Microsoft, Intel Want to Push iPad's Market Share Below 50%

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Well that means in a year or so when half these companies tank on Tablets because of a flooded market when can pick them up dirt cheap again. 😛 I guess nobody understands to much competition is a bad thing.
 
[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]Was the other guy named Buster?[/citation]

Close as in what it is capable of doing, The Ipad so far has been the most advanced up until recently.
 
Life must be real tough for you. [citation][nom]DroKing[/nom]Pleaseeee because I wanna vomit every time i see an apple product.[/citation]
 
[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]Microsoft is late to the game (as they were with the audio player and smartphone markets). Even if they manage to beat Apple in the tablet market in like 2014, the iPad will have had at least four years of huge profits with hardly any competition. By the time Microsoft and Intel get their act together, Apple will concentrate on something else and Wintel will be competing on razor thin margins in a saturated market. Why didn't Microsoft do it right from the get go with the Tablet PC? Why did it take Steve Jobs to show them how it's done?As an Apple hater (I find offensive their walled-garden approach to product design), I'm sick of having to wait for years while others catch up. Even today, if you want a high res tablet, you're stuck with Apple. If you want a high end 3.5" phone (not everyone wants 4"+), you're stuck with Apple. At least now Wintel have something to offer if you want a thin, light laptop, and it took them what, two years to develop competition to Macbook Air.[/citation]

Well the fact of the matter is, nobody at Microsoft actually cares about what's best for the consumer. They only care about what they can do to diversify their "portfolios" so to speak. I too hate Apple's walled-garden approach to design as you put it, but where Apple shines is that within the garden, their flowers are flourishing. They take a few innovations, synthesize them and make them seem supreme. Microsoft (and now Google) keep building outwardly instead of up. They lack the focus that Apple has and that's why they will fail.
 
The problem with Microsoft and Intel is that instead of completely ignoring the tablet market and pursuing something new and even more "innovative" (hell, they have it right with Kinect and gesture BS, as sad and pathetic as it is), they're trying to play catch-up. Don't. Use the same strategy that they use for promoting the "cloud" BS. Hire a bunch of "experts" to write stupid articles every week about how this or that thing will be dominant on the market by year 2014 and stupid people will buy into it. Don't try to offer them a variety of choices. People today are so retarded and lazy they can't choose anymore, that's why they like the iCrap. It excels in nothing in particular - it doesn't have the keyboard dock awesomeness of Transformer Prime or the kickass screen size of Galaxy Note, but it's the most hyped thing out there and that's why everyone wants one. Therefore don't try to give them choice. They do not deserve it. Just brainwash them into using THIS device and no other.
 
Don't worry, Apple will push its own market share below 50% all by itself - by having ripoff prices and draconian control issues. In fact, in maybe 2-3 years, it'll go down into the teens just like it always does.

People don't like putting up with that crap, and sooner or later most of them figure it out. But don't worry; that's just Apple being Apple.
 
I know I speak for more than just myself when I say that the likelihood of me buying an iPad is essentially nil, whereas the chances of my buying an x86-based tablet with a real operating system (one that stands on its own, as Windows does, rather than depending on a "host" computer) are much better.

I don't care how pretty the screen on the iPad is (and it is very pretty :-\ ), there's just no way I'd spend $500 or more on a computer that is intentionally crippled the way iOS devices are. I want to be able to install Eclipse or Visual Studio (or other development environments) on the device and write new programs for it, or even just install whatever programs I want, without having to "jailbreak" or deal with some company's walled garden BS.
 
32 different Win 8 tablets? There have been a lot more Android tablets than that (and many pronounced as iPad killers), and where are they now?

These companies just don't get it - you're not going to be successful selling a LOT of different hardware devices. Where are the Apps? That fancy new Win 8 tablet is going to get boring really quickly if the customer can't get Apps to perform the functions they desire. Where are the Accessories? What case manufacturer (for example) is going to bother to make anything for the Transformer Prime (which has a measly 80,000 sales as of last month)? Where is the content?

Amazon and Apple get this, but so far Android has completely missed the boat. I doubt Win 8 tablets are going to have an ecosystem like Apple does, and because of that they won't sell.
 
