New HD channels WILL require new receivers.

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What "vested" interest will I possibly have?

DTV is going to do the changeouts themselves, I won't be in the loop.

If you think for one second that DTV is going to let paying customers
hanging with no access to the programming with all the competition out there
you're more clueless than I give you credit for.


"Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jackzwick-D23ACF.02333629082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <lfqdnaTDk9kS7I_eRVn-jw@comcast.com>,
> <agnesspor@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> No URL, take it for what it's worth from a satellite dealer of some 20
>> years
>> who has some pretty good inside contacts.
>>
>> Believe it or not, your choice.
>
> No logical reason to keep it a secret, or lose sales by refusing to put
> it in writing.
>
> Amd mo reason to believe an uunvalidated tale from a dealer with a
> vested interest in having one believe his tale.
>
>
>
>>
>> "Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:jackzwick-F7558E.21534526082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
>> > In article <__qdnYkINOtSKJLeRVn-qA@comcast.com>,
>> > <agnesspor@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> They will swap out existing HD receivers for free and will probably
>> >> have
>> >> to
>> >> provide new dishes along with it.
>> >
>> > And the URL for that is where?
>> >
>> >>
>> >> DTV will be handling this themselves, they're already putting together
>> >> the
>> >> manpower to do the swap.
>> >>
>> >> It will take months.
>> >>
>> >> "Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:jackzwick-4B36A0.16022022082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
>> >> > DIrecTv's press release proves it.
>> >> >
>> >> > "A Boeing 702 model satellite, Spaceway F2 is identical to the
>> >> > Spaceway
>> >> > F1 satellite, which launched April 26 from the Sea Launch platform
>> >> > and
>> >> > will conduct commercial operations from the 102.8-degree WL orbital
>> >> > slot."
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > No existing receiver is designed to handle the 102.8 WL slot.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Which do you think they will do first?
>> >> >
>> >> > A) Sell every new model HD receiver they can for $500
>> >> > and new HD-DVR for $1000
>> >> >
>> >> > B) Swap out current HD receivers for new ones for free.

 

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What I was told is that any ACTIVE HiDef unit will be swapped. SOME areas
will need new dishes -- presumably for hi def locals.
There MAY be a total of five satellite locations that will have to be
accessed by this rumored antenna upgrade.

BTW, as it stands now the local dealer (me) will NOT be in the swapout loop.
It will be handled by DTV inhouse. I kind of doubt that this will stand or
it will take months if not years to get to everyone.


"Dan Lanciani" <ddl@danlan.*com> wrote in message
news:1331577@news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM...
> In article <lfqdnaTDk9kS7I_eRVn-jw@comcast.com>, agnesspor@comcast.net
> writes:
> | No URL, take it for what it's worth from a satellite dealer of some 20
> years
> | who has some pretty good inside contacts.
>
> Do you happen to know if the swap will depend on having particular
> subscription
> packages?
>
> Dan Lanciani
> ddl@danlan.*com
>
>
> | > In article <__qdnYkINOtSKJLeRVn-qA@comcast.com>,
> | > <agnesspor@comcast.net> wrote:
> | >
> | >> They will swap out existing HD receivers for free and will probably
> have
> | >> to
> | >> provide new dishes along with it.

 

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In article <uqednXkS_JcHAIneRVn-iA@comcast.com>,
"AGN" <agnesspor1234@comcast.net> wrote:

> What I was told is that any ACTIVE HiDef unit will be swapped. SOME areas
> will need new dishes -- presumably for hi def locals.
> There MAY be a total of five satellite locations that will have to be
> accessed by this rumored antenna upgrade.

Anytime I hear such stuff from a DirecTv rep, I ask for it in writing,
and they quickly change the subject.



>
> BTW, as it stands now the local dealer (me) will NOT be in the swapout loop.
> It will be handled by DTV inhouse. I kind of doubt that this will stand or
> it will take months if not years to get to everyone.
>
>
> "Dan Lanciani" <ddl@danlan.*com> wrote in message
> news:1331577@news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM...
> > In article <lfqdnaTDk9kS7I_eRVn-jw@comcast.com>, agnesspor@comcast.net
> > writes:
> > | No URL, take it for what it's worth from a satellite dealer of some 20
> > years
> > | who has some pretty good inside contacts.
> >
> > Do you happen to know if the swap will depend on having particular
> > subscription
> > packages?
> >
> > Dan Lanciani
> > ddl@danlan.*com
> >
> >
> > | > In article <__qdnYkINOtSKJLeRVn-qA@comcast.com>,
> > | > <agnesspor@comcast.net> wrote:
> > | >
> > | >> They will swap out existing HD receivers for free and will probably
> > have
> > | >> to
> > | >> provide new dishes along with it.

