Paranoid Villagers Force Google's Car Out of Town

[Guest]

It amazes me the British people are the most surveyed on earth. Fully 80% of the country's entire policing budget is spent on their surveillance camera system. If I were them I'd be worried about big brother not google.

 

[haze4peace]

The positives of Google street view far out weigh the negatives.

 

[Raid3r]

They took a stand and physically solved the problem, in fact the only problem was that they called the police. All you technocrats always make ME laugh cause you believe technology is your GOD.

If people don't want WI-FI they don't have to F'n have it(it relates cause you act THE same way when a city that denies wi-fi access for various reasons). Seriously its not like they are using cans and string and that wi-fi is going to SAVE them.

If people want to take a stand and protect something in a physical way THEY CAN. Your laws matter much less when it comes down to ME AND YOU and that's what America was BUILT on and in the very end will return to.

That's what humility is FOR and every American needs a healthy dose of it to get them out of this horrible techno-frilly way of thinking. It is an UNESSENTIAL technology it furthers and advances NOTHING! Satellite images IS FAR enough.

HEY I got an idea that's complete tyranny, lets take everyone's driver license photo and put them next to our numbers at yellow pages(or any other listing while your at it) without your consent... Whats sad...is someone will think this is actually a good idea. wake up.

 

[Guest]

Crazy! I guess they are worried about images like these surfacing:

http/streetviewgallery.corank.com

 

[kgrach]

@raid3r
you miss the big picture it is extremely helpful.
I used it house hunting. I use street view all the time when looking for directions. You can make an argument that satellite is not useful or that satellite is invasive.

But street view is not invasive and it is very useful.
Your arguments prove you disprove of street view because you are ignorant and not because of any concrete reasoning.

Sorry My high tech offends you but I refuse to eat rancid food because you disapprove of my refrigerator. I also refuse to risk burning my house down because you disapprove of my use of high tech electric lights.

umm you do know many business people pay extra to have their business location or their photo listed in the yellow pages.

 

[Gazz]

I aplaud the idear of them standing up for what they belive in and now days big buisness does what it like then fights it out in cort
the damage if there is any is already done and they have what they wanted
And all they get is a slp on the wrist
No they should ask first to get permision
Gazz

 

[kingssman]

I wish Google view would shoot at a higher resolution so they can see the outdoor security camera on my house along with the dog barking at the window.

Of course what I will be very embarrassed about if they photograph my house before I made my renovations and it the data stays out of date for any potential homebuyers in the future that use google street view to view homes and neighborhoods.

 

[bardia]

This is why a strong 2nd Amendment > a silly right to privacy. =)

 

[Raid3r]

[nom]kgrach[/nom]@raid3ryou miss the big picture it is extremely helpful.I used it house hunting. I use street view all the time when looking for directions. You can make an argument that satellite is not useful or that satellite is invasive.But street view is not invasive and it is very useful.

** pffft wow your a candy coating one trick coin aren't you? First of all your backwards and its completely obvious. Satellite is ENOUGH street view IS invasive to the extreme fact...how can you believe otherwise? One is taking from a global view the other is done like some Orwelian black van without ANY acknowledgment that I know of. Perhaps this is opinion but its simple to see where the line is crossed.**


Your arguments prove you disprove of street view because you are ignorant and not because of any concrete reasoning.Sorry My high tech offends you but I refuse to eat rancid food because you disapprove of my refrigerator. I also refuse to risk burning my house down because you disapprove of my use of high tech electric lights.

**Wow you are an extremist..THAT'S your problem your BIASED, cause technology is your god. How dare you bring APPLIANCE into a perceivable 2d APPLICATION. Nice try on twisting my words but your attempt is full of contempt. Your true colors are on the table and you actually have nothing to debate my FACTS with on WHY everyone should just accept being documented just BECAUSE.

Obviously some people are willing to take action. Other than groveling to be removed from a database they did not even know or asked to be in.**

umm you do know many business people pay extra to have their business location or their photo listed in the yellow pages.

**Are you daft? Or just lack comprehension skills...I can't tell, I would say...BUT I am being blog credible so. I am going to repeat what I said for you and give you a second chance..

HEY I got an idea that's complete tyranny, lets take everyone's driver license photo and put them next to our numbers at yellow pages(or any other listing while your at it) without your consent... Whats sad...is someone will think this is actually a good idea. wake up.

 

[dezonio2]

For those of you doubting the ingenuity of robbers, rest assured you will get hit when you least expect it. Sure they range from misguided coke addicts to organized groups, but they are not idiots sitting in caves. Everyone has computers. Now it is just easier to do rough scouts before a real one. I agree, roads are public but my property is not. I had my Image removed from Google... (of course all the ranting and law-talk aside... quite frankly it was only because of my pitiful lawn).

I have to take a stab at the author and his coworkers. Why laugh?

 

[kgrach]

@raid3r
Google satellite gives views invisible from the street and views I can't get without a plane. Like your backyard and areas private.
Street view gives me public stuff I can see for myself.
Legaly you can't stop Google from taking your picture BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO RESONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ON A PUBLIC STREET!!!!!
What I am supposed to look away when you walk down the street or evert my eyes from your property when I walk past. Sorry your highness but I won't nor can you compel me to.
People like you are a major problem in any community because you think you own the curb in front of your house guess what you don't!!

