Philips Intros $60 Lightbulb that Lasts 20 Years

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frozonic

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interesting.... i tough "Ultra durable" products were againts big corporation bussines plan that consist in Buying,Use, Trow away, Buy againg... Faith in humanity: Restored!
 

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We are still using transformers at the bulb which increases the materials needed for these bulbs as well as power consumption. I sure hope that we aren't using this method 20 years from now.
 
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What I really want is brighter LEDs. They're not bright enough for my needs unfortunately and so I have to stick with cfl or *shudder* halogen.
 

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I doubt I pay $60 even over 10 years in bulb replacement.

(Not true, I have one LED and several fluorescent bulbs but only because we do try to save energy... but if I DIDN'T... good old incandescent bulbs last a decent amount of time and cost pennies in comparison).
 
When these get down to at least CFL prices I will be buying these. Maybe even at $10 a pop. $60 is just too rich for my blood. Especially since they will likely drop drastically in price in the next five years when production ramps up.

Also I need 100 watt replacements and decorative small 10 watt to 25 watt models for chandaliers. Not every fixture in a house just uses large bulbs covered with a shade. Those often found over dining tables use those small candle flame shaped bulbs.

Much of my bulbs have already been replaced with CFL's. Except where brighter lighting is needed, small decorative bulbs or outdoors for cold weather performance.

I'm also hopeful for the even more efficient LEP (light emitting plasma). That tech is probably quite a ways off to hit mainstream though.
 

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[citation][nom]frozonic[/nom]interesting.... i tough "Ultra durable" products were againts big corporation bussines plan that consist in Buying,Use, Trow away, Buy againg... Faith in humanity: Restored![/citation]

not for $60 and they can still get damaged and need to be replaced.
 

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When the company promises that it will last 20 years, do they back up that promise with a replacement guarantee so I could take my burned out bulb back in 5 years and get an instant replacement, no question asked?

If not, I will stick with CFLs.
 

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Get my heating and cooling to use less energy out of the box and then we'll talk. I have already replaced my bulbs with CFLs.
 

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LED lighting makes me wonder why new homes are not wired with DC and AC circuitry. A large part of power, cost, and reliability for the LED bulbs is the power conversion, if you centralize the power supply in the breaker box, you can get a lot more efficiency and much cheaper and more reliable bulbs.
 

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I'll stick to my $2-3 CFL bulbs that eat up just 13 watts (for a 60W replacement) and last 7+ years. I even like 20W CFLs that are 100W replacements that are around 4$, good luck finding comparable LED bulbs. LED are great in my flashlight, in my Christmas lights, and back-lightning my monitors and TVs. They also look great as accent lights on my car. General lightning? not so much.
 

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The numbers in the article suggest that the average US household has about 16 hours of use with 60watt incandescent per day.

If that means 4 bulbs each used for four hours per day, then their $3.9B in savings would cost $27.6B in bulbs, over seven years to break even.

If it is more like 8 bulbs each for two hours, then the break-even is over 14 years.

I don't think I have any fixtures that are on enough hours of the day where they would pay for themselves quickly enough for me to bother. Maybe outdoor lighting?

 

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I think CFL is still the way to go for the foreseeable future...
I dislike CFLs because of their, often perceivable, flickering, harsh light, limited dimming, disposal costs associated with the mercury, and their tendency to flicker more and dim significantly over time... But this technology has come a long long long way and at 13w and $0.99, they are the way to go for the foreseeable future, at least until LED tech comes WAY down in price...

I have no incandescent bulbs in my home anymore. I don't plan on ever getting another one.
 

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At Home Depot Eco Smart as 75W and 90W for $30 & $38...this one going for $50.

Makes sense for me; in once instance. I leave two flood lights on all night at my entrance (8 pm - 8 am) (plus others). I calculated the yearly electric bill at approx $100 for these two lights (12 hours a day adds up).

And these lights burn out in about a year so I have to replace them often (one just went out again).

As long as it's "warm" enough for my wife I'll end up buying them and saving money after one year (plus I won't have to pull out the ladder...).

But...changing other lights doesn't make much sense...fixtures are loaded up with more than one bulb so it could get real expensive...If I go to my bedroom and start counting; 8 in bedroom, 12 in bathroom...6 in closet...2 in WC = 28...28 x 1 is much better than 28 x 60 :)
 

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I just put in my first few LED lights in my house, and have mixed feelings about them.
I love that they are a much whiter light (or tone accurate if you have a specific color range in mind) then CFLs, but they are simply not bright enough yet.

The great thing about CFLs was that I went through the house and replaced all my 60W bulbs with 100-120W CFL bulbs because they put out much less heat and still used much less power than their old edison equivilants. Long story short, to get the light level I am now use to I would have to purchase oversized, directional, 120W equivilant LED bulbs which are no more power efficient than CFLs (though better light quality), and simply will not fit in my light fixtures.

LED light is awesome for specific use lighting (low light, directional lighting with specific color temperatures), but for general use lighting they simply are not there yet. But they have come a long way in the last 3-5 years, so I think it will be here before we know it.


What ever happened to GE's OLED panel lighting?!?! That was awesome stuff! Make the whole ceiling a single light source! no/minimal shadows, super low power, and many of the light quality advantages of LED.
 
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