 

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In article <dImdnVm0d4YLAYneRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
"AGN" <agnesspor1234@comcast.net> wrote:

> What "vested" interest will I possibly have?
>
> DTV is going to do the changeouts themselves, I won't be in the loop.
>
> If you think for one second that DTV is going to let paying customers
> hanging with no access to the programming with all the competition out there
> you're more clueless than I give you credit for.

If you think Dtv will instantly swap out old units for new $1000 units,
you are the one dreaming.


>
>
> "Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:jackzwick-D23ACF.02333629082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <lfqdnaTDk9kS7I_eRVn-jw@comcast.com>,
> > <agnesspor@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> No URL, take it for what it's worth from a satellite dealer of some 20
> >> years
> >> who has some pretty good inside contacts.
> >>
> >> Believe it or not, your choice.
> >
> > No logical reason to keep it a secret, or lose sales by refusing to put
> > it in writing.
> >
> > Amd mo reason to believe an uunvalidated tale from a dealer with a
> > vested interest in having one believe his tale.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:jackzwick-F7558E.21534526082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
> >> > In article <__qdnYkINOtSKJLeRVn-qA@comcast.com>,
> >> > <agnesspor@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> They will swap out existing HD receivers for free and will probably
> >> >> have
> >> >> to
> >> >> provide new dishes along with it.
> >> >
> >> > And the URL for that is where?
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> DTV will be handling this themselves, they're already putting together
> >> >> the
> >> >> manpower to do the swap.
> >> >>
> >> >> It will take months.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jack Zwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:jackzwick-4B36A0.16022022082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
> >> >> > DIrecTv's press release proves it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "A Boeing 702 model satellite, Spaceway F2 is identical to the
> >> >> > Spaceway
> >> >> > F1 satellite, which launched April 26 from the Sea Launch platform
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > will conduct commercial operations from the 102.8-degree WL orbital
> >> >> > slot."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No existing receiver is designed to handle the 102.8 WL slot.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Which do you think they will do first?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A) Sell every new model HD receiver they can for $500
> >> >> > and new HD-DVR for $1000
> >> >> >
> >> >> > B) Swap out current HD receivers for new ones for free.

 

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On 08/30/2005 2:43 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:

> In article <dImdnVm0d4YLAYneRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
> "AGN" <agnesspor1234@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> What "vested" interest will I possibly have?
>>
>> DTV is going to do the changeouts themselves, I won't be in the loop.
>>
>> If you think for one second that DTV is going to let paying customers
>> hanging with no access to the programming with all the competition out there
>> you're more clueless than I give you credit for.
>
> If you think Dtv will instantly swap out old units for new $1000 units,
> you are the one dreaming.

Not a dream at all. Most informed sources believe the upgrade will be
done at a very minimal cost to the subscriber if any all. There will
likely be a 2 year subscription commitment requirement, however. There's
a recent thread (and many others) over on the AVS boards about this.
--
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http/www.soundclick.com/rockermann

 

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Jack Zwick (jackzwick@yahoo.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
> If you think Dtv will instantly swap out old units for new $1000 units,
> you are the one dreaming.

No, they probably won't, but if you have a $1000 DirecTV receiver (and there
is only one), you are going to get something with equivalent features, just
like those with $80 receivers get devices with equivalent features.

In this case, *only* current HDTV users are affected...anybody new can pay
for the receiver (although likely at a typical committment-based discount).

For the current users, a non-DVR HDTV receiver might get replaced with
something that only costs $200 for "new" users, but as long as it does
everything that the receiver for which they paid $450-600 does, I don't see
any problem.

