Obama Reveals Plan to Counter Foreign Cyber-Espionage

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[citation][nom]wannabepro[/nom] America can't put economic pressure on China, we buy all of our stuff from them.. I believe we should fight fire with fire.(And in the mean time, bring manufacturing and production jobs back to America)[/citation]

you could start by cancelling this:
http://www.epi.org/publication/briefingpapers_pntr_china/
PNTR with China
Economic and political costs greatly outweigh benefits
By Jeff Faux | April 1, 2000

[citation][nom]thecolorblue[/nom]the gradual ramp up in the momentum for this cybersecurity fear mongering propaganda campaign is extremely reminiscent of the propaganda campaign leading up to the invasion of Iraq... and we now know that the propaganda ramp up for the 2 nd Iraq war was a COMPLETE FABRICATION.FEARFEARCHINAFEARFEARCHINAFEARCHINACHINAFEARCHINACHINACHINAobama is greasing america before he slides a masive surveillance d!ldo right up everyone's @$$ and the way this is playing out... america is going to be begging for it and then thanking him afterwards. brilliant media/govt collaborative campaign to brainwash the masses.we're all royally f*****[/citation]

i agree. he's got 2 years before the next senate and house elections.

i still don't understand how people can not know there were chemical WMDs in iraq. our CIA gave them to saddam for the iran-iraq war, we watched it on nightly news on all the major networks dozens of times as europeans american and arab television field reporters took video standing in the middle of the aftermath.
Halabja Massacre The halabja poison gas attack (Unpublished video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn6unMAhl6s
skip ahead to the 2:30 minute mark, tell me if these kurds look like they were shot, or blown up by mines or hit by rpgs or motars or tank shells? notice how none of them have weapons and a great deal of them are women and children.

The Halabja poison gas attack (Kurdish: کیمیابارانی ھەڵەبجە Kîmyabarana Helebce), also known as Halabja massacre or Bloody Friday,[1] was a genocidal massacre against the Kurdish people that took place on March 16, 1988, during the closing days of the Iran–Iraq War, when chemical weapons were used by the Iraqi government forces in the Kurdish town of Halabja in Southern Kurdistan.

The attack killed between 3,200 and 5,000 people, and injured around 7,000 to 10,000 more, most of them civilians;[1][2] thousands more died of complications, diseases, and birth defects in the years after the attack.[3] The incident, which has been officially defined as an act of genocide against the Kurdish people in Iraq,[4] was and still remains the largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history.[5]
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Halabja attack has been recognized as a separate event from the Anfal Genocide that was also conducted against the Kurdish people by the Iraqi regime under Saddam Hussein.[6] The Iraqi High Criminal Court recognized the Halabja massacre as an act of genocide on March 1, 2010, a decision welcomed by the Kurdistan Regional Government.[7] The attack was also condemned as a crime against humanity by the Parliament of Canada.[8]

point is don't feel bad about the invasion of iraq and killing of saddam.

if the same ends up happening in china it will probably be a nuclear war. i would hate to go to war with china for the same reasons we shouldn't have with iraq, but if the chinese government gets overthrown, i won't feel too bad about that because i know for some people things are going to get immensely better it may take time. but it's certainly better than what's happened since Mao took charge. my only hope if it comes to that is some one like Eisenhower is in charge when it comes time.
 
I doubt anyone will be able to adequately determine what products are the result of stolen science and technology documentation. It is possible for people to come up with the same invention or discovery completely independently of each other, or for people to be inspired by someone else's work and figure out largely on their own (without doing proper reverse engineering) how the original person did it. It would not be fair to assume that everyone besides the first person just completely cheated and completely copied from the original and is therefore unworthy of any praise and monetary reward.

I suspect the USA is spying on China just to discover what China has stolen and not to steal China's science and technology. However I doubt that it is possible to do the former without accidentally also doing the latter. I'm guessing the USA is not really concerned about that though because maybe China doesn't really have anything of their own to steal. Maybe though the USA government can steal from USA companies via China.
 
[citation][nom]ddpruitt[/nom]So you want us to bring back all the low paying no skill jobs? The ones that put us in the hole to begin with? The same ones that make an American car cost $2000 more to build than an equivalent foreign car?Manufacturing jobs need to stay in China. We need to put some serious pressure on countries that steal trillions in IP that we paid for. Not just give some "consistent message".[/citation]

You do know that most of those 'foreign' cars that people really like to buy are made here, right? Just Toyota and Honda don't have 50 years of union retirement benefits to pay....
 
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