Arguments regarding Apple are all too often misunderstood by fanboys. Many fanboys talk about Apple's success in financial terms such as revenue, profit, market cap of stock, etc. Great, that isn't really the point of trying to put Apple in the rightful place in the world of technology. People who the greatness of Apple such as myself have a fundamental problem in how the run the business, thus refuse to support Apple regardless of their success. All companies are profited oriented and can be somewhat proprietary in nature, but Apple may be number one in both of the aforementioned qualities. Simple tech people with little need for much functionality will never know what they are missing by an Apple product nor do they probably care too much that they overpay verses the competition because the life cycle of the product they by may be several years. People more in tech and want extrapolate all possible fundamental uses of a device will not likely buy an Apple product as in general lack many features that competitors have. In addition, buying a new device on an every 6 month cycle would make Apple seem like a very expensive option, so basically their products are a poor value relative to others. To really get into it more, Apple is given way to much credit for being innovated. They have been innovative for 2 decades. MP3 players were around long before the iPod. I loved my old iRiver and Creative Labs from about 10 years ago (both had FM radio, speaker recording, line-in recording, etc.). They were easy to use and feature rich. Problem is that financially they can't compete with Apple, so that battle is lost even though one would get more for less money with those other makers. Tablets existed before the iPad. It's just that nobody cared until Apple released one. I'ts like a religion where so many followers just believe without questioning. At best, Apple's hardware is just above average and overpriced. They have already fallen behind significantly in the mobile ware. Dual core 1ghz chips are shipping in 3 weeks in the U.S. and 1.2Ghz chips will soon follow well before the iPhone 5 is released. By the time of that release, we will only be several months away possibly from a 3D Display with a Quad Core on the nVdia Tegra 3. Not too mention, Apple and their well-documented antenna problem. Any other maker would have been crushed and most likely would have had to pony up on a recall. Apple just says, "You're holding it wrong. Buy a case." Really! I hate cases. They make my phone thicker in my pocket. I don't even carry a wallet or money clip - straight money in cards in my pocket. Apple also believes in censorship. Negative comments about products on their message board are deleted. No other company that I'm aware in the country would do something like that. There is a fundamental problem with that for me. In the end, people who are very informed and need a lot of functionality will still away from Apple in general. I just can't support a company who is so anti-consumer.