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<Jason> wrote in message news:r3hn91l7lahgdh8rdd25l8n3i0fja0h2rg@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 30 May 2005 01:27:40 GMT, Seth wrote:
>
>><Jason> wrote in message
>>news:18t791lvqp77vn89cc20f52truon1dv0hq@4ax.com...
>>> They *are* mis-named. The channels are demonstrably different,
>>> one being analog and undesirable quality with bad audio, the
>>> other being the desired quality and digital. This is the exact
>>> same reason that high def channels are named differently than
>>> their standard version, such as MAX and MAXHD, HBO and HBOHD and
>>> even HBOLAT (spanish broadcast, same program schedule, same
>>> quality as standard HBO).
>>
>>Are you sure that's the case for the O.P.? I was just in Florida this
>>weekend at my mom's house, and on her cable system the duplicate channels
>>(where there is a digital and analog version) have the SAME name. That
>>doesn't make them mis-named, Discovery is still Discovery regardless of it
>>being analog or digital.
>
> But the broadcast quality is cause enough for a difference in the
> channel name.
I'm not disputing that possibility. Just that's it's not TiVo's place to
make that distiction. That's the cable line-up as it is presented by the
cable company. In some places the digital version is worse that the analog
version. Which one should be recorded then?
TiVo can only go by the information provided to them by the cable companies
(in regard to channel line-up) and the Tribune Media (in regards to the
schedule). TiVo didn't misname any channels when it titled Digital HBO and
Analog HBO as "HBO". They have no way of knowing which is preferred in
market "A" and which in market "B".
> Wait a minute, on 5/23/2005 you posted:
>>That's because, as others have pointed out, the TiVo does not record by
>>channel number, but by channel designation. There is no recordable "ch
>>157"
>>internally to a TiVo. It is always a designation (i.e. WABC). Then, per
>>it's programming, starting at the ch 1, it hunts upward till it hits
>>"WABC"
>>and records.
Yup, I said that.
> And you think that those 2 channels should have the same
> designation/name/call letters/whatever you want to call it?
> Even though the OP could tell the difference between them from
> the quality level?
If the cable company says they have the same call letters, then yes, they
have the same call letter as far as TiVo is concerned.
> Are you trying to troll me?
If you say so...
> Explain why those 2 channels should not have a different set of
> letters, please. I'd like to know why an analog, a digital, and a
> high def broadcast of HBO should look like the exact same channel
> to TiVo.
Cause the cable company who provides the line-up says so. Take it up with
the cable company. In the meantime, if you find a channel that comes in 2x,
with varying degrees of wuality, go ahead and mark the one of lesser quality
as "not receivable" in the "Channels I receive" list. I lie to my TiVo
about a number of channels that I do receive but have them marked as not
received because for one reason or another, they're reception is not
desireable.
> Oh, and it starts at channel 0 and searches upward. Yes, my S2
> hits channel 0 - information "To Be Announced" - even though my
> cable box ignores the channel request.
oooh, you got me. I was off by 1 number value.
But why do you think TiVo thinks there is a channel "0". They made it up?
Or that's the line-up as provided by your cable company?
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