Rogert Ebert Apologizes for Game Discrimination

[g00fysmiley]

he was trying to do one thing with that statment. trying to stay relevant and get lots of publicity, guess what ... mission accomplished

as for his statments, i disagree and think games can be art but he is allowed to think whatever he wants, even if it is just a desprate plee for attention

 

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]Who cares whether games are art or not. They can consider games whatever they want and I'll still play games if they're fun.[/citation]

there actuall;y is a legal concern behind declaring games art or not art.under the US constitution ,All art is protected from censorship and or banning in any form or way. currently videogames are not legally counted as art , this means if uncle sam wished ,they could always step in and censor games at the federal level.

soemhtign that is art can be legaly "rated" such is the cae with movies, "fine arts" (paitnings sculptures, ect ect) are protected even and it is actually illegal to even rate those.this is why you can have art galleries that are open to all regardless of age ,while movies that are rated R are only for people over the age 18.movies and music aredefiend as art ,paitning ,sculptures, live plays and the like are defined as fine art ...video games ,and comic book companies are both still fighting to be legaly declared art.That is why opinions liket hese can raise tempers in those industries.

 

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]frozentundra123456[/nom]I think they are probably "art" in a loose sense of the word. I actually looked up the defiition of art. If you use the strict definition of art as an expression of the beauty of nature, then most games are not really art in that sense, although there may be artistic scenes present, the purpose of the game is usually not to display beauty. If you use the broader definition of art as skilled execution of a task, then games or thier programers clearly fit this definition.But does it really matter??? If you play games and enjoy them, does it matter what a critic says?? And if you dont play, then you probably dont care either.[/citation]


the strict definition of art is acutaly rather flawed . there is no real clear strait way to define what is art and what isn't. of coruse they avhe to come up with somethign simple to put in a dictionary entry , but such entries really don't define what "art" is ,it is just an effort to provide a vuage description that is easy for any one to grasp mentally,becausethisactuall subject could eat up libary volumes to debate . i had a logic class recently that really outlined this, my final papper for the class i had to argue what makes "good" art and what makes "bad" art. but in writing that paper i found i had to kind of agure what art is it'self ,to even begin discussing what make's this or that art good, sufficetosay my paper barely strached the topic of what art is in general.

my main point to this rant ,si thatyoucan'trelaly sue adictionarydefiniton in this sort of case ther are just to many factors.

 

[ksampanna]

He should start with Solitaire

 

[Hupiscratch]

For God' sake, there is a world famous urinol in some museum (I think it's in the Louvre) What it's art is a extremely personnal subject.

 

[v1ze]

Dated opinion from a dated source. Yawn.

 

[Strider-Hiryu_79]

"Patience is a virtue" Roger Ebert. Myst has paved the way for many of the platforming games(puzzle solving environment games) we see today.

Also here's another quote you most likely came across in your many years of your movie reviewing career, "think you before you speak".

 

[Regulas]

[citation][nom]Clintonio[/nom]@husker; You're right. They aren't. Nor is most music. Or most paintings. Most of it is all rehashes of crap we saw ages ago.I also don't ascribe to 'modern (bullshit) art'.[/citation]
Here here, I second that wise comment.

 

[cletus_slackjawd]

IMHO most original games are art in their own way. Most (all) traditional "art" like famous paintings, poets etc I just can't appreciate anyways, like I'd look at monolisa and think so what, I feel absolutely nothing for this, so I think the word "art" is highly personal. As for games, there is certainly, graphically speaking a lot of art in games.
As far a concept and storyline, ambiance, music, graphics my vote is for Silent Hill

 

[hixbot]

the soundtracks to the 8bit megaman games are pure art I don't care what anyone says.

 

[Guest]

Rare & pleasant to hear of a commentator of any kind who is willing to listen to & consider criticism & in this case to try out games recommended by others in order to test out his prejudice (I guess that's the right word for the view he originally expressed.) Go Ebert!