Steve Jobs: Folks Who Want Porn Can Buy Android

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tinmann

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[citation][nom]proxy711[/nom]Sorry if you have a strong need for porn on the go with your Iphone you have bigger things to deal with other then iphone apps being rated G....like what excuse to tell the cop that catches you touching yourself in a bathroom stall.[/citation]

I have never tried to urinate hands free. That could be messy. Look officer no hands.
 

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[citation][nom]dannyaa[/nom]Huge Props to Steve. I fully support keeping porn off the iPhone.[/citation]

You mean off YOUR iPhone, right?
Nobody has to buy porn apps, its a personal choice, and Lord Jobs has (once again) removed that choice arbitrarily based on his own screwed up moral code. Remember, this is the guy who abandoned his daughter and her mother, then used the poor child's name to market the crappy 'lisa' computer.
He has no moral compass, he's just a control freak.
If I want porn on my phone, who is he to say otherwise provided the app meets apple's quality standards so it won't crash the device. Why ban the work of an author and then suddenly backflip when he wins the Pulitzer prize?
The apple approval process is far too opaque and too wrapped up with questionable morals to be of much use to me.
 

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Why do people here always think it has to be ideological when it comes to Apple's decisions? There's a much simpler answer. Apple is a corporation, just like any other. They have a brand image to define and maintain, and the image they're going for would clearly be tarnished by the existence of pornographic apps in its app store. We all know that if they allowed those types of apps the store would be full of them. The fact that they've designed a more tightly controlled system with an app approval process means that if they did allow these types of apps, they'd be implicitly condoning them and making them part of the iphone/ipad/itouch experience. That would definitely hurt the brand in the eyes of the 99.9% of the world that doesn't read thg and post absurd anti-mac rhetoric on these message boards. Apple isn't approving pornographic apps because they think that's the best move for the company. That's it... it's not some ideological thing. But once they've made that decision, it makes sense to paint it as such; in the eyes of the people who agree with their decision that further improves their brand image. In the words of Tom Hagen, "This is business, not personal."
 

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[citation][nom]dannyaa[/nom]Huge Props to Steve. I fully support keeping porn off the iPhone. It is sad to me that our culture has slipped so much from the times when pornography was a shameful thing to something that is widely supported and OKed. It's perverse and disgusting.Sex is beautiful because sex is about love. Porn takes out all other elements and responsibilities of love and highlights lust. It makes it all about gratifying one's self, which is the polar opposite of what love is supposed to be.Honestly, thank God for this. Porn in the App Store would just make the whole store and device trashy.[/citation]

Who in the world are you, Steve Jobs, or anyone else for that matter that has the right to tell someone what is "morally" right? Who are you to deem what is beautiful?

To me it isn't "morally" right to overcharge someone $1000 for a $500 PC. It isn't "morally" right to limit what I can do what something I paid for.
 

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[citation][nom]ceejer[/nom]Why do people here always think it has to be ideological when it comes to Apple's decisions? There's a much simpler answer. Apple is a corporation, just like any other. They have a brand image to define and maintain, and the image they're going for would clearly be tarnished by the existence of pornographic apps in its app store. We all know that if they allowed those types of apps the store would be full of them. The fact that they've designed a more tightly controlled system with an app approval process means that if they did allow these types of apps, they'd be implicitly condoning them and making them part of the iphone/ipad/itouch experience. That would definitely hurt the brand in the eyes of the 99.9% of the world that doesn't read thg and post absurd anti-mac rhetoric on these message boards. Apple isn't approving pornographic apps because they think that's the best move for the company. That's it... it's not some ideological thing. But once they've made that decision, it makes sense to paint it as such; in the eyes of the people who agree with their decision that further improves their brand image. In the words of Tom Hagen, "This is business, not personal."[/citation]

You know, your whole arguement goes out the window as soon as Jobs said "moral". Being "moral" is an ideological ideal.
 

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I'm down if you want to play hall monitor and keep porn out of people's hands. From a business perspective, I think it's a bad call...but Apple obviously markets well, so who am I to talk.

