Problem Saving ReplayTV Formatted Files on Data DVD - Plea..

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:02:22 GMT, Steph
<CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in
>news:eqs3l0lcm3utm065p1e0neui5420u5jpep@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:28:18 -0800, "seahawk" <seahawk@gci.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It seemed so much
>>>simpler to just burn the ReplayTV files to DVD as data and not have to
>>>do so much work. Looks like I will have to bite the bullet and start
>>>authoring.
>>>
>>>BTW, it looks as if the files with the .evt extensions are the one's
>>>causing the problem.
>>
>> I still don't see why you'd have a problem with just one filetype. All
>> files are data files, and not really any different to the DVD-burning
>> program. Did you try copying then to another directory before burning?
>>
>
>Stupid question..... did you exit from DVA when you are trying to burn
>these? I am thinking maybe the JAVA has the EVT files open and might be
>causing your error.

I didn't quit DVA any of those times I tried burning the files. There
was never any error.

However, I did suspect it on his machine. One reason why I was asking
those questions about copying first, renaming .EVT files, etc...

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Steph wrote:
> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in
> news:eqs3l0lcm3utm065p1e0neui5420u5jpep@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:28:18 -0800, "seahawk" <seahawk@gci.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It seemed so much
>>> simpler to just burn the ReplayTV files to DVD as data and not have
>>> to do so much work. Looks like I will have to bite the bullet and
>>> start authoring.
>>>
>>> BTW, it looks as if the files with the .evt extensions are the one's
>>> causing the problem.
>>
>> I still don't see why you'd have a problem with just one filetype.
>> All files are data files, and not really any different to the
>> DVD-burning program. Did you try copying then to another directory
>> before burning?
>>
>
> Stupid question..... did you exit from DVA when you are trying to burn
> these? I am thinking maybe the JAVA has the EVT files open and might
> be causing your error.

Yes. Only the burning program was running. I would fire up the burning
program (Ulead Movie Factory 3) from a fresh boot and with only that
running, try to burn the DVD.




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Tony D wrote:
> seahawk wrote:
>
>> Joe Allison wrote:
>>
>>> If you have Nero, use NEROVISION to make the DVD. It works for me.
>>>
>>> seahawk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tony D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> DVD data disk. I'm just trying to do a straight backup of
>>>>>> ReplayTV files. I understand video authoring and do make DVD
>>>>>> video disks also successfully. I guess I'll have to try and
>>>>>> author the files and burn them to DVD video if I don't run into
>>>>>> a problem with the "low quality" recordings. Lot more work than
>>>>>> just backing them up to a DVD data disk when I have 150 episodes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Replay 5k files are "standard" mpeg 2 files. Std quality and Med
>>>>> quality recordings are compliant with DVDs. High quality
>>>>> recordings have higher bandwidth peaks than the DVD standard
>>>>> allows, so these may cause problems authoring to dvd.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just did what you are trying to do with Nero and it worked
>>>>> perfectly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have Nero but haven't installed it yet. Maybe I'll try that. BTW,
>>>> I'm not just burning the mpeg 2 files but also the 3 other files
>>>> (with endings .evt .ndx .xml). I'm pretty sure if I just burned the
>>>> mpeg 2 files it would work but it wouldn't work back on ReplayTV
>>>> later without restoring all four files for each video.
>>>>
>>>> When you did it with Nero, did you burn all associated files from
>>>> your Local_Guide folder?
>>
>>
>> I might install NERO and give it a try but I've already tried three
>> other programs with the same results. I can't imagine what could be
>> causing this but it appears as if the files with the .evt extension
>> are the problem childs. I can burn the other files types just fine
>> but it gags on the .evt files.
>>
>> Go figure.
>>
>>
> I burned all 4 file types to DVD data disk with no problem whatsoever.
> The evt files are the markers for commercial advance and show/nav.
> Your problem has nothing to do with the files.

So far, the only files I can't burn to a data DVD are the .evt files. I
still can't figure out why. I've had no trouble with any other file type
with ReplayTV files or any other type such as MP3 and DOC and whatever.