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In article <1125432290.8c7cd3e643488f05bc6cc29600d1e700@teranews>,
"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:

> On 08/30/2005 2:43 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
>
> > In article <dImdnVm0d4YLAYneRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
> > "AGN" <agnesspor1234@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> What "vested" interest will I possibly have?
> >>
> >> DTV is going to do the changeouts themselves, I won't be in the loop.
> >>
> >> If you think for one second that DTV is going to let paying customers
> >> hanging with no access to the programming with all the competition out
> >> there
> >> you're more clueless than I give you credit for.
> >
> > If you think Dtv will instantly swap out old units for new $1000 units,
> > you are the one dreaming.
>
> Not a dream at all. Most informed sources believe the upgrade will be
> done at a very minimal cost to the subscriber if any all. There will
> likely be a 2 year subscription commitment requirement, however. There's
> a recent thread (and many others) over on the AVS boards about this.

Nice try. Now produce a URL for your "informed source" - you?

The folks at the AVS boards are all guessing, as am I as DirecTv refuses
to say.

 

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In article <MPG.1d7ea7a5d859bf11989f5f@news.nabs.net>,
Jeff Rife <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote:

> Jack Zwick (jackzwick@yahoo.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
> > If you think Dtv will instantly swap out old units for new $1000 units,
> > you are the one dreaming.
>
> No, they probably won't, but if you have a $1000 DirecTV receiver (and there
> is only one), you are going to get something with equivalent features, just
> like those with $80 receivers get devices with equivalent features.

Again, just a guess on your part. There has been zero written
authoritatively by DirecTv. Anytime any rep promises a free swap out, I
ask for it in writing. Nothing in writing yet from DirecTv.


>
> In this case, *only* current HDTV users are affected...anybody new can pay
> for the receiver (although likely at a typical committment-based discount).
>
> For the current users, a non-DVR HDTV receiver might get replaced with
> something that only costs $200 for "new" users, but as long as it does
> everything that the receiver for which they paid $450-600 does, I don't see
> any problem.

 

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Jack Zwick (jackzwick@yahoo.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
> > No, they probably won't, but if you have a $1000 DirecTV receiver (and there
> > is only one), you are going to get something with equivalent features, just
> > like those with $80 receivers get devices with equivalent features.
>
> Again, just a guess on your part.

Based on historical data.

DirecTV has *always* replaced equipment for free when they change
technology in such a way that old equipment can no longer be used to
receive channels. When multiple satellite locations came up, receivers
and dishes were replaced for free.

In addition, DirecTV has always been glad to give away equipment when
not doing so would reduce the amount of money a customer could pay DirecTV.
Thus, multiswitches are given away for people who want to add more
receivers to their accounts (I almost expect to see them in CrackerJack
boxes at this point). Before the dish had a integrated multiswitch, people
who moved from a round dish to an elliptical to get HD were give both the
dish *and* a multiswitch.

> There has been zero written
> authoritatively by DirecTv. Anytime any rep promises a free swap out, I
> ask for it in writing. Nothing in writing yet from DirecTv.

And, there will be nothing. If we ever do see anything, it won't be as
detailed and specific as you seem to want.

Again, this is based on historical data. Previous equipment swaps were
not announced like "trade in a Hughes E86 receiver and get a Sony HD200".
They just happen, with no official statement. There are internal
guidelines, but by making nothing truly "official", it allows DirecTV to
fudge a bit to reward good (or just loud) customers. Thus, maybe *my* HD
receiver will be replaced with a 400GB MPEG-4 DVR, while *your* HD
receiver only gets you a 200GB MPEG-4 DVR.

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> Again, this is based on historical data. Previous equipment swaps were
> not announced like "trade in a Hughes E86 receiver and get a Sony HD200".
> They just happen, with no official statement. There are internal
> guidelines, but by making nothing truly "official", it allows DirecTV to
> fudge a bit to reward good (or just loud) customers. Thus, maybe *my* HD
> receiver will be replaced with a 400GB MPEG-4 DVR, while *your* HD
> receiver only gets you a 200GB MPEG-4 DVR.
>

It also allows them to get away with *not* replacing equipment for
people who don't ask for it. There's a lot of people out there who pay
full sticker price for new cars too, you know.

Randy S.

 

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Randy S. (rswitt@NOSPAM.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
> It also allows them to get away with *not* replacing equipment for
> people who don't ask for it.