Google takes down your picture because they want to be polite. BUT you have no legal grounds to stand on nor will you ever to make them.

You want your home hidden from public view build a tall fence or do what some communities do. YOU HAVE PRIVATE ROADS THAT YOU PAY FOR.
NOW YOU OWN THE SPACE IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. Now you can block google from driving down your street.

It is not an invasion of privacy because none can be resonably expected on a public thoroughfare.

I serously doubt you have a home worth scouting if it sits in plain view from a public thoroughfare so give up this It would give thieves something to scout bull. You're just worried your spouse will spot your car parked in the niehbors driveway. Don't worry google blurs plates.

This is not orwellain or such nonsense its a usefull tool nothing more nothing less. It takes nothing away from you becuase you never ever had the right to make the great unwashed evert thier eyes from your holy presense.

Nobody in law enforcement will ever take your claim seriously about Street view helping crooks becuase unless you have a 20 million dollar plus house. No thief will take the time or effort to scout ahead using street view. If they were willing to work they would have a job instead of boosting tv's and stealing car GPS units.

I can just see the meth user sitting in front of his beat up gateway using dialup trying to navigate streetview to scout your neihborhood. Ten seconds in the computer is on the floor and he is heading for his car becuase it is to slow to be helpful for him. Streetview even on a super fast system is way to slow to scout a neighborhood. Driving is much quicker and easier.
THIS IS NOT SOME HOLLYWOOD CRIME SHOW.
They are just not that disciplined. If they are they are not petty crooks. Only a small time thief would take the trouble of breaking into your house because no matter how precious your stuff is to you. Your stuff has very little monetary value to a thief.

I once had a thief break into my car stole the radio and tossed my tools and ham gear into the neighbors bushes. That stuff was worth thousands of times the price of the stupid Sony he stole.
Heck the stupid screwdriver antenna on the outside of my car was worth more. He didn't touch it because he had no clue of what it was worth or cared becuase it would have little or no value to his buyers.

 

[mrubermonkey]

I am going to get heat for this but, stupid foreigners (Non-Americans).

 

[Raid3r]

jazuz...its all me me me. No one cares about your personal identification to the situation...it makes you BIASED! I have nothing other than off or on suggestions and meanings in all that I have said. You don't speak for anybody but yourself and that makes you useless in this topic.

Satellite does get your back yard but sadly there is not much I can do about a satellite so I do WHAT I can. But this is D I F F E R E N T if I seee it I am going to do something obviously others feel the same quit talking so much and listen to yourself its a disgrace.

Streets are meant to be rode on and AMERICANS have the rights to them....not google taking pictures just because its paying for said pictures....residential areas have a lot of abilities such as...not having factories and such things built around them...this if put into context HAS the SAME effect.

Just deal with it...this is not a necessity and can and will be dealt with as people choose contrary to what laws or certain minorities like you think. Its about choice that's all. Its just pathetic you get to choose AFTER its done if you don't live like a paranoid soldier. As for your other "points" its a bunch of hot air that misses the subject.

 

[kgrach]

What none of you privacy nuts realize. If you do get your way THEN YOU WILL BE IN DANDGER OF BEING ROBBED,MUGGED MURDERED.

Laws are built on precedence
If some dumb judge anywhere in the United States agrees with you and says there is a resonable expectation of privacy on a public thoroughfare. law enforcement is DONE!!! end of story. Life as you know it ends.
The criminals will then have the upper hand and more will go free and the ones out there will be much harder to aprehend.

Police will be unable to take pictures or video of a suspect meeting people or dealing drugs on a public street without a court order which will be impossible to do becuase if you say a meeting of suspect a and b at location c and they stop five feet away and have the meeting. All video and photos now become inadmissiable in court.
But you say this law is about google, no its not laws have to apply equally to everyone at all times.

You say it can't happen I am wrong NO I AM NOT
Not on this

Example Sidd & Marty Krofft Television Productions, Inc. v. McDonald's Corp., 562 F.2d 1157, decided by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in 1977.

The lawsuit said that look and feel of the mcdonalds characters even though different from the puffnstuff characters had a simular look and feel.

That precedence allowed Atari, Inc. v. North American Philips Consumer Electronics Corp., 672 F.2d 607 7th Cir. 1982
and to sue and win. Even though the software and the game was different it had a simular look and feel.

That case was used in a series of computer and software suits for the next decade and ultimately changed computer history.

Look and feel of custumes precedence was used in software electronics. Law is Law.

If google is not allowed to take pictures on a public thoroughfare then NOBODY IS. That means you yes you Raid3r can and wil be arrested for taking a photo of your kids in the street in front of your house. LAW IS LAW it must be applied equally to all.

Also since the courts have agreed that a photo is no different from looking that means you could be arrested for looking at a neighbors lawn as you drive by. No I am not joking if you get your way then stupid things like that can and will happen.

 

[scryer_360]

If I was the driver, I'd note that the burglaries of the past had occurred before the Google vehicle came through, and that pictures of affluent areas such as his can be found on the township's website, or by just driving through (the traditional means of burglars).