[citation][nom]Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer[/nom]I know I speak for more than just myself when I say that the likelihood of me buying an iPad is essentially nil, whereas the chances of my buying an x86-based tablet with a real operating system (one that stands on its own, as Windows does, rather than depending on a "host" computer) are much better.I don't care how pretty the screen on the iPad is (and it is very pretty :-\ ), there's just no way I'd spend $500 or more on a computer that is intentionally crippled the way iOS devices are. I want to be able to install Eclipse or Visual Studio (or other development environments) on the device and write new programs for it, or even just install whatever programs I want, without having to "jailbreak" or deal with some company's walled garden BS.[/citation]
Another person who doesn't get it. There won't be any x86 tablets, at least not to start. They will be ARM tablets and won't be running any of the desktop software you expect.

And why would someone waste time trying to use a tablet for serious work when they aren't designed for that? Sounds like you really need a good laptop, not a tablet.
 
[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]Another person who doesn't get it. There won't be any x86 tablets, at least not to start. They will be ARM tablets and won't be running any of the desktop software you expect.And why would someone waste time trying to use a tablet for serious work when they aren't designed for that? Sounds like you really need a good laptop, not a tablet.[/citation]
With Intel's new Medfield Atoms, which are very efficient and fast, I do not see why there will not be any x86 tablets. Heck, read the headline here. Intel and MS are working together, and Intel does not make ARM chips.
 
[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]Another person who doesn't get it. There won't be any x86 tablets, at least not to start. They will be ARM tablets and won't be running any of the desktop software you expect.And why would someone waste time trying to use a tablet for serious work when they aren't designed for that? Sounds like you really need a good laptop, not a tablet.[/citation]

The Intel Atom chips are X86, not ARM, so the Wintel tablets ARE X86 if they have the Atoms in them. That means the desktop version of Windows 8, even if it's a cut-down version like the Starter editions of Vista and 7.
 
If they wanna succeed they might wanna reduce that 32 number to single digits. They need to make everyone say "This is my X Windows 8 tablet" not "This is my B, G, H, J, K, P , Z , T, Y Windows 8 tablet." They need to make it stand out. Windows 8 is an excellent OS and it should have hardware that gives it recognition. People should come off and look at a tablet and be able to tell it's Windows 8 without seeing it on. That's a front that Apple will continue to beat its competitors on.

It's best to focus your resources on a handful than THAT many. Plus if a customer is to purchase tablet #27 and it sucks in terms of battery life and all that then it's be obvious the chances of said customer recommending a Windows 8 tablet to their friends and family will be very very low. I understand there's many manufacturers but they should at least only be releasing one or two each and focus on those to make a product that is of highest quality and performance. I'm all for options but too many options can be bad.
 
I WELCOME x86 tablets, many of us got a bunch of old software games that could probably put into use again on a mobile device like tablet.

and I hope they get rid of the adapter requirements for at least USB/SD card/HDI connection, sucks to have those thing for tablet.
 
apple uses intel's components...it's not going to happen...for each windows table that sell, ten ipads with intel hardware are also sold...this claim is very hypo-critic
 
[citation][nom]Tomfreak[/nom]I WELCOME x86 tablets, many of us got a bunch of old software games that could probably put into use again on a mobile device like tablet[/citation]

Like what? There is a Windows 7 tablet available today, if I gave it to you, what software would you run and how would it be better than running it on your PC?
 
[citation][nom]john_4[/nom]With what, Windows 8 tiles that look like crap. Good luck Wintel.[/citation]
... agree... intel atom is crap without a good GPU... then better a AMD APU... and windows 8 Metro[sexual] UI sux soOoOo baaaaad.... and intel? Behave... apple could sue because of macbook air copying... and go all ARM or even AMD for the desktops and laptops...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-apple-llano-cpu-macbook,14793.html
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/04/16/apple_in_advanced_discussions_to_adopt_amd_chips.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Project-Denver-ARM-MacBook-Cortex-A15-Tri-Gate,12711.html
... some articles to fortify my point...
 
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