True, but those that don't ask obviously don't care about the new channels.
Since no "old" channels are affected (which they were for some of the other
equipment swaps), DirecTV doesn't need to be as proactive about this
matter. Still, history says that when you (or whoever) gets around to
asking how you get that new channel, they'll give you any equipment you
need for free.

DirecTV is smart enough to know that if they say "you have to buy more
equipment to get HD locals" and the cable company says "we give you HD
locals with no extra hardware fee", they'll lose customers.

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Once upon a time, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> said:
>Again, just a guess on your part. There has been zero written
>authoritatively by DirecTv. Anytime any rep promises a free swap out, I
>ask for it in writing. Nothing in writing yet from DirecTv.

And we have only your word to rebut someone else's word. Why don't you
stop telling everyone they are all wrong when you have just as much
proof (i.e. none) as they do?
--
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Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

 

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>> No, they probably won't, but if you have a $1000 DirecTV receiver (and there
>> is only one), you are going to get something with equivalent features, just
>> like those with $80 receivers get devices with equivalent features.
>
>Again, just a guess on your part. There has been zero written
>authoritatively by DirecTv. Anytime any rep promises a free swap out, I
>ask for it in writing. Nothing in writing yet from DirecTv.

Has anyone gotten ANYTHING in writing from DirecTv in response to
a question? A response to how much a particular service will cost
(including all the taxes and bits they forgot to advertise)? (They
seem to REALLY hate that question, so I never subscribed since I
never got an answer). A response to a request for instructions on
how to use a hacked access card? (even if it's a disconnect notice
or a nasty lawyer letter about stealing service). A statement that
HBO isn't free, not even for senior citizens? A DMCA takedown
notice? A subpoena?

Gordon L. Burditt

 

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In article <11h9ttnadqhdj59@corp.supernews.com>,
cmadams@hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) wrote:

> Once upon a time, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> said:
> >Again, just a guess on your part. There has been zero written
> >authoritatively by DirecTv. Anytime any rep promises a free swap out, I
> >ask for it in writing. Nothing in writing yet from DirecTv.
>
> And we have only your word to rebut someone else's word. Why don't you
> stop telling everyone they are all wrong when you have just as much
> proof (i.e. none) as they do?

I'm not saying what they will do, just pointing out assurances of free
swaps are worthless, when DirecTv has been totally silent on the subject.

 

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Jack Zwick wrote:
> In article <11h9ttnadqhdj59@corp.supernews.com>,
> cmadams@hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) wrote:
>
>
>>Once upon a time, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>>>Again, just a guess on your part. There has been zero written
>>>authoritatively by DirecTv. Anytime any rep promises a free swap out, I
>>>ask for it in writing. Nothing in writing yet from DirecTv.
>>
>>And we have only your word to rebut someone else's word. Why don't you
>>stop telling everyone they are all wrong when you have just as much
>>proof (i.e. none) as they do?
>
>
> I'm not saying what they will do, just pointing out assurances of free
> swaps are worthless, when DirecTv has been totally silent on the subject.

Damn it Jack, nobody is guaranteeing anything, they are only repeating
what *they* have heard, some of them from much better sources then your
guesswork. Listen to what they say, weigh it against everything else,
and believe it or not as you see fit. But *quit* asking for "proof".
Nobody's offering any, nor are they offering guarantees, you'll just
have to make your own judgement. I, for one, am willing to put more
weight to a DTV rep who's repeating information he's received over your
pure speculation. However, neither will I be overly surprised if it
doesn't come down exactly as he has described, and I expect neither will
he. Note that even he indicated that he didn't think Directv would be
able to stick to the swap method he had heard about.

Quit sounding like a broken record, it's annoying. I don't know what's
got you all hot and bothered over this, maybe it's those know-nothing
front-line service reps, but the reality is that the final procedure
probably isn't even really set in stone yet.

Randy S.

 

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In article <MPG.1d7ec8d3abee4981989f60@news.nabs.net>,
Jeff Rife <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote:

> Jack Zwick (jackzwick@yahoo.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
> > > No, they probably won't, but if you have a $1000 DirecTV receiver (and
> > > there
> > > is only one), you are going to get something with equivalent features,
> > > just
> > > like those with $80 receivers get devices with equivalent features.
> >
> > Again, just a guess on your part.
>
> Based on historical data.
>
> DirecTV has *always* replaced equipment for free when they change
> technology in such a way that old equipment can no longer be used to
> receive channels. When multiple satellite locations came up, receivers
> and dishes were replaced for free.