 

[shqtth]

WHy whould athieve need a need a google map to plan a heist? don't they usually stake out the place first?

And when they do that, will the idiot human blockade block the thieve from tking a visual picture?


If people are so worried about thieves, then they should form a block watch or a COP (Citizens on Patrol).


Most thieves are drug abusers, i doubt they have time or brain power to use the PC anyways for looking up maps etc.

But for the few thieves thate are pofessionals, you don't stand a chance against them, they will rob you if you like it or not. ANd it doesn't matter if there is maps online or not, as they know what they are doing and are very resourceful.


Why would we need a map to know where the rich areas of town are? that is common knownledge. I am sure everyone in town already knowns and don't need a studid map to tell them.

PS: By the way, tell those stupid idiots that block googles car that thieves can already see there small puny houses on google earth haha. That will get their panties in a knot.

 

[g0rilla]

1. If they don't want strangers driving in their 'hood, put up a gate.
2. You can ask Google to remove pictues of your house, however then the baddies will know who is paranoid and where to go, otherwise your house just blends in with the rest.

 

[njalterio]

[citation][nom]Raid3r[/nom][nom]kgrach[/nom]@raid3ryou miss the big picture it is extremely helpful.I used it house hunting. I use street view all the time when looking for directions. You can make an argument that satellite is not useful or that satellite is invasive.But street view is not invasive and it is very useful.** pffft wow your a candy coating one trick coin aren't you? First of all your backwards and its completely obvious. Satellite is ENOUGH street view IS invasive to the extreme fact...how can you believe otherwise? One is taking from a global view the other is done like some Orwelian black van without ANY acknowledgment that I know of. Perhaps this is opinion but its simple to see where the line is crossed.**Your arguments prove you disprove of street view because you are ignorant and not because of any concrete reasoning.Sorry My high tech offends you but I refuse to eat rancid food because you disapprove of my refrigerator. I also refuse to risk burning my house down because you disapprove of my use of high tech electric lights.**Wow you are an extremist..THAT'S your problem your BIASED, cause technology is your god. How dare you bring APPLIANCE into a perceivable 2d APPLICATION. Nice try on twisting my words but your attempt is full of contempt. Your true colors are on the table and you actually have nothing to debate my FACTS with on WHY everyone should just accept being documented just BECAUSE. Obviously some people are willing to take action. Other than groveling to be removed from a database they did not even know or asked to be in.**umm you do know many business people pay extra to have their business location or their photo listed in the yellow pages.**Are you daft? Or just lack comprehension skills...I can't tell, I would say...BUT I am being blog credible so. I am going to repeat what I said for you and give you a second chance..HEY I got an idea that's complete tyranny, lets take everyone's driver license photo and put them next to our numbers at yellow pages(or any other listing while your at it) without your consent... Whats sad...is someone will think this is actually a good idea. wake up.[/citation]

Actually, google street view is not an invasion to privacy and is actually a very useful tool with virtually no negative problems (minus displaying how terrible one's yard looks). Unfortunately, the person you are arguing with is a moron and couldn't convey this thinking very well so allow me:

1) Everyone already has access to the front view of your property via driving past on the street or walking by on the sidewalk. Since I already had access to the front view by seeing it in person, there is no violation of piracy.

2) THIS IS NOT A LIVE CAMERA! The information is not updated regularly, so it is definitely not reliable for plotting a theft WITHOUT actually checking the property in person anyways. (i.e. the google street view of my house is over a year old, before I even moved in)

3) Technology is not our god, or anyone's god for that matter. Technology is a tool, and we value technology because it is useful, hence all of the companies that profit by technology (including WiFi and all that Google has done).

In America, if something is useful, it makes money. That's one of the ideas behind capitalism. We pay for what we value. If you don't feel comfortable with technology, that is your issue. No one has infringed against your rights, you are not entitled to use physical force for the sole reason you do not like something.

 

[FlayerSlayer]

[citation][nom]koss64[/nom]Your neighbours house just got robbed , would you feel comfortable with complete strangers drving around in a car taking pictures of your house to put on the internet where evrey Tom,Dick and Harry can see?[/citation]
[citation][nom]rudhyar[/nom]The villagers are "Paranoid"? That's insulting and condescending. What ever happened to the "right to privacy"? Nosy people have plenty of options for their voyeurism. Get off your lazy behinds and GO somehwere![/citation]
Really? Sounds like they already got robbed just fine without street view pictures. Google's going to cause all crime, even retroactively now? They're just pictures of the houses like anyone can see. If it were a gated community, sure. Gates and security get privacy, but if the street is open to everyone, then Google isn't posting anything that's not already available.

 

[Guest]

The end of the story the residents are all wrong anyways. There are no laws which stop anyone from taking a photograph of the exterior of a building from the city street in fact there are laws on the books protecting the right to do so. As a photographer I understand these laws very well and constantly have to remind people (showing them documentation) that their Church, School, Appt Building etc is not a special case also you need no permission from the owner. If they feel there is a increase chance of crime in their area then they should take steps to ensure their homes are secure.