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Ruff quit hating. Just because you find it morally wrong don't make it so. And by your logic while they might be wrong biologically their helping us more then you are by being straight. This world is already overpopulated. Kids in desperate need of adoptions (o let me guess you'd rather have the kids get beat, molested in foster homes then in a loving house hold with two dads). Um. Seems like they could help in that department if they chose to.
Also explain to me how it is any way morally wrong, and I'll laugh as I tear apart your reason which probably fits in somewhere with religion. O this could be such a good time.
I'm not gay, and don't really know many gay people. But I still think they have every right to live how they want to live without being questioned, insulted, etc by the likes of people like ruff.
Also explain to me how it is any way morally wrong, and I'll laugh as I tear apart your reason which probably fits in somewhere with religion. O this could be such a good time.
I'm not gay, and don't really know many gay people. But I still think they have every right to live how they want to live without being questioned, insulted, etc by the likes of people like ruff.
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I still don't see what the fuss is about, i'm not about to advertise myself as being transgendered on my live account, i have female on my account and thats all people need to know, it's when people give me shit about "not really being a girl" and start being transphobic and prejudiced for no reason what so ever which really pisses me off, but if people want to blow their own trumpets then more power to them.
i'm not a trumpet blowing person *T0000t!!....who did that?* (Blushes)
i'm not a trumpet blowing person *T0000t!!....who did that?* (Blushes)
I dunno...it's kinda offensive to me that somebody would actually take a ding dong in their hoo hoo
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Absolutely unbelievable how far we've sunk as a society... what's black is white, what's right is wrong... even the most obvious of problems is considered normal, and those who label the problem a problem are "haters" whose comments must be removed.
Unbelievable, and sad.
Morality aside, those struggling with same-sex attraction need unconditional love, but not codification (condoning what they're doing). They need help. And when we codify, we solidify in them the belief that they are quite normal and don't need help, so they'll never get it.
Those of you who agree, please vote positively for this and my previous comment so that they both appear again. I've got to believe that there are more people who still understand this so-simple concept than those who do not.
Again, has nothing to do with hate, has to do with love for those who are genuinely sick.
Unbelievable, and sad.
Morality aside, those struggling with same-sex attraction need unconditional love, but not codification (condoning what they're doing). They need help. And when we codify, we solidify in them the belief that they are quite normal and don't need help, so they'll never get it.
Those of you who agree, please vote positively for this and my previous comment so that they both appear again. I've got to believe that there are more people who still understand this so-simple concept than those who do not.
Again, has nothing to do with hate, has to do with love for those who are genuinely sick.
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[citation][nom]ruffhouseutah[/nom]Absolutely unbelievable how far we've sunk as a society... what's black is white, what's right is wrong... even the most obvious of problems is considered normal, and those who label the problem a problem are "haters" whose comments must be removed.Unbelievable, and sad.Morality aside, those struggling with same-sex attraction need unconditional love, but not codification (condoning what they're doing). They need help. And when we codify, we solidify in them the belief that they are quite normal and don't need help, so they'll never get it. Those of you who agree, please vote positively for this and my previous comment so that they both appear again. I've got to believe that there are more people who still understand this so-simple concept than those who do not.Again, has nothing to do with hate, has to do with love for those who are genuinely sick.[/citation]
Ruff, you're the one who is sick. Not I.
Ruff, you're the one who is sick. Not I.
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[citation][nom]ruff said it[/nom]I dunno...it's kinda offensive to me that somebody would actually take a ding dong in their hoo hoo[/citation]
Hahaha reminds me of that South Park episode...
Hahaha reminds me of that South Park episode...
[citation][nom]ruffhouseutah[/nom]Absolutely unbelievable how far we've sunk as a society... what's black is white, what's right is wrong... even the most obvious of problems is considered normal, and those who label the problem a problem are "haters" whose comments must be removed.Unbelievable, and sad.Morality aside, those struggling with same-sex attraction need unconditional love, but not codification (condoning what they're doing). They need help. And when we codify, we solidify in them the belief that they are quite normal and don't need help, so they'll never get it. Those of you who agree, please vote positively for this and my previous comment so that they both appear again. I've got to believe that there are more people who still understand this so-simple concept than those who do not.Again, has nothing to do with hate, has to do with love for those who are genuinely sick.[/citation]
Oh boy. Lunatic on the thread.
