[citation][nom]11796pcs[/nom]Pelov ^^ you say I am spewing poorly understood scientific knowledge yet you do nothing to prove me wrong. Right on Wikipedia it says and I quote "The law expresses that energy can be transformed, i.e. changed from one form to another, but cannot be created nor destroyed." Is the creation of energy not one of the things the Big Bang creates?[/citation]
I find it comical that you use scientific reason to disprove scientific reason, yet also use scientific reason to prove your own religious beliefs to be true. You have to understand that the mere fact that you're using science to disprove science only legitimizes science's credibility in the first place. Otherwise, why the hell use it if you think it's wrong? You understand science provides something religion can't, and that's sound proof. An "a-ha" moment that can say "that's why!." The fact that you're not pointing to religious text means that there's stuff in there that even you don't believe and therefore doesn't do well in arguments.
But you're right, at least partially. Thermodynamics states that energy can't be created nor lost. E=MC^2, where energy and matter are essentially one in the same (and furthermore, modern thought states that matter itself isn't actually matter as we know it, but rather waves and resembles energy more so than matter as we generally think of it), and it states many more things as a result of that finding. But the big bang doesn't necessarily have to mean something from nothing, but could potentially be the big break, the big bounce, and even the concept of alternate universes. So the big bang isn't "the answer" you're looking to tear apart. In fact there's many of them, and what that proves is that we simply don't know. Ask a physicist if the big bang ever occurred and what happened before or after the big bang, his best answer would essentially be "we're not sure" followed by his or her belief as to what constitutes the most probable. Ultimately the answer is: I don't know. What the big bang attempts to answer is the expansion and subsequent acceleration of space and the universe. There's many guesses as to why, but media has picked up on the big bang because it was one of the earlier ones that, at least partially, explained some of the quirks that we were seeing. It doesn't explain all of the intricacies, though, and therefore is an incomplete theory and isn't an answer.
I thought you were referring to entropy itself, which is an altogether more confusing subject.
I find it comical that you use scientific reason to disprove scientific reason, yet also use scientific reason to prove your own religious beliefs to be true. You have to understand that the mere fact that you're using science to disprove science only legitimizes science's credibility in the first place. Otherwise, why the hell use it if you think it's wrong? You understand science provides something religion can't, and that's sound proof. An "a-ha" moment that can say "that's why!." The fact that you're not pointing to religious text means that there's stuff in there that even you don't believe and therefore doesn't do well in arguments.
But you're right, at least partially. Thermodynamics states that energy can't be created nor lost. E=MC^2, where energy and matter are essentially one in the same (and furthermore, modern thought states that matter itself isn't actually matter as we know it, but rather waves and resembles energy more so than matter as we generally think of it), and it states many more things as a result of that finding. But the big bang doesn't necessarily have to mean something from nothing, but could potentially be the big break, the big bounce, and even the concept of alternate universes. So the big bang isn't "the answer" you're looking to tear apart. In fact there's many of them, and what that proves is that we simply don't know. Ask a physicist if the big bang ever occurred and what happened before or after the big bang, his best answer would essentially be "we're not sure" followed by his or her belief as to what constitutes the most probable. Ultimately the answer is: I don't know. What the big bang attempts to answer is the expansion and subsequent acceleration of space and the universe. There's many guesses as to why, but media has picked up on the big bang because it was one of the earlier ones that, at least partially, explained some of the quirks that we were seeing. It doesn't explain all of the intricacies, though, and therefore is an incomplete theory and isn't an answer.
I thought you were referring to entropy itself, which is an altogether more confusing subject.
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