Sony Confirms Massive Data Breach Affecting 70 Million PlayStation Network Users

[jalek]

SCE =/= Sony Pictures or any other part of the company

Diverting isn't going to help your case, they still messed up.

 

[Trueno07]

Hmm, and the hackers were the good guys before all this went down.

Hackers, aside from the ones who just want to run linux or a few pirated games here and there are in it for the money. Nothing more, nothing less. They will do what ever it takes to steal the identities of millions in order to make money.

I don't understand how anyone could defend Geohot or any organization of hackers for what they have done to Sony, and it's law abiding consumers.

 

[wavebossa]

[citation][nom]Jalek[/nom]SCE =/= Sony Pictures or any other part of the companyDiverting isn't going to help your case, they still messed up.[/citation]

I'm not saying Sony didn't mess up.... I"m saying what good is a bankrupt to you or me or anyone? When you feel ready to answer this question, i'll be ready to listen.

 

[wavebossa]

I mean a bankrupt sony (no edit button)

Not to mention all this info out in the hands of hackers. Srsly am I missing something? If you want to give your information to hackers, I can show you a million easier ways to do it....

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]bejabbers[/nom]geohot cracked the algorithm that sony used to create the points used to buy games and content over the PSN. He then published the algorithm on a blog or something. Then he, and others, used the code to amass these points.You may think, wait these are worthless digital points. They aren't. These points have an associated monetary value (so if a game costs 500 points over the PSN, and costs $50 in stores, then each point is valued at $0.10) and by having an algorithm to give yourself more points, you are essentially stealing from that company. It's sort of like downloading a pirated game, except it's more like printing counterfeit money.[/citation]Who ever told you this lied, Geohot did nothing of the sort. He with the help of other hackers hacked Sony private key which enabled them to run software not allowed by Sony, like linux for example. He never released any kind of crack or hack that enabled the ps3 to run pirated games. Also to my knowledge the hack you're referring doesn't even exist.
[citation][nom]bejabbers[/nom]And back to the question of anonymous. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If these people actually call themselves hackers, they likely would have more tricks up their sleves than DDoS attacks, It probably took a while for them to crack into the PSN, which would explain why it took so long. If it wasn't, then it sounds like it's someone who has the same sort of values as these people.[/citation]Anon may call themselves hacker but they aren't. They're more like activists. Perhaps it crossed your mind that who ever did this has nothing against Sony and are perhaps doing this to steal money.

 

[wavebossa]

[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]Anon may call themselves hacker but they aren't. They're more like activists. Perhaps it crossed your mind that who ever did this has nothing against Sony and are perhaps doing this to steal money.[/citation]

Yeah its funny how people are completely skipping over the probability that MAYBE... JUST MAYBE the peole who did this are trying to steal info for money?

I bet all these people that are supporting this becasue they think its anon will be fully against it if they find it out its some unrelated hacker group who just wants to steal from people

Still amused...

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]Trueno07[/nom]Hmm, and the hackers were the good guys before all this went down.Hackers, aside from the ones who just want to run linux or a few pirated games here and there are in it for the money. Nothing more, nothing less. They will do what ever it takes to steal the identities of millions in order to make money.I don't understand how anyone could defend Geohot or any organization of hackers for what they have done to Sony, and it's law abiding consumers.[/citation]
Not all hacker hack to make money. Some do out of curiosity.
May I ask what geohot did do sony's law abiding consumers?

 

[sundevilchemist]

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[Guest]

what the bloody hell does geohot has to do with this, nothing absolutely nothing, and this was not perpetrated by hackers, it was perpetrated by criminals.

No one is defending the criminals, but we are questioning why it was so easy to compromise such sensitive data and why the bloody hell did it take so long for Sony to inform folks, if indeed they even know whats going on, doesn't matter if there was a slight chance they should have presumed the worst and allowed those affected to take early precautions

 

[compton]

Thanks for this. I can't help but blame Sony a little, even if it may be extraordinary circumstances -- and I while I own a PS3, I basically only use it to stream Netflix and play PS1 games. Good thing too -- I don't think its going to be back to normal now. You'd figure if this was some retaliatory strike someone would take credit for it. All I know is this: there are two giant assholes in this story - Sony and the jerkoff who did this.

 

[bobusboy]

[citation][nom]Hupiscratch[/nom]This doesn´t make sense. Is like saying it´s OK to shot an police officer just to show a flaw you found on his body armor.[/citation]

There are alot of "flaws" in your standard class II or III vest.....just saying....

 

[kinggraves]

[citation][nom]wavebossa[/nom]Wow 37 comments and only 1 actually blammed the hackers. You guys are like yeah "STICK TO THE MAN."But what exactly does the suffering of SONY do to help you? Yeah lets have sony and microsoft burn to ground and lets have Nintendo go away too, that will show them! Oh wait.. that only hurts the consumer. And if you are saying "Well I dont have a PS3 so sony doesn't effect me" than your dead wrong. Chances are you have watched a movie or will watch a movie (Thor) that woudln't have been possible without sony. Chances are most of the disc you have used to burn data are from sony. I can go on and on but why bother.I'm not saying that you have to love company, but this desire to see companies go down because "They make alot of money" or "they went after my beloved Geohot" is borderline masochistic. In the end, you will be hurt the most.---------------------------The funny thing is, the same people laughing at Sony for getting hacked are the people who, when they get a virus, are like "Damn you hackers! Do you have anything better to do with your lives than to make peoople suffer???"Ah tom's hardware members... you guys amuse me with your nonsense.[/citation]

Because no one would ever make new media formats or produce movies without Sony, right?