Only for locations that required it to receive local stations, and that
was part of a Federal mandate.

HD is different. No legal requirement that any HD customer must receive
all broadcast HD stations. An HR10-250 will still receive as many or
more HD stations a year from now as it does today, even not receiving
any MPEG4 stations.

Again: DIRECTV has not issued a public statement about what they will do,
and your apples and oranges guess doesn't commit them to anything.

I certainly hope DirecTv does free swaps, but they haven't said so yet.

 

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Jack Zwick (jackzwick@yahoo.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
> > DirecTV has *always* replaced equipment for free when they change
> > technology in such a way that old equipment can no longer be used to
> > receive channels. When multiple satellite locations came up, receivers
> > and dishes were replaced for free.
>
> Only for locations that required it to receive local stations, and that
> was part of a Federal mandate.

No, that's not true. You're thinking of Dish Network and the single dish
requirement for all locals.

DirecTV gave free multi-satellite dishes to anyone that wanted them so
that they could get more programming of any kind.

> HD is different.

Not in DirecTV's eyes. Every single person who told DirecTV "I want to
get HD...what do I need?" was given a 3-LNB dish for free if they asked for
it, and many were given it even if they weren't.

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Jeff Rife wrote:
> Randy S. (rswitt@NOSPAM.com) wrote in rec.video.satellite.dbs:
>
>>It also allows them to get away with *not* replacing equipment for
>>people who don't ask for it.
>
>
> True, but those that don't ask obviously don't care about the new channels.
> Since no "old" channels are affected (which they were for some of the other
> equipment swaps), DirecTV doesn't need to be as proactive about this
> matter. Still, history says that when you (or whoever) gets around to
> asking how you get that new channel, they'll give you any equipment you
> need for free.
>
> DirecTV is smart enough to know that if they say "you have to buy more
> equipment to get HD locals" and the cable company says "we give you HD
> locals with no extra hardware fee", they'll lose customers.
>

Yep, and they also realize that HD users are most likely going to be
their highest paying customers. These are the folks that are at the
leading edge and are willing to pay to stay there. These are the *last*
customers that they'd want to chase away! Giving away $2-$300 worth of
equipment (their cost, not retail cost) to keep them will likely be
recouped in a year or less.

Randy S.

 

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> If you think Dtv will instantly swap out old units for new $1000 units,
> you are the one dreaming.

Watch and see, sport. Do you actually believe that the units cost DTV
anywhere near $1000?

With all your concerns and obvious sleepless nights over this, maybe you
should subscribe to hi def cable.

 

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On 08/30/2005 3:39 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:

> In article <1125432290.8c7cd3e643488f05bc6cc29600d1e700@teranews>,
> "Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08/30/2005 2:43 PM, Jack Zwick pondered briefly and then wrote:
>>
>> > In article <dImdnVm0d4YLAYneRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
>> > "AGN" <agnesspor1234@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What "vested" interest will I possibly have?
>> >>
>> >> DTV is going to do the changeouts themselves, I won't be in the loop.
>> >>
>> >> If you think for one second that DTV is going to let paying customers
>> >> hanging with no access to the programming with all the competition out
>> >> there
>> >> you're more clueless than I give you credit for.
>> >
>> > If you think Dtv will instantly swap out old units for new $1000 units,
>> > you are the one dreaming.
>>
>> Not a dream at all. Most informed sources believe the upgrade will be
>> done at a very minimal cost to the subscriber if any all. There will
>> likely be a 2 year subscription commitment requirement, however. There's
>> a recent thread (and many others) over on the AVS boards about this.
>
> Nice try. Now produce a URL for your "informed source" - you?
>
> The folks at the AVS boards are all guessing, as am I as DirecTv refuses
> to say.

You said it. You're guessing. But, do you really think D* is going to
charge long time customers a large amount and risk loosing those customers?

We're going to find out for sure which way DirecTV is going to go. I'll
'guess' that they require a 2 year commitment and maybe shipping
charges. I 'guess' we'll see who's right soon enough.
--
Steve
http/www.soundclick.com/rockermann