Mozilla Responds: Market Share? What Market Share?

[Guest]

Only thing the statistics show is the number of people using noscript is going up. I use firefox since it came out, but with noscript, I doubt my browsing is counted by the watchers. If you do not run their script, are you actually counted?

 

[lordstormdragon]

[citation][nom]Thunderfox[/nom]The problem isn't just how much memory it uses, it's the fact it doesn't seem to do a good job of managing it even for its own purposes. FF has traditionally kept huge amounts of stuff cached in memory, and then still had to resort to the disc cache when it wanted to store more. This can result in huge pauses for disc swapping even when you only have a few tabs open, because everything you've done in your browsing session is still in memory. How much of this is design and how much is memory leaks, I don't know. FF7 finally does seem to have made some improvement, but how much I don't know yet as I haven't really stressed it yet. Flash crashes aren't straightforward crashes, they are some sort of race condition where FF takes up your whole CPU and becomes unresponsive because it is trying to process something Flash related, forcing you to kill the program. I know that in at least on case that I could reproduce repeatedly, the Flashblock addon was the cause of this, as it did not happen with it disabled, so that may account for the discrepancy in user experience with regard to flash - some people are blocking it, some aren't.[/citation]

Use MemoryFox then. A quick Google search should have yielded this information for you. If you want to control your memory in Firefox, use the tool developed to do just that.

I too had issues with Firefox's memory use, not how much it uses (in CG, 500MB is a speck of RAM) but that it didn't release RAM as efficiently as CometBird. Problem solved, with MemoryFox.

 

[slicedtoad]

there's nothing wrong with ff, i just like chrome better.

 

[Azn Cracker]

I use firefox, but it keeps on crashing...

 

[xerroz]

Chrome is only getting bigger because google pays 99.9% of software companies to have chrome in their installers. Most people just click "next next next" so chrome is always installed but dont actually use it. They use a real browser, they use Firefox. Besides, who would want another way for google to steal your private information anyway, Google is enough, Google and Google+ is a bit much for some, why add more ways for google to make a profit off of you so they can monopolize the market?

 

[dfusco]

[citation][nom]zebassist230[/nom]What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.[/citation]

LOL! Dude please ask your physician about upping your meds.

 

[Noworldorder]

chrome will never control me

 

[drapacioli]

Everybody here is aware this is USAGE statistics and not DOWNLOAD statistics, right? It doesn't matter if all are on your computer, you will be logged on a web page based on which browser you are using.

 

[CaedenV]

[citation][nom]Camikazi[/nom]Never had FF crash from Flash here either, always wondered what other people are doing when this happens, as for RAM, I have 15 tabs open 3 using Flash and FF is using 500MB of RAM, with container using 30MB, not bad and again I wonder what you are doing that is causing these problems cause I have yet to see them.[/citation]
I had this problem for quite a while. Turned out that I was running a bad install of flash. Reinstalling it fixed the problem. Had a similar problem with Java, downloaded the newer 64bit version and fixed!
All the same, I switched to Chrome before I figured out how to fix it, and I am hooked. FF may be more innovative and come up with the good ideas, but chrome knows how to get it done faster and better. (Though FF7 and IE10 are looking mighty tempting right about now)

Cant wait for FFX, it was my favorite story of any game

 

[eddieroolz]

So after years of trying to get any market share it can through all possible means, it now pretends it was never important. Haha.

 

[MasterMace]

These people complaining about Firefox being a memory hog: I'm lost.

I have 9 tabs open: Tomshardware, this link, Battlefield 3's battlelog, CNN, Yahoo, Ebay, Hotmail, Google, and Youtube, using Firefox, and I'm at 283MB.

That's a far cry from your google fanboy yelps of half a gig on 3 tabs.

 

[maddad]

Firefox runs great on my home built PC and my Toshiba laptop; no crashes at all. I tried Chrome, Opera, and IE9, still prefer the fox. Amazed that so many people are having trouble with it. I use very few addons though so it could be something external to the browser. I do play a lot of flash based games, and hard problems with those in FF3 but not really since then.

 

[watcha]

[citation][nom]MasterMace[/nom]These people complaining about Firefox being a memory hog: I'm lost.I have 9 tabs open: Tomshardware, this link, Battlefield 3's battlelog, CNN, Yahoo, Ebay, Hotmail, Google, and Youtube, using Firefox, and I'm at 283MB.That's a far cry from your google fanboy yelps of half a gig on 3 tabs.[/citation]

I've never understood why people just invent numbers and believe it proves anything. For accuracy's sake, I opened up the exact same 9 sites on Google Chrome. It's now using 261mb of memory.

'That's a far cry from your google fanboy yelps of half a gig on 3 tabs'

;-)

 

[DSpider]

So true...

 

[Guest]

@Watcha I'm pretty sure he's referring to a claim that FIREFOX uses half a gig on 3 tabs, not making a counterclaim that chrome does.

Anyways, I've tried both and I still lean most towards firefox. Part of it might just be force of habit but I just never got used to chrome. I don't go out of my way to check out system specs or anything so as long as it works, I have no qualms.

 

[DSpider]

Exactly. I don't understand what's the issue with RAM these days. RAM is cheap.

Firefox works fine on the cheapest 2 GB DDR3 module (1333 MHz). Using Arch Linux with Openbox and "top" says Firefox is using 55% memory. I wouldn't start a virtual machine while using it, but on 4 GB+ I probably could. Can't be bothered right now to open as many (and as diverse) tabs in Chromium.

 

[ivyanev]

I dont care about market share.I care about usability and features ,and people should too.