MPAA: Congress Should Encourage 3 Strikes

[hellwig]

Uh, has the MPAA never heard of encryption? Back in college when I still downloaded things, I remember most of them were in secure zip or rar files. This makes it nearly impossible for ISPs to filter traffic.

I'm not trying to support illegal downloading, but I don't think the MPAA should be trying to enforce BS policies on neutral third parties just because they found it ineffective to go directly after the criminals.

We can't stop rape simply by arresting and trying every rapist in a court of law, so we're going to ask congress to force women to stay inside their homes 24/7 to reduce the ability for rapists to commit their crime.

 

[Guest]

"I know this may be hard for some of you youngsters, but look back a few years to analog recordings. It was incredibly easy to copy a cassette or VHS tape and give it to a couple friends. Everybody knew this, even the recording industries, and nobody really cared enough to do something about it."

Incorrect a tax was applied to all blank tape to cover copying. Go look it up. They cared, they lobbied to get their cut, they got it.

Every blank tape you bought,you payed a 'pirating tax' on regardless if you recorded original content(thus did not pirate) or not.

 

[gorehound]

I have been reading news like this story for a while now and am getting more and more angry.We are getting the shaft by these hjuge media comapanies so I am now on a total boycott of all MPAA,RIAA and their stooge studios/labels/artists.none will ever see a dollar out of me again.That is what you get for treating me like I am guilty of something.That is what you get for trying to take away my rights and the rights of others.That is what you get for suing people for millions of dollars for some stupid mainstream music.
Here is my thing and maybe we can get a lot more to do it.

1.no more buying of any new movies from any mpaa and stooges.NOTE: you can find things used and t hat way at least they won't get your money
2.support indie film and studios
3.no music ever form riaa and their stogges
4.buy local artists and indie stuff
5.soon we may need to put up an online petition.
Moves like these is going to piss off millions of folks not just a few wackos.Everyone who is intelligent should be feeling the heat as big brother becomes more and more of a reality.A real stupid idea is in the works by these greedbags and it will not be good.
Hurt Hollywood and Corporate Music..............STOP BUYING !!!!

Also I am not a downloader.I work in a videostore as my friends right hand man for 16 years now.I have no need to ever download a film.And I never listen to mainstream music.I play in Maine's oldest punk rock band and listen to my music collection which I have been buying music since the 1960's.I have no need to download music either.I am a concerned citizen of the USA.

 

[mac_angel]

kinda funny. They are complaining about how much money they are loosing to pirating. I wonder how much they are loosing to stupid lawyers and stupid lawsuits.

 

[ravewulf]

@factoryfast

By definition net neutrality means that all traffic is treated neutrally. The whole purpose of it is so no one traffic can be regulated, filtered or treated differently in any way than other types of traffic. It is not a government conspiracy to enforce filtering across the board (some may try to treat it that way, but that is not its purpose and not what it is by definition).

When corporations go unregulated they can establish virtual area based monopolies (like what we have now in many areas) and force filtering upon their customers who have no other ISP choices. All the ISPs could also decide together that they want to filter things AND the MPAA and others can sue and bribe them into filtering anyway.

Establishing government enforced regulation that no type of traffic can be treated differently than any other type of traffic would solve that problem. That is what net neutrality is for.

 

[Guest]

What was the ruling before not too long ago? A supreme court justice or someone told the RIAA to change its business practice to meet today's demand...Apple and [I can't remember the other company] are very successful at selling music. Who wants to go to the store to buy a CD when you can download music (legit or not) off the internet and burn to your own CD?

Though the fact that the RIAA failed at suing so many individuals that were not pirates (HELL, THEY EVEN SUED A DEAD PERSON! HAHAHA)...I'm curious as to what is going to happen that will break this pirating right up!?!? Something, someday...time will tell...

I had so many laughs reading through these posts! I do agree though, many movies today are original and lame! They come out with crap that the critics love! The horror films are not what they used to be! Endings for alot of movies always end with ability for a sequal! Who the hell wants to watch a movie that ends shitty? I personally don't want to guess whether a movie will become 5 sequals because the financial return was great for the movie industry! They make movies from great books that make the books look bad! They make movies from comics that DO NOT depict the comic at all! (for the most part)...movies again are just not what they used to be! The Internet will become the ultimate mainstream for sending and receiving content...I would pay 7 dollars to watch a newly release movie from home streamed from the internet than go to the movies on their own convenient time to watch it. (

 

[Guest]

It's not that recent movies are crap... No sir... It's those damn pirates downloading "cammed" movies...

In light of the recent tragedy in our country, had it happened at a lobbying firm instead of Ft. Hood, would anybody have cared?

 

[mayne92]

What the hell? No notification that your post would be cut short? Above it cut me off as I said "...than go to the movies on their own convenient time to watch it. (

 

[mayne92]

What the hell? No notification that your post would be cut short? Above it cut me off as I said "...than go to the movies on their own convenient time to watch it.

 

[mayne92]

WTF it cuts my posts off!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now it looks like I'm triple posting!!!!!!!!! ARGHHHH

 

[rockyjohn]

Gee, all this anger at the companies who are the victims and not a word about the thieves forcing the companies to try to protect their rights.

 

[anamaniac]

3 strikes doesn't seem too bad. However, after the 3rd strike, how about a short net ban? Permanent removal is going too far in todays culture (can be considered worse than removing a drivers license, even though they tend to let drunks back on the road).

