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Never would I try to suggest that the C4 would come close to the sound of
the Gefell. To be honest, a mic like that I will probably never lay eyes
nor ears on.

But just like you have found a little budget gem with the AT2020, the C4
pair is in the "increadible bang for buck" catagory. I believe the C4s puch
well above their weight.

To be dead honest Ty, I am comparing the C4s with mics in similar price
regions like the NT4, NT5, etc. To me the C4 is a league above mics in that
range. So to my somewhat uneducated ears they have a "wow factor" that my
other SUB $1000.00 mics don't. Hopefully that puts my comments into
perspective.

Bill Ruys.

"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 May 2005 07:37:40 -0400, Bill Ruys wrote
> (in article <9M1fe.4562$Od6.627089@news.xtra.co.nz>):
>
>> It was actually a number of posts from Ty himself over the years that
>> mentioned that the high-end of the C1 was distorted. Just do a google
>> group
>> search on "c1" and "ty".
>>
>> Bill.
>>
>> "Papanate" <nospamagain@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:427C4545.3DB1C4A0@nc.rr.com...
>>> Bill Ruys wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you've previously been
>>>> put off by the distorted high end of the C1, don't be put off.
>>>
>>> I think you may have a bad mic or a mismatch on your mic pre if you hear
>>> the top
>>> end of the C1 distorting.
>>>
>>> PapaNate
>
> Gentlemen (and Ladies),
>
> Let's make it real simple. Send me a C4 and I'll try to get a m296 back
> here
> to do a real comparison.
>
> Of the C1, C3, T3 mics sent me some years back. The C1 appealed to me
> more.
> All were slightly edgy and more noisy than I like. I spoke about it to the
> folks at SP back then.
>
> Mr. Casey and I have spoken on several occasions. It was he who suggested
> that his company was putting pressure on the Chinese to manufacture mics
> without these flaws and I wished him good luck. I also urged him to
> continue
> hammering the Chinese for the benefit of us all.
>
> I greatly appreciate the attentions drawn to Mr. Casey's comment. He has
> stepped over the line before and has apologized. I took it openly and
> write
> his comments off to him having a bad day and seeing my post didn't help.
>
> Having said that, the (more expensie) m296 Gefell omni may be the most
> stunning omni I have heard in an end address. Through my GML preamps, I
> was
> not prepared for the purity of this mic.
>
> There is no review of the m296 on my site, either because I couldn't get a
> commission to write it, or by accident. I'll have to look into it.
> Regardless, for those of you who have found the Schoeps cmc641 as "right
> sounding" as I have, the M296 will not disappoint.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other
> audiocentric
> stuff are at www.tyford.com
>
 

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Hello Ty and everyone,
Briefly,
What I said with regards to you suggesting my mic be used as a doorstop
is representative of what I would say were we having this type of
conversation in person. Talk of doorstops and wrapping catfish are not
fighting words where I come from. If you proclaim to all that I have
'stepped over the line and had to apologize' in the past, I'll take
your word for it. I am more likely to apologize for being out of line
than I am to bullishly not acknowledge when I am wrong, or have said
something unwarranted. As to you hearing the mics, let's take it
offline. I have some concerns that I think we should clear up before
going any further.
Bill Ruys and anyone else, I am very glad that you are getting good use
out of the mics.
Lorin, (Son Of Mr. Schultz), please put away the big guns, with regards
to calling my Mom. The last thing I need is to be grounded.


Regards,

Brent Casey
PMI Audio Group
877-563-6335
 
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On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:19:29 -0400, Brent@pmiaudio.com wrote
(in article <1115662769.925149.198470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

> Hello Ty and everyone,
> Briefly,
> What I said with regards to you suggesting my mic be used as a doorstop
> is representative of what I would say were we having this type of
> conversation in person. Talk of doorstops and wrapping catfish are not
> fighting words where I come from. If you proclaim to all that I have
> 'stepped over the line and had to apologize' in the past, I'll take
> your word for it. I am more likely to apologize for being out of line
> than I am to bullishly not acknowledge when I am wrong, or have said
> something unwarranted. As to you hearing the mics, let's take it
> offline. I have some concerns that I think we should clear up before
> going any further.
> Bill Ruys and anyone else, I am very glad that you are getting good use
> out of the mics.
> Lorin, (Son Of Mr. Schultz), please put away the big guns, with regards
> to calling my Mom. The last thing I need is to be grounded.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Brent Casey
> PMI Audio Group
> 877-563-6335
>

I took your apology as the act of a gentleman. I don't really recall the
exact situation.

So should I expect the mics or not?

Regards,

Ty Ford

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On Mon, 9 May 2005 22:14:37 -0400, Ty Ford wrote
(in article <pNudnb2cJ9s-ih3fRVn-gg@comcast.com>):

> On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:19:29 -0400, Brent@pmiaudio.com wrote
> (in article <1115662769.925149.198470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):
>
>> Hello Ty and everyone,
>> Briefly,
>> What I said with regards to you suggesting my mic be used as a doorstop
>> is representative of what I would say were we having this type of
>> conversation in person. Talk of doorstops and wrapping catfish are not
>> fighting words where I come from. If you proclaim to all that I have
>> 'stepped over the line and had to apologize' in the past, I'll take
>> your word for it. I am more likely to apologize for being out of line
>> than I am to bullishly not acknowledge when I am wrong, or have said
>> something unwarranted. As to you hearing the mics, let's take it
>> offline. I have some concerns that I think we should clear up before
>> going any further.
>> Bill Ruys and anyone else, I am very glad that you are getting good use
>> out of the mics.
>> Lorin, (Son Of Mr. Schultz), please put away the big guns, with regards
>> to calling my Mom. The last thing I need is to be grounded.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Brent Casey
>> PMI Audio Group
>> 877-563-6335
>>
>
> I took your apology as the act of a gentleman. I don't really recall the
> exact situation.
>
> So should I expect the mics or not?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
> -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
> stuff are at www.tyford.com
>

I emailed off list. So far, no reply.

Ty

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Well, Brent could be busy getting ready for the AES in Barcelona.

I know I am!

JP

"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:s5-dncx-7ZfyYhzfRVn-1A@comcast.com...
> On Mon, 9 May 2005 22:14:37 -0400, Ty Ford wrote
> (in article <pNudnb2cJ9s-ih3fRVn-gg@comcast.com>):
>
> > On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:19:29 -0400, Brent@pmiaudio.com wrote
> > (in article <1115662769.925149.198470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):
> >
> >> Hello Ty and everyone,
> >> Briefly,
> >> What I said with regards to you suggesting my mic be used as a doorstop
> >> is representative of what I would say were we having this type of
> >> conversation in person. Talk of doorstops and wrapping catfish are not
> >> fighting words where I come from. If you proclaim to all that I have
> >> 'stepped over the line and had to apologize' in the past, I'll take
> >> your word for it. I am more likely to apologize for being out of line
> >> than I am to bullishly not acknowledge when I am wrong, or have said
> >> something unwarranted. As to you hearing the mics, let's take it
> >> offline. I have some concerns that I think we should clear up before
> >> going any further.
> >> Bill Ruys and anyone