First off, I'm not "struggling with same-sex attraction" I'm enjoying it just as those who are straight enjoy their opposite-sex attractions.
I was born gay, just as others have been born straight (or bi, etc).
Science supports this and says that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay.
The APA states that “reparative therapy” programs do not work at all and in most cases are psychologically harmful (in some cases even leading to suicide).
Nothing you have stated has any basis in facts or reality.
Oh boy. Lunatic on the thread.
First off, I'm not "struggling with same-sex attraction" I'm enjoying it just as those who are straight enjoy their opposite-sex attractions.
I was born gay, just as others have been born straight (or bi, etc).
Science supports this and says that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay.
The APA states that “reparative therapy” programs do not work at all and in most cases are psychologically harmful (in some cases even leading to suicide).
Nothing you have stated has any basis in facts or reality.
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In the interest of free speech I support both people who want to proclaim their sexuality whenever and where ever they are... But my question is why the HELL does anyone need to know your sexual orientation on a friggin video game!? play the game or go home er um log off... Are you people hooking up after meeting on xbox live? OMFG go outside and talk to people face to face!
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Oh sorry by both I meant both straight and gay (and whatever other side of the issue youre on). I'm personally not gay and thing that guys are the ugliest thing in the world naked but if its your cup of tea well then more power to you. Im a libertarian 😉
I don't think Ruff is a hater as such, simply one of those who fervently believes that same-sex attraction is wrong. From a "natural world" science perspective this belief is understandable, after all animals can not procreate from a same sex union.
However attempting to compare evolved human behavoiur with animal behaviour is the flaw. Sex in the modern world is not simply for the purposes of procreation it is also for enjoyment.
Instead of berating Ruff you should feel the deepest sympathy for those in this minority group of close minded backward individuals. They require our unconditional love not of course our codification of their skewed world views.
However attempting to compare evolved human behavoiur with animal behaviour is the flaw. Sex in the modern world is not simply for the purposes of procreation it is also for enjoyment.
Instead of berating Ruff you should feel the deepest sympathy for those in this minority group of close minded backward individuals. They require our unconditional love not of course our codification of their skewed world views.
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ravewulf, indeed you do struggle with same-sex attraction, you've just given in to it wholeheartedly.
You were not born gay any more than a person who has a temper was born angry.
Science does not support anyone being born gay, the only two scientists who tried to put that forth have been completely debunked.
Yes, there is a lot wrong with being gay, and it so painfully and biologically obvious that I don't need to detail it for you.
The APA has been under tremendous pressure from homosexual activists for decades, and they took homosexuality off their list of abnormailities a long time ago, which proves absolutely nothing.
I know of several gays that have successfully turned straight, though I have heard of several that have committed suicide, which is indeed a tragedy. But that does not change the fact that SSA is a sickness that needs help.
Yes, everything I have said has basis in facts and reality. In fact, the assertions you are making are the ones that are incorrect on many levels.
SSA is not normal or healthy, even though it is common, affecting roughly 3% of the population.
You need help, just like an alcoholic, porn addict, or smoker. I don't hate you, but I do feel terrible that you have come to believe that your tendencies are normal and even healthy, so that you will not willingly seek the help that you need to live a truly healthy and normal life.
Back on topic, MicroSoft is just aiding in the ruse that SSA is normal and healthy, which is a terrible, and terribly common, mistake.
You were not born gay any more than a person who has a temper was born angry.
Science does not support anyone being born gay, the only two scientists who tried to put that forth have been completely debunked.
Yes, there is a lot wrong with being gay, and it so painfully and biologically obvious that I don't need to detail it for you.
The APA has been under tremendous pressure from homosexual activists for decades, and they took homosexuality off their list of abnormailities a long time ago, which proves absolutely nothing.
I know of several gays that have successfully turned straight, though I have heard of several that have committed suicide, which is indeed a tragedy. But that does not change the fact that SSA is a sickness that needs help.
Yes, everything I have said has basis in facts and reality. In fact, the assertions you are making are the ones that are incorrect on many levels.
