Mozilla Attacks IE9's Marketing As Nonsense

[mayne92]

[citation][nom]edilee[/nom]FF, IE, and Chrome all have areas that the other 2 are better in so each can bash the other 2. I use IE mainly purely because it is faster for all the oodles of web pages I go to...yes I have tested this over and over and I don't care what anyone says...Chrome takes 10 seconds to load, FF takes 15 seconds to load, and IE loads in 2 seconds....this is just the openiing of the browser and this time frames have been the same since I have tested them. Page loading is about the same across all browsers. IE handles 90% of Farmville content (not a big factor) better than FF and Chrome. Chrome is less laggy while doing things on your farm and FF also performs better than IE in this specific test...in all other FV areas IE works better. I just used FV as an example and since it is poorly written software that after many years is stillin beta...you see what I mean.I have found people's browser of choice depends mostly on which one has a UI more suited to their needs this does not have any performance implications. Lots of folks will also just use whatever is different from Microsoft's browser...people like to be different and it doesn't matter if what they are using is better or not but they will insist it is.Long story short..download all 4 (Opera also) and use whatever one suits your needs for what you will be doing...they all have good points.[/citation]
So you back up your better browser experience with a Flash/Shockwave based game 'Farmville'? lol. Well if you say so in your 'tests'...then it must be. lol

 

[AMD_pitbull]

[citation][nom]omnimodis78[/nom]I've been using Firefox beta since it's 5th release, or something like that - and I swear to you it has only crashed once, and that was after tried to assign the temporary folder it uses to a secondary drive. So, if your Firefox crashes every 20 minutes, it's absolutely your problem.[/citation]
Thank you Jobs, is he browsing it wrong?

 

[Haserath]

We tend to think that IE9 is a big step forward and Firefox is a giant leap for Mozilla.

Nice word choice. Reminds me of the moon landing.

I dislike IE, because IE is always behind every other browser in support... when your browser comes with the OS everyone uses, you don't have to update it at the speed of your competitors.

 

[beayn]

[citation][nom]mayne92[/nom]So you back up your better browser experience with a Flash/Shockwave based game 'Farmville'? lol. Well if you say so in your 'tests'...then it must be. lol[/citation]

No, he's saying in his real world tests, IE performs better for him. That was the point of his whole message. "Testing" your browser on synthetic benchmarks doesn't mean it will perform best on all the sites you or your family go to.

Would you buy a car based on its handling inside a closed and perfectly smooth track designed specifically for that car, or would you take it out for a test drive in areas and on roads that you are used to?

 

[megamanx00]

It's like one can do sin faster and the other does cos faster. What will matter in the end is what developers make that users like and which browser best supports that.

 

[jimmysmitty]

[citation][nom]AndrewMcInally[/nom]IE is junk and has always been junk. Anyone who uses it probably doesn't know what a web browser is. the Internet is just that little E symbol on the task bar, you know that thing when you click on the flag on the bottom left? Yeah that one.[/citation]

And anyone who doesn't actually try everything and come up with an opinion is blind and bitter.

IE has had problems but in reality, IE9 is really good. Of course too many people are too bitter to see that or even try it out but to me thats their loss. If you don't want decent competition so that we have better browsers, go to China.

As for Mozilla, again I think they are scared. Why bash a competitor if you know your product is better? Maybe FF4 wont be as great as they want it to be. I am using both IE9 and FF4 and I gotta say, IE9 is faster.

 

[Camikazi]

[citation][nom]caeden[/nom]html5 test.com resultsChrome (current update) 288FF 3.6.13 (latest release) 155IE9 Beta 130ya... looks like both ie and FF are blowing smoke on next gen support, and even Chrome only got 288 of 400. Time to go back to the drawing board.[/citation]
Firefox 4 = 255

 

[lashton]

[citation][nom]fouch[/nom]Love Chrome, runs quite, not hogging tons of resources. FF is the worst for resource hogging by far. IE is a joke. MS is finally releasing a browser with CSS3 support, and we're all supposed to cheer? Where the hell was the support in IE 8? Chrome takes like 5 seconds to install, and is extremely versatile. I don't need anything else. Plus I love the sync, everywhere i go I get the same experience.[/citation]
Im using IE because its more secure than the other 2 and its just works

 

[IzzyCraft]

All browser developers recommend users to install the most up to date GPU drivers when using the GPU acceleration feature in the browser. Both IE9 RC and Chrome also had several crashes reported because of outdated drivers.