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:12:13 -0800, "seahawk" <seahawk@gci.net> wrote:

>Tony D wrote:
>> seahawk wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Allison wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you have Nero, use NEROVISION to make the DVD. It works for me.
>>>>
>>>> seahawk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tony D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> DVD data disk. I'm just trying to do a straight backup of
>>>>>>> ReplayTV files. I understand video authoring and do make DVD
>>>>>>> video disks also successfully. I guess I'll have to try and
>>>>>>> author the files and burn them to DVD video if I don't run into
>>>>>>> a problem with the "low quality" recordings. Lot more work than
>>>>>>> just backing them up to a DVD data disk when I have 150 episodes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Replay 5k files are "standard" mpeg 2 files. Std quality and Med
>>>>>> quality recordings are compliant with DVDs. High quality
>>>>>> recordings have higher bandwidth peaks than the DVD standard
>>>>>> allows, so these may cause problems authoring to dvd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just did what you are trying to do with Nero and it worked
>>>>>> perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Nero but haven't installed it yet. Maybe I'll try that. BTW,
>>>>> I'm not just burning the mpeg 2 files but also the 3 other files
>>>>> (with endings .evt .ndx .xml). I'm pretty sure if I just burned the
>>>>> mpeg 2 files it would work but it wouldn't work back on ReplayTV
>>>>> later without restoring all four files for each video.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you did it with Nero, did you burn all associated files from
>>>>> your Local_Guide folder?
>>>
>>>
>>> I might install NERO and give it a try but I've already tried three
>>> other programs with the same results. I can't imagine what could be
>>> causing this but it appears as if the files with the .evt extension
>>> are the problem childs. I can burn the other files types just fine
>>> but it gags on the .evt files.
>>>
>>> Go figure.
>>>
>>>
>> I burned all 4 file types to DVD data disk with no problem whatsoever.
>> The evt files are the markers for commercial advance and show/nav.
>> Your problem has nothing to do with the files.
>
>So far, the only files I can't burn to a data DVD are the .evt files. I
>still can't figure out why. I've had no trouble with any other file type
>with ReplayTV files or any other type such as MP3 and DOC and whatever.

According to the DVA documentation, it scans for .XML files. It it
kept anything open, it would be those.

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seahawk wrote:

> We record 25 hours of programing a week just on current programming (such as
> Jag, all three Law and Orders, Navy NCIS, Boston Legal, Joan of Arcadia, all
> three CSI's, Monk, Star Trek, Crossing Jordan). Anyway you get the idea. We
> only get to watch about 10 hours a week during the school year. The rest we
> save for summer vacation when all the weekly's are in re-runs. We watch the
> other first run episodes then. I can fill up the 600 gigs pretty fast. BTW,
> I record everything at medium quality so that's about 300 hours of storage
> available on 600 gigs. If you figure I'm saving 15 different programs times
> 26 episodes a calandar year, that's 390 hours not including movies and
> football. Trying to manage all of that around all of the Murder She Wrote
> and Ripley's programs is too much.


1: You need a really, really, really, really, really, really, really,
really big hard driver for that... I'd suggest a RAID array on your
DVArchive computer. 2: You might wish to consider STANDARD q

and 3, You can still get MONK, I really liked MONK but around here
they tended to run it hit and miss (A sure formula for cancellation if
ever one was written) Monk may be a defective detective but he always
got his criminal (not always his man, at least one time it was not the
butler.... It was the MAIDS!)

 

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seahawk wrote:

> Yes. Only the burning program was running. I would fire up the burning
> program (Ulead Movie Factory 3) from a fresh boot and with only that
> running, try to burn the DVD.

1: I think the ULEAD software only burns in DVD-Video format (won't
burn as MPG, Nero and Roxio will do that though

2: I think it does not like RePlay Mpegs if memory serves Unless you do
something like install Moonlight codecs.

I'd go with the suggestion to burn as MPEG to a DVD-Rw and then watch
using Power DVD in "Files" mode. that works, even w/o the Moonlight
codecs At least if you have a decent computer it works... But flaky on
my 366Mhz win-98se box but even here it usually works. And straight up
DVD ..... Well... if Power DVD is "a bit flaky" on RTV Mpgs... On
commercial DVD's it's Kelloggs.

 

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seahawk wrote:

>
> So far, the only files I can't burn to a data DVD are the .evt files. I
> still can't figure out why. I've had no trouble with any other file type
> with ReplayTV files or any other type such as MP3 and DOC and whatever.


One other idea... The 4 GIG wall (Not all software has a problem here)

 

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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:50:35 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>seahawk wrote:
>
>>
>> So far, the only files I can't burn to a data DVD are the .evt files. I
>> still can't figure out why. I've had no trouble with any other file type
>> with ReplayTV files or any other type such as MP3 and DOC and whatever.
>
>
>One other idea... The 4 GIG wall (Not all software has a problem here)

Which is why I asked about file sizes. Of course, that would be the
..MPG files, not the .EVT ones.