SSA is not normal or healthy, even though it is common, affecting roughly 3% of the population.
You need help, just like an alcoholic, porn addict, or smoker. I don't hate you, but I do feel terrible that you have come to believe that your tendencies are normal and even healthy, so that you will not willingly seek the help that you need to live a truly healthy and normal life.
Back on topic, MicroSoft is just aiding in the ruse that SSA is normal and healthy, which is a terrible, and terribly common, mistake.
[citation][nom]redux fountain[/nom]MS pr: We here at Microsoft want to send a clear message that our philosophy as a company is one of tolerance and understanding; to not shun others for simply being different, and to be able to foster such a community with Xbox live.Reporter: But still no fatties?MS pr: Still no fatties.[/citation]
Reporter 2: What about cripples? Will they be required to have the ability to stand, twist, reach and lift up to 50 lbs?
Reporter 2: What about cripples? Will they be required to have the ability to stand, twist, reach and lift up to 50 lbs?
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[citation][nom]redux fountain[/nom]MS pr: We here at Microsoft want to send a clear message that our philosophy as a company is one of tolerance and understanding; to not shun others for simply being different, and to be able to foster such a community with Xbox live.Reporter: But still no fatties?MS pr: Still no fatties.[/citation]
That almost made me laugh. =)
I've never seen the big deal on sexuality myself. Sure I'll make a gay joke, but I'll also make a black joke, and you don't see me burning crosses.
Plus, I love lesbians and bisexual woman into threesomes. The world does not have enough of them.
That almost made me laugh. =)
I've never seen the big deal on sexuality myself. Sure I'll make a gay joke, but I'll also make a black joke, and you don't see me burning crosses.
Plus, I love lesbians and bisexual woman into threesomes. The world does not have enough of them.
Someone who is straight cannot really see or feel how it would be to be gay, just as a gay person could not really fully understand the feeling of being straight. It is simply because we are immersed in our own particular persuasion. Bisexuals may be the most blessed of all, for they seem to be blind of the concept of gender, and have the ability to appreciate and desire potentially anyone as a mate. Being gay is a trait just as natural as being blonde; it would be obvious if it were faked. People should grow up and accept that fact. It's sad that most of society represses such natural expressions of attraction, resulting in unnecessary fear, confusion, humiliation, violence, etc. After all, if the world is so over-populated then maybe fully embracing those who are gay would be a good thing! kudos to MS for bringing us one tiny step closer to the era when same-sex couples will raise no more eye-brows than mixed-race couples.
Some people have questioned the need for these new personal descriptors. Why do we even allow identification as male or female? When you are playing a game, you really don't care about their gender or whether they are just a very talented monkey! But such details embellish the experience, and allows players to express their personality. Plus, as mentioned above, society will slowly get a grip on and be more comfortable with the truth that a significant portion of the population is not exactly the same as they are. And this world could use a lot less stress.
Some people have questioned the need for these new personal descriptors. Why do we even allow identification as male or female? When you are playing a game, you really don't care about their gender or whether they are just a very talented monkey! But such details embellish the experience, and allows players to express their personality. Plus, as mentioned above, society will slowly get a grip on and be more comfortable with the truth that a significant portion of the population is not exactly the same as they are. And this world could use a lot less stress.
@ruffhouseutah
And once again, everything you have stated is an outright lie. I'm beginning to suspect that you are just another troll.
"Science does not support anyone being born gay, the only two scientists who tried to put that forth have been completely debunked."
(More or less the exact opposite is true)
“Yes, there is a lot wrong with being gay, and it so painfully and biologically obvious that I don't need to detail it for you.”
(While true that same sex couples cannot make children in the same way, they can still have sex for pleasure and intimacy. There is still adoption and artificial insemination as well. Also, as you seem to obsess about the sex part, m/f couples also engage in anal sex. Maybe it isn’t as common, but it does happen quite a lot)
“The APA has been under tremendous pressure from homosexual activists for decades, and they took homosexuality off their list of abnormailities a long time ago, which proves absolutely nothing.”
