Pro-Copyright Musician Was Pirating Music

[dark_lord69]

ROTFLMAO!!!!
Seriously, the RIAA makes examples of people.
It's time for us to make an example of this person and say "See! we all have some copywritten material on our PC that we don't really own the rights to."

 

[djackson_dba]

"It is not. You do not need "permission".
I can tell you have not asked an attorney about this. I just did. If the performance is for profit, you are using copyrighted songs, you have to work it out with the person who holds the copyright. Free performances are exempted.

Parodies fall under the "just joking statutes" that allow comedians to slander people in the name of fun.

 

[bounty]

pirating on small scale (mix tapes) = good (how Metallica got fans)

pirating on large scale (napster) = bad (now mega-rich Metallica couldn't screw fans with crappy "Load")

Personally I think copyright is good and important, but the laws reguarding it need to change. P2P file sharers, need to be fined like up to 5x the price to buy what they copied + a price equal to what they can be proven to have distributed (full copies worth.) That would be enough to serve justice (for casual downloaders and willfull distributors) and motivate people to not infringe, but also not stupid draconian 80,000$ per song for Joe Average.

 

[neiroatopelcc]

[citation][nom]Eccentric909[/nom]Wrong.Metallica itself is known for doing covers; their original album Kill Em All included a couple of covers (Diamond Head's Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg's Blitzkrieg)[/citation]
I may've mixed up the release order of the two garage days albums, but having both of them, and kill em all, I'd like you to tell me why neither of those songs you mention are on my cd? Sure it's old and not scatch free, but I doubt a scratch can remove two songs?
I think the album with tits on the inside of the cover was the first of the garage days ones right? If you can confirm that, I'll go dig up the actual casing somewhere tomorrow and see what it's called.

In any event, garage days are way later than the first two albums (kill em all and ride the lightning). I think it was released after justice for all or something? At least I think to remember aquiring it later than that...

 

[Sicundercover]

Garage Days Rerevisited was released before And Justice for All it was also the first release with Jason Newsted. But both Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg were originally on Kill Em All but there are a few versions of the CD running around without them I think mostly just the Euro releases. However all of the Cassette and Vinel versions of the LP have both of the songs.

 

[neiroatopelcc]

Well I've got the euro version on cd, and they're not on that at least. I don't know if they're on my brothers vinyl version though, but I don't recall that either (some special edition)

 

[muedi]

It's interesting that the people who spend the most money on music are the same people who download the most music for free.

 

[neiroatopelcc]

[citation][nom]muedi[/nom]It's interesting that the people who spend the most money on music are the same people who download the most music for free.[/citation]
the illigal downloads are free promotion for the bands really - I'm aware that the record company doesn't earn anything that way, but then they didn't actaully earn the right to be paid anyway (since they didn't actually do any work).

I own legal versions of both lily allen albums in fact, and that despite the fact that I had aquired most of the tracks via other means in the first place.

 

[Guest]

I am a local roots and blues musician and I recently had an 18 year old girl tell me at one of my shows that she loved my music - so she was going to burn my CD and give it to her friends - as if that was a good thing. Yes, I might get exposure and her friends will hear me, but it won't help me buy food or pay my mortgage. Her friends MIGHT tell their friends about my music, but it still doesn't help me survive financially until they actually spend money on my music.

I spend at least 50 hours a week trying to book shows, writing music, updating my website, promoting shows, traveling to gigs, rehearsing, doing accounting, etc.

It sounds to me like most people I hear commenting on this page have NO IDEA how much WORK it is to make a living doing music. It is a craft that I love and that requires years of patience and hard work. I'll be damned if I would let some idiot remixer who has no idea about the etiology of blues and roots music, denigrate the art by using it in a dance remix and not giving proper props to the original creator.

I guess the main point is that 'owning what you create' is an important civil right (aka a 'copyright'). It is a right that fosters the development of personal crafts.

There will always be a large business attempting to sell something with mass appeal - but the responsibility ultimately rests with the audience. I don't blame the RIAA, or Sony, etc... they make money off of stupid people. If the public wants good music, the public must demand it and support it.