You ask what good Sony being hurt does to the consumer. I can answer that. Sony being hurt reminds them that they are not as omnipotent as most CEOs these days seem to think they are these days. Large corporations like this have no concern for the consumer, you are just a dollar sign to them. The people in charge have no clue what you as a consumer want, they only listen to statistics and focus groups. Sony is receiving so little pity over this because of the way they've treated the customer over the past several years. The PS3 has had advertised features removed, and a general attitude that they own the hardware we have paid for. I'm all for competition remaining to prevent monopoly situations, but if Sony's game division sunk, I wouldn't be so disappointed. Maybe they'll learn a lesson, or maybe someone would take their place. Either way, large corporations failing brings a space for new competition to rise, who would likely be more willing to please the consumer.

[citation][nom]Trueno07[/nom]Hmm, and the hackers were the good guys before all this went down.Hackers, aside from the ones who just want to run linux or a few pirated games here and there are in it for the money. Nothing more, nothing less. They will do what ever it takes to steal the identities of millions in order to make money.I don't understand how anyone could defend Geohot or any organization of hackers for what they have done to Sony, and it's law abiding consumers.[/citation]

Seriously where are you people getting all this incorrect information from? Is FoxNews covering this story for Sony or something? Geohotz restored previous functions that Sony removed, taking away features that they had sold the system on. Other people can use this to enable piracy, however Geo himself did not intend to enable piracy. This is why he is looked on as the "good guy", the robin hood of modders, taking from the corporate and giving to the gamer.

 

[damian86]

no sense, there is not even evidence. What do you think of this: Sony is really pssed off right now because they couldn't get a win wit geo in the court, so now they are calling it 'an external intrusion' by 'a hacker' . I think they are trying to say something to see if it works out for them and mr almighty can be in trouble...

That might be what they think, I mean, they don't really jump like this saying 'credit cards details might be stolen' to get everyone to panic, they wouldn't do that.

 

[Guest]

Even if it wasn't Anon or a fringe group of it, its the "blame by association". Fact that they caused some of the initial traffic issues was bad enough. Whether it was/wasn't them in this instance, you can't exactly say it looks good for them either.

This also does change things as this is now probably end up as federal/felony investigations and that's a bit worse for Anon as they'll probably get caught in the crossfire regardless of their involvement.

 

[sdeleon515]

@ Damian86

Technically Geo lost more in that battle than Sony and once credit information and actual credit info is taken, then it becomes more serious of an investigation. Based on the actual closing injunctions and statements made on the court case, being able to censor and limit Geo is really all they want and still has to bear the burden of his legal counsel so its a financial hit as well.

On the other end, as I've said over and over on these forums, the problem isn't homebrewing itself, its the piracy that typically follows it. Own a Nintendo DS/Wii? Homebrewed it? Well then how many games have you pirated? In fairness, as a consumer we may not agree with the price or the company, but we also have the option to buy or not buy a game. Now if we decide to pirate a game, well expect consequences for it.

 

[danwat1234]

Got spare CPU cycles? Don't be selfish now.
Your console is a super computer.

Use the insane power of the Cell Processor to help science. Download and install the Distributed Computing project called Folding@home to your PS3. Your console will greatly assist scientists in modelling the behavior of protein folding and will lead to more knowledge of diseases like cancer and diabetes.
Standford University needs thousand and thousands of PS3s in order to have enough computing power

 

[servarus]

[citation][nom]sdeleon515[/nom]@ Damian86Technically Geo lost more in that battle than Sony and once credit information and actual credit info is taken, then it becomes more serious of an investigation. Based on the actual closing injunctions and statements made on the court case, being able to censor and limit Geo is really all they want and still has to bear the burden of his legal counsel so its a financial hit as well. On the other end, as I've said over and over on these forums, the problem isn't homebrewing itself, its the piracy that typically follows it. Own a Nintendo DS/Wii? Homebrewed it? Well then how many games have you pirated? In fairness, as a consumer we may not agree with the price or the company, but we also have the option to buy or not buy a game. Now if we decide to pirate a game, well expect consequences for it.[/citation]
+1

LOL IMHO, the ones that are supporting Geohot are either:
1. Want Linux (for what? Don't you have a PC? Linux can run what? Browser?)
2. Want homebrew (seriously, inferior homebrew on PS3? What's the point?)
3. Want to play pirated games (The biggest problem.)

The ones supporting or don't care buy the games. kthxbye.

 

[agamemnon_71]

[citation][nom]zak_mckraken[/nom]Am I a bad person if this makes me giggle?[/citation]
Nope. And neither am I...hi hi hi

 

[x3style]

Sony Executive in the meeting: Good morning everyone we are now raising our alert to the "Oh Holy Mother of Shit,OMG WTF ROFLCOPTER!!!!!11oneoneeleven" level prepare for the fallout.

 

[stoogie]

who cares for the loss of your private information, Facebook gives it out for free. As for the credit card details, good if they use your card then u can trace them, and they will expose themselves. so i doubt very much that they will use ur money