(They changed this because they actually bothered to investigate and put REAL DATA to use in what they thought of those who are gay)
“I know of several gays that have successfully turned straight (FYI either that statement is a lie, or they are lying to you) , though I have heard of several that have committed suicide, which is indeed a tragedy. But that does not change the fact that SSA is a sickness that needs help.”
(Practically a line directly from the mouths of the CWfA or Focus on the Family, both of which are extreme conservative propaganda machines, not scientific sources)
“Yes, everything I have said has basis in facts and reality. In fact, the assertions you are making are the ones that are incorrect on many levels.”
(Then why do actual, credible scientists, psychologists, and doctors agree with me? Could it be because I'm right and you are wrong? /sarcasm)
“SSA is not normal or healthy, even though it is common, affecting roughly 3% of the population.”
(Wild animals do it, domesticated animals do it, civilized animals (aka humans) do it. Completely normal. As to safety, any type of sex is risky if proper precautions are not taken, regardless if it is f/f, m/m or m/f. Actual population estimates are at 10%+ and possibly up to 35%)
“You need help, just like an alcoholic, porn addict, or smoker. I don't hate you, but I do feel terrible that you have come to believe that your tendencies are normal and even healthy, so that you will not willingly seek the help that you need to live a truly healthy and normal life.”
(Again, complete BS. All REAL scientists, psychologists, and doctors are against every single one of your points. I live a perfectly healthy life, my doctor is well aware that I am gay and has no problems with it. He even went out of his way to tell me NOT to go to any reparative therapy nut jobs, not that I hadn’t already had the common sense not to go to them or the information that they are all created and run by crackpots)
Sorry to everyone else for such a long post (this guy was asking for it though), I tried to cut it down by using quotes and italics instead of the box quotes feature.
And once again, everything you have stated is an outright lie. I'm beginning to suspect that you are just another troll.
"Science does not support anyone being born gay, the only two scientists who tried to put that forth have been completely debunked."
(More or less the exact opposite is true)
“Yes, there is a lot wrong with being gay, and it so painfully and biologically obvious that I don't need to detail it for you.”
(While true that same sex couples cannot make children in the same way, they can still have sex for pleasure and intimacy. There is still adoption and artificial insemination as well. Also, as you seem to obsess about the sex part, m/f couples also engage in anal sex. Maybe it isn’t as common, but it does happen quite a lot)
“The APA has been under tremendous pressure from homosexual activists for decades, and they took homosexuality off their list of abnormailities a long time ago, which proves absolutely nothing.”
(They changed this because they actually bothered to investigate and put REAL DATA to use in what they thought of those who are gay)
“I know of several gays that have successfully turned straight (FYI either that statement is a lie, or they are lying to you) , though I have heard of several that have committed suicide, which is indeed a tragedy. But that does not change the fact that SSA is a sickness that needs help.”
(Practically a line directly from the mouths of the CWfA or Focus on the Family, both of which are extreme conservative propaganda machines, not scientific sources)
“Yes, everything I have said has basis in facts and reality. In fact, the assertions you are making are the ones that are incorrect on many levels.”
(Then why do actual, credible scientists, psychologists, and doctors agree with me? Could it be because I'm right and you are wrong? /sarcasm)
“SSA is not normal or healthy, even though it is common, affecting roughly 3% of the population.”
(Wild animals do it, domesticated animals do it, civilized animals (aka humans) do it. Completely normal. As to safety, any type of sex is risky if proper precautions are not taken, regardless if it is f/f, m/m or m/f. Actual population estimates are at 10%+ and possibly up to 35%)
“You need help, just like an alcoholic, porn addict, or smoker. I don't hate you, but I do feel terrible that you have come to believe that your tendencies are normal and even healthy, so that you will not willingly seek the help that you need to live a truly healthy and normal life.”
(Again, complete BS. All REAL scientists, psychologists, and doctors are against every single one of your points. I live a perfectly healthy life, my doctor is well aware that I am gay and has no problems with it. He even went out of his way to tell me NOT to go to any reparative therapy nut jobs, not that I hadn’t already had the common sense not to go to them or the information that they are all created and run by crackpots)
Sorry to everyone else for such a long post (this guy was asking for it though), I tried to cut it down by using quotes and italics instead of the box quotes feature.
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