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John in Detroit wrote:
> seahawk wrote:
>
>> We record 25 hours of programing a week just on current programming
>> (such as Jag, all three Law and Orders, Navy NCIS, Boston Legal,
>> Joan of Arcadia, all three CSI's, Monk, Star Trek, Crossing Jordan).
>> Anyway you get the idea. We only get to watch about 10 hours a week
>> during the school year. The rest we save for summer vacation when
>> all the weekly's are in re-runs. We watch the other first run
>> episodes then. I can fill up the 600 gigs pretty fast. BTW, I record
>> everything at medium quality so that's about 300 hours of storage
>> available on 600 gigs. If you figure I'm saving 15 different
>> programs times 26 episodes a calandar year, that's 390 hours not
>> including movies and football. Trying to manage all of that around
>> all of the Murder She Wrote and Ripley's programs is too much.
>
>
> 1: You need a really, really, really, really, really, really, really,
> really big hard driver for that... I'd suggest a RAID array on your
> DVArchive computer. 2: You might wish to consider STANDARD q
>
> and 3, You can still get MONK, I really liked MONK but around here
> they tended to run it hit and miss (A sure formula for cancellation if
> ever one was written) Monk may be a defective detective but he always
> got his criminal (not always his man, at least one time it was not the
> butler.... It was the MAIDS!)

I have two raid arrays on my computer. Both are set to raid0. One is 300 gig
(two 150 gig sata drives) and the other is 400 gig (two ata133 drives). I
also have a separate 40 gig system drive. It is a P4 2.8 processor with a
dual memory asus motherboard. I use the dual memory architecture having 1/2
gig of pc2700 in each side. I am not underpowered for this but I still need
to offload sometimes.

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Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:12:13 -0800, "seahawk" <seahawk@gci.net> wrote:
>
>> Tony D wrote:
>>> seahawk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe Allison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you have Nero, use NEROVISION to make the DVD. It works for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> seahawk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DVD data disk. I'm just trying to do a straight backup of
>>>>>>>> ReplayTV files. I understand video authoring and do make DVD
>>>>>>>> video disks also successfully. I guess I'll have to try and
>>>>>>>> author the files and burn them to DVD video if I don't run into
>>>>>>>> a problem with the "low quality" recordings. Lot more work than
>>>>>>>> just backing them up to a DVD data disk when I have 150
>>>>>>>> episodes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Replay 5k files are "standard" mpeg 2 files. Std quality and Med
>>>>>>> quality recordings are compliant with DVDs. High quality
>>>>>>> recordings have higher bandwidth peaks than the DVD standard
>>>>>>> allows, so these may cause problems authoring to dvd.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just did what you are trying to do with Nero and it worked
>>>>>>> perfectly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Nero but haven't installed it yet. Maybe I'll try that.
>>>>>> BTW, I'm not just burning the mpeg 2 files but also the 3 other
>>>>>> files (with endings .evt .ndx .xml). I'm pretty sure if I just
>>>>>> burned the mpeg 2 files it would work but it wouldn't work back
>>>>>> on ReplayTV later without restoring all four files for each
>>>>>> video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you did it with Nero, did you burn all associated files from
>>>>>> your Local_Guide folder?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I might install NERO and give it a try but I've already tried three
>>>> other programs with the same results. I can't imagine what could be
>>>> causing this but it appears as if the files with the .evt extension
>>>> are the problem childs. I can burn the other files types just fine
>>>> but it gags on the .evt files.
>>>>
>>>> Go figure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I burned all 4 file types to DVD data disk with no problem
>>> whatsoever. The evt files are the markers for commercial advance
>>> and show/nav. Your problem has nothing to do with the files.
>>
>> So far, the only files I can't burn to a data DVD are the .evt
>> files. I still can't figure out why. I've had no trouble with any
>> other file type with ReplayTV files or any other type such as MP3
>> and DOC and whatever.
>
> According to the DVA documentation, it scans for .XML files. It it
> kept anything open, it would be those.

Those burn fine.

