at times, it wouldn't seem like a major ordeal. Having to cut a check to Sony for using their format might be annoying though.

Streaming 1080p? Did they clear that with US cable companies?
You'll get three movies a month, then get cut off, or "traffic shaped" into one-second still frames.

 

[jalek]

If you can't find Blu-ray movies for $10-15 (not recent releases though), you aren't looking hard enough.

I don't buy many primarily because a pre-1990 movie in Blu-ray is too noisy and looks like it's from a weak analog broadcast signal.

 

[the_one111]

[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]LOL I'm a total fanboy lol , why am i still a total fanboy , lol why do i like to get on and start flame wars lol why are total fanboys gay? no one knows ![/citation]
We didn't start the flame war!

 

[matt87_50]

what the hell, why would anybody really want a bluray add-on player for the xbox these days? surely a standalone, that is alot quieter and less power hungry could be had for not too much more than any add-on. I can't imagine that there is a massive market for it. also, Microsoft doesn't HATE bluray, they added native support to windows 7 for it, burning as well I think.

As for the 1080p streaming, it is "the future of home entertainment", but not now, and not any time soon, not unless Microsoft has been secretly developing their own internet. However I think it would be an awesome as a rental service, but to own, I'd rather have a disc at this stage.

 

[maddad]

I own the 360, but my son just uses it to play games. I still use the PC myself. I just keep hearing that hi def video streaming is the future, and I am thinking someone forgot to clear this with the cable internet providers. If they plan on taking away unlimited internet and start charging per MB for downloading, want this eliminate streaming videos? Or is streaming not considered as using bandwidth to download? I agree though, that most people wouldn't use Blue Ray on the the xbox 360. Microsoft charges 100 bucks for the wireless adapter, I don't see anyway they could offer a blue ray add on at a reasonable price.

 

[smokinu]

First I want to say That I agree that streaming is the way of the future however with the cap limits that the ISP's are going (might) implement then MS will have to start selling blue ray asd no one will be able to afford streaming with cap limits. I can not believe that they have no thought about this. Cap limits are just as much as a problem to MS, Sony, Netlifx, etc as it is to the consumer. I blieve that they are going to loose too much business by not offering an addon device and will realize it before too long.

 

[ricdiculus]

[citation][nom]dman3k[/nom]Facts:*XBox has better graphic card.[/citation]

You, uh, sure about that Hoss??

 

[grando]

You know it appears that no one has mentioned the fact that if MS did incorporate BLu-ray into the 360, they would have to pay Sony a License fee or something to use technology. Blu-ray was developed & promoted by Sony. So why would you want to pay your competitor for the right to use their tech if you lost out of the format war. They obviuosly found another way to compete w/ the streaming media.