[citation][nom]mrmez[/nom]I blame video games entirely for every single act of violence.After all, before video games nobody killed ANYONE.Just look at WWII. Hitler was playing FPS' since he could sit in a chair! The result: 60+ million dead.I mean... just look at the link. Gun homicides are just up, up, and out of control!http
/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe [...] weapon.svgWait, what?They aren't out of control. Firearm homicides have halved in the last 10 years, despite the population AND gun ownership growing. But how can that be?Even the total number of violent crimes is down ~20% in the last 5 years according the the FBI, again, despite the increasing population.http
/www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u [...] nse-figureScary stuff!Why don't we worry about something that actually kills LOTS of people.The CDC reports that ~44 people die EVERY HOUR in the USA due to smoking, and that excludes 2nd hand smoke. Thats a little under 400,000 deaths a year.Or heart disease: 597,689Cancer: 574,743Hell, Influenza and Pneumonia kill 50,097 a year.Or maybe look at motor vehicle fatalities, that took over 12,000 lives... in 1920.Yet here we are, pi$$ing our pants about 11,000 firearm homicides a year.[/citation]
to our credit, we only really start caring about gun violence when its either a mass shooting
[citation][nom]blackmancer[/nom]11000/365= someone shot dead in America every 48mins.Its hard to kill people when you can't buy a gun, dead simple.[/citation]
most people dead by guns are... gang member who get their guns... illegally, and when they arent killing each other they are... killing an innocent person with... that gun they got illegaly.
gun laws will not stop people like them, the vast majority of people who start gun violence.
[citation][nom]kingnoobe[/nom]O really?http
/www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u [...] s/table-20Funny everybody is up in arms at 'assault rifles", but look at the stats closely. This is just another thing of a bad thing happened to a large number of bodies and unfortunately kids so it brings about a knee jerk reaction out of everybody on both sides. Even thought there are far more things that you should be concerned about.So concerned put my tax payer money to good use (instead of throwing it down the drain, giving it to countries that I could care less about, and/or pocketing it) and put police in the schools. Which shouldn't make kids afraid, but happy. Cops should be looked up to just like people look up to military personal (and yes I'm former military). Maybe even more so because they really are the ones that are trying to protect us from everyday threats. They simply get a bad rap because they gave you a ticket. Pretty sad when we can spend so much on armed forces, and yet can't find away to keep a decent amount of cops around in the states due to cutbacks.[/citation]
actually the cops around here get no respect at all because a speed sign moved 300 feet, and it was their for 3 months. and in those 3 months, lights on cop cars were never off. 24/7 tickets.
than you have the cops who are so fat they cant effectively do their job, so all they do IS give out tickets for things that should barely be ticketable.
and while i was still in school, we were put on lock down, 7 times, not drill lock down, and lock down was what they called it for when someone with a gun comes in and starts shooting. the locked us down 7 times so dogs could come in and sniff out pot.
yea, in my rural wisconsin area, cops get NO respect and barely deserve it... however swat does get respect because they actually deal with crap and are called in whenever cops may be put in danger.
the cops around us are the kind you really can say they are on a power trip and would have just been bullies in school just now they have a badge.
id like to respect cops... but in my area i just cant.
[citation][nom]vertigo_2000[/nom]I think the point is that it's a lot harder to kill 27 people with a knife than it is with an automatic assault rifle. (/end devil's advocacy)[/citation]
a bomb... i mean recently a method like that was stopped, but look at it, its a school and an enclosed environment, a bomb would do significantly more damage in that area than an assault riffle could dream of. yet in the same thing, the people i head the story from were tanking god he didnt have a gun...
its like people have no critical thinking what so ever when it comes to these things.
[citation][nom]fuzznarf[/nom]In all actuality, Killing 20 children with a samuri sword would have probably been quicker than shooting them.not to mention that you are misrepresenting the facts. There was NO automatic weapon used. There was NO assault rifle used. The only weapons found in the school with the dead guy were 2 handguns. The rifle was still in the car. @0:20
http/www.youtube.com/watch?v=73aSK_fBk1kthe media has already moved on to newer thing to sensationalize and cannot be bothered to set the record straight... nor does the media really care to. Journalism is dead.[/citation]
lets think of that... would it be easier to do... thats hard to say... you could be stopped alot easier, thats for sure, but lets say you get one classroom, thats about all the damage you could do before everyone else gets out as fast as they can. sure, a sword could do more damage and be more efficient, but people have the balls to stop a person with a sword, a gun... everyone is running away if they have a chance to live.
[citation][nom]wiyosaya[/nom]IMHO, all preventable deaths are cause for concern.I think part of the concern is the attention gun deaths get from the media. It would appear that the media does not actively discuss other sources of preventable death like medical mistakes perhaps because our culture does not want to hear that our "healers" actually cause deaths.[/citation]
if you are a doctor or a surgeon, you are going to kill someone at some point. a crappy fact but its true. i dont like storys like that making news unless its was gross and easily preventable negligence.
on the other side, we have drugs that WILL kill us if we take them to long, like vicoden, something i will probably be put back on, while pot, at least in my case, could probably be prescribed to deal with the pain, but cant because its a federal law against it, and in states where it is legal, the dispensaries get raided by feds.
but lets go back to the way the shootings are reported...
they CAUSE COPY CATS...
that should be reported, as irresponsible reporting and our own sick desire to see it happen that drives ratings.
[citation][nom]f-14[/nom]only if you are deaf. it's far easier for me to use knife and stab more people in a crowd than it is to use a gun the second the BANG BANG starts people start to run and duck and cover.given the choice of venue it would be far easier to slash 20-30 throats at a night club than it would be to shoot 20-30 people at a school.it'd be far easier to kill 30 people by tossing a hand grenade at say a democratic convention or sporting stadium in the middle of the event.[/citation]
a real grenade yes, an improvised, no.
as for the knife... no, not easier to get 30 there, but it would be easier to get away with it.
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