Tell that to ATI some users choose not to update to certain driver numbers because ATI is plagued with certain cards not liking certain drivers along with certain games. Also monzilla is the only one that keep telling it's users if there is a problem it's not our fault it's yours update your drivers.

 

[cookoy]

still waiting for ie9 and ff4 final release. in the meantime, opera just works fine with me.

 

[Unperson]

"As browser user,"?

Corrected: As a browser user,

Personally, I get irritated when I see responses that correct spelling or grammar is posts. I think that everyone makes mistakes once and a while so riding them for the occasional flub is unnecessary, but the quality of writing on Tom's lately has become disconcerting. From errors such as the one noted above and title errors (i.e., "Users Complain Abount Buggy Windows 7 SP1") to other spelling, grammar, and formatting inconsistencies, the reading experience on this site is really starting to wane.

Sorry to be critical. Just throwing my 2p on the table.

 

[Unperson]

/shoot self in foot

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Error: My own capacity for error: ..I see responses that correct spelling or grammar is posts.

Corrected: ..I see responses that correct spelling or grammar in posts.
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Error: "makes mistakes once and a while"

Correction: "makes mistakes once in a while"
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At least I made corrections. 😉

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[philologos]

What is with all the invective?

We're talking about internet browsers, right? Use whatever you like.

 

[kartu]

[citation][nom]caeden[/nom]html5 test.com resultsChrome (current update) 288FF 3.6.13 (latest release) 155IE9 Beta 130ya... looks like both ie and FF are blowing smoke on next gen support, and even Chrome only got 288 of 400. Time to go back to the drawing board.[/citation]

Opera 234 + 7
http/html5test.com/

 

[nomnom9608]

just shut up and use what browser you are happy with, who the f cares which is better...

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]IzzyCraft[/nom]Tell that to ATI some users choose not to update to certain driver numbers because ATI is plagued with certain cards not liking certain drivers along with certain games. Also monzilla is the only one that keep telling it's users if there is a problem it's not our fault it's yours update your drivers.[/citation]
Since when is mozilla saying that every problem people have with ff4 is due to drivers? They stated that some users are experiencing issues with the GPU accelerated part of the browser due to driver issues. Both Microsoft and Google also made that statement. If they were so intended on not fixing the errors on it, ff4 would have already been launched as stable.

 

[coldtortilla]

If I could get windows 7 to work on my old computer properly I would use IE9, for my daily browser, but when in xp I prefer chrome for most tasks

 

[randomizer]

Im using IE because its more secure than the other 2 and its just works

I hope you're using IE9, because nothing earlier than that "just works" without web developers having to use arcane hacks to make things work.

 

[Guest]

@lashton

define more secure..........personally nothing more secure then noscript and adblock, and it speeds up ur web browsing to no end not having them pesky ads and such likes loading up

the majority of FF comes from extensions and plugin issues, i have a slew of FF version running from 3.6 through to minefield 4.0bp13 and they run stable, the single best selling point of FF for me is portable FF, a browser on a thumbstick that has all my bookmarks that i can run from any machine that dont leave behind any cookies or history or files on the machine, it's a godsend for browsing at work

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]FFportable[/nom]@lashtondefine more secure..........personally nothing more secure then noscript and adblock, and it speeds up ur web browsing to no end not having them pesky ads and such likes loading upthe majority of FF comes from extensions and plugin issues, i have a slew of FF version running from 3.6 through to minefield 4.0bp13 and they run stable, the single best selling point of FF for me is portable FF, a browser on a thumbstick that has all my bookmarks that i can run from any machine that dont leave behind any cookies or history or files on the machine, it's a godsend for browsing at work[/citation]


1) Ad Block is known to add several security holes. Noscript is a big improvement though.

2) Opera has had a portable version way longer than Firefox. So don't give Firefox the compliment here.