The point, I think, is that doing this is a lost cause. You can block porn (specific) apps, but unless you are filtering content on a browser app (or loads of others which offer access to adult content, i'd imagine)...you aren't really preventing any porn.

If this is just a "public stance" for marketing reasons...

The [potentially uninformed] parents buy these products for the kids...and people quote Jobs saying "We don't allow porn on our devices"...Apple looks good and Google looks like the facilitator. A little misleading, but potentially a wise move on Apple's part as far as marketing goes.

I don't have an iphone or ipad...am I just way off base?
 

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What exactly would a porn app entail anyway? Last I checked there was a lot of porn on the internet, and a sizable chunk of it was free. I understand the principle of the matter being censorship, and Apples ridiculous claims of moral responsibility. That said, even if Apple did allow porn apps, what would they provide over YouPorn for example?
 

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its really good to see someone in this world with a consience about what they create. porn is nothing but exploitation. it is wrong and being against it doesnt make one gay. it hurts not just the ones who perform by raping thier humanity, but all those lives that are ruined by viewing it.

every person has a moral responibility to everyone on the planet. children in africa dont die because there isnt enough food in africa, it is because being wealthier here in north america we have the money to rob them of it. terrorists dont hate us because of thier religious beliefs, they hate us because of ours. when we sit in our pews with an extra 50 to 100 pounds around our waist and say we believe that we should love our neighboor and help the poor, and then go to mc d's or some other restaurant for lunch we are just showing our hypocrisy. 20% of the world people use 80% of the worlds resources.

everyone in this comment section who is for porn only causes further societial collapse by feeding a selfish desire with money and resources that should be used to help others.

sorry for the rant, but it makes me sick when i see a positive move like Steve's being knocked as dumb thing to do.
 
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I just lost all respect for Jobs as a business man... Seriously, would a brainless response. Porn has always been big business and will always be big business, it's bigger on the internet and emerging tech than it was in decades past... For Jobs to dismiss it, well... he's lucky I'm not on his board of directors
 

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While I don't agree with the choice made by Jobs, it is his choice to make. Apple is a company and as such can decide to run its business any way they want to. Comparing him to Big Brother is kind of silly because he has no power at all if you choose not to buy Apple as aposed to a government, there is a matter of choice involved.

Don't like it? Dont buy it!

On the other hand, it is also your right to call him a douchebag or whatever you want :p I just love freedom of speech :)
 

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Whether it's porn or not is irrelevant. Imagine having your TV telling you what you can or cannot watch! Apple has great engineering but other companies are catching up but without the high prices and without the control-freakiness Apple demonstrates.
 
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The Apple browser receives porn just like any other... I don't know what all the flap is about. And it is very easy to "jailbreak" these Apple mobile devices, so you can get whatever app you wish. What's the big deal? Nobody can control the internet... not even Steve...
 

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"Sex is beautiful because sex is about love. Porn takes out all other elements and responsibilities of love and highlights lust. It makes it all about gratifying one's self, which is the polar opposite of what love is supposed to be."
Wow dannyaa , thats harsh.
1) When I was younger, I had sex. Not love. But lusty lusty sex
2) I am a husband and father now. And I love my wife very much. But my wife and I still enjoy lusty lusty sex dannyaa . LUSTY. We lust. Having sex is not all about making love. This is not a PBS mid day movie.
3) Who are you to decide that porn / lusty sex is bad and "Making love" as you describe it is the correct biological function? Ever masturbated? Are you in love with your hand?
 

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He is being big brother in his own apple universe though & i'm sure he would like 100% apple domination which would make him big brother, sure he has the right to do what he wants i just don't see the point, if it's moral ground like he says then why doesn't he ban porn from a mac, seems like double standards to me
 
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It's strange that Jobs believe he has moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone and zero responsibility for the Iphone being assembled in china by underpayed slave worker...

Also the strage foxxcom employee suicide seems not too be a problem for Jobs moral responsibility...

 
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