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seahawk wrote:


> I have two raid arrays on my computer. Both are set to raid0. One is 300 gig
> (two 150 gig sata drives) and the other is 400 gig (two ata133 drives). I
> also have a separate 40 gig system drive. It is a P4 2.8 processor with a
> dual memory asus motherboard. I use the dual memory architecture having 1/2
> gig of pc2700 in each side. I am not underpowered for this but I still need
> to offload sometimes.
>

It is not so much the power (you could do it with a 500 MHz P-2) but the
raid array size you need to increase...... What you need is more storage

Either that or burn to DVD every day as much as you can and stack them up

I use a 120 Gig external HD to store a lot of it in,,, Only problem is
my XP box would not recognize the blasted drive last night so I have to
use a 366 Mhz P2 to store the video on it... Which is ok cause it's that
same P2 that's going to play it back later.

By the way that 366 MHz P2 with Win 98se **IS** the minimum you would
want to use for playback. (you could slower still for storage but you
are running into some limits here... The P2 can store an hour's worth of
"Standard" in about fifty minutes time via the network)

 

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Mark Lloyd wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:50:35 GMT, John in Detroit
> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>seahawk wrote:
>>
>>
>>>So far, the only files I can't burn to a data DVD are the .evt files. I
>>>still can't figure out why. I've had no trouble with any other file type
>>>with ReplayTV files or any other type such as MP3 and DOC and whatever.
>>
>>
>>One other idea... The 4 GIG wall (Not all software has a problem here)
>
>
> Which is why I asked about file sizes. Of course, that would be the
> ..MPG files, not the .EVT ones.
>

I don't know why the Evt files would bother either.

One thing... If you use Power DVD as your player, and control things via
it's menus (do not use DV-Archive to play them) then ALL you need is
the MPG files. Though other files help with the indexing of the shows

But with modern windows you can have a file like CSI-Viva Los Vegal.mpg

Or "Medical Investigators-Escape.mpg (Show title-Episode title.mpg)

All you need for playback via Power DVD, or Elcard Moonlight, or Windows
Media Player or any of the other players (DVArchive does not, itself,
play, it calls a player) is the MPG file

 

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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:03:52 -0800, "seahawk" <seahawk@gci.net> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:12:13 -0800, "seahawk" <seahawk@gci.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Tony D wrote:
>>>> seahawk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Joe Allison wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have Nero, use NEROVISION to make the DVD. It works for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seahawk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tony D wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DVD data disk. I'm just trying to do a straight backup of
>>>>>>>>> ReplayTV files. I understand video authoring and do make DVD
>>>>>>>>> video disks also successfully. I guess I'll have to try and
>>>>>>>>> author the files and burn them to DVD video if I don't run into
>>>>>>>>> a problem with the "low quality" recordings. Lot more work than
>>>>>>>>> just backing them up to a DVD data disk when I have 150
>>>>>>>>> episodes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Replay 5k files are "standard" mpeg 2 files. Std quality and Med
>>>>>>>> quality recordings are compliant with DVDs. High quality
>>>>>>>> recordings have higher bandwidth peaks than the DVD standard
>>>>>>>> allows, so these may cause problems authoring to dvd.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just did what you are trying to do with Nero and it worked
>>>>>>>> perfectly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Nero but haven't installed it yet. Maybe I'll try that.
>>>>>>> BTW, I'm not just burning the mpeg 2 files but also the 3 other
>>>>>>> files (with endings .evt .ndx .xml). I'm pretty sure if I just
>>>>>>> burned the mpeg 2 files it would work but it wouldn't work back
>>>>>>> on ReplayTV later without restoring all four files for each
>>>>>>> video.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you did it with Nero, did you burn all associated files from
>>>>>>> your Local_Guide folder?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I might install NERO and give it a try but I've already tried three
>>>>> other programs with the same results. I can't imagine what could be
>>>>> causing this but it appears as if the files with the .evt extension
>>>>> are the problem childs. I can burn the other files types just fine
>>>>> but it gags on the .evt files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go figure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I burned all 4 file types to DVD data disk with no problem
>>>> whatsoever. The evt files are the markers for commercial advance
>>>> and show/nav. Your problem has nothing to do with the files.
>>>
>>> So far, the only files I can't burn to a data DVD are the .evt
>>> files. I still can't figure out why. I've had no trouble with any
>>> other file type with ReplayTV files or any other type such as MP3
>>> and DOC and whatever.
>>
>> According to the DVA documentation, it scans for .XML files. It it
>> kept anything open, it would be those.
>
>Those burn fine.

So you really need to try renaming the .EVT files to see if they burn
now. Change the extension to something else.

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