Plus, I use encrypted data when torrenting... if they know what I'm moving, then I have serious issues with them. They only know I move a lot of info, not what it is... I would rather keep it that way.

 

[Hilarion]

The MPAA and RIAA should be stopped from trying to suborn the government and the taxpayers dollars in their attempt to salvage their dinosauric (read "should be extinct") business model. They are trying to shift the cost burden of civil enforcement to the taxpayer. We should not be forced to pay for this with our tax dollars.

 

[lvlouro]

I bet that if they could stop all piracy the incomes of the film industry wouldn't go significantly up... Even if it did it wouldn't certainly be the billions they claim are lost to piracy.
How many good movies get poor income in the box office?
Not saying piracy is right but is not going to lead to Hollywood's bankruptcy, Hell, the financial crisis we're in is probably causing more damage...

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]anamaniac[/nom]3 strikes doesn't seem too bad. However, after the 3rd strike, how about a short net ban?[/citation]
Which will get longer with time until it is permanent. You need to put your foot down and stop this in its tracks right now if you want "freedom of the Internet" to exist in 10 years' time. Chipping away at your freedoms with little compromises here and there is what has led to the FUBAR world we are in today, and it will only get worse. The Australian Government wants to censor the Internet here. You can be damn sure that if they get it implemented that the US will follow (and vice versa of course) at some point, even if it has to be done in steps instead of all at once like they want here.

You people need to actually do something about all this though. Whining on forums will not solve the problem, you'll just have to accept the consequences until the next chip in your freedom is proposed and you whine about that as well.

 

[azxcvbnm321]

There is no freedom to pirate and steal. And with freedom comes responsibility. Just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't mean it's right or moral to do it. You have the freedom to go to some guy's funeral and taunt his family, but that would be a disgusting and despicable act. Now if society stands up and ostracizes this guy, so that he can't go outside without people staring at him, and no one wants to talk to him or be his friend, that would be a very severe penalty and discourage others from doing what he did. Notice how this doesn't involve the law or any legal acts.

You people talk about freedom and want it, but won't stand up when pirates steal. You won't condemn the bad behavior in strong terms. You allow them to continue and so if there are no social consequences, then there has to be legal consequences, you've made your own bed.

People like me are putting our foot down. We've had enough of pirates destroying industry after industry. Do you notice the low number of PC games and how developers have all but given up servicing the PC gaming community? How come console games are bug free and a whole lot of effort is being put in them, but PC games are now an afterthought? If they can't make money, then there's no point to servicing that segment. Just like if someone won't pay you, you won't work for them. Finally something is being done to destroy pirating once and for all. Or at least keep it in check with harsh penalties.

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]azxcvbnm321[/nom]There is no freedom to pirate and steal.[/citation]
Nor should there be. But this just sets a precedent that will eventually extend to other things and it's the wrong way to go about dealing with the issue. For starters, there are people who receive copyright infringement notices for films they've never even seen, let alone pirated.

Would you be happy if the Constitution was amended to remove your right to bear arms to deal with armed robberies and murders? Should their be a freedom to kill or harass?

 

[brendano257]

I could torrent day and night for a year and probably cost them as much as a lawyer for a day. They need to suck it up and stop expecting us to pay outrageous amounts of money for stuff like movies and music, when the actual artists don't get shit out of it.

 

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]rockyjohn[/nom]Gee, all this anger at the companies who are the victims and not a word about the thieves forcing the companies to try to protect their rights.[/citation]

this reason alone is why i usually try to avoid these arguments. The companies are asking for excessive "punishments" that are rediculous but at the same time pirates are running rampant and every one act's like it is thier "right" to pirate a movie or game or music. i'm really disgusted on both ends of the spetrum. When companies like the RIAA group ass rape a working mother for 1.92 million over what her kids downlaoded that is companies abusing the system as well as possilbe consumers. but Some asshole saying "they charge to much for this movie , so i'm gona pirate and uplaod it to the web" is also abusive criminal behavior. Just because they charge to much for your wallet DOES NOT give some one the right to steal it. entertainment is not a god (or goverment) given right so it is acrime to view or downlaod illegit copies of what ever media, I don't care what excuse some one throws up if you didn't pay for it and youar e downloading it youa re stealing it and should be punished... but In a reasonable manner. the companies targeting single motehrs becasue they can't take thier kids to court is ABUSE by the industry , charging that smae woman 1.92 million (about 80,000 a song ) is also extreme abuse , when you sell the songs for only 1- 2 dollars a song.


basically i'm disgusted by all parties involved in the piracy arguments , the corperates are greedy pigs , and the pirates are lazy low life theiving scum .. to both groups i'd like to say go fuck yourself

 

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]Hilarion[/nom]The MPAA and RIAA should be stopped from trying to suborn the government and the taxpayers dollars in their attempt to salvage their dinosauric (read "should be extinct") business model. They are trying to shift the cost burden of civil enforcement to the taxpayer. We should not be forced to pay for this with our tax dollars.[/citation]

another thign that disgust me about teh companies , they are not onlyw anting criminals to pay for the stolen goods theya re expecting hoenst tax payers to foot thier bills too regardelss of rather or not they are the poepel downlaoding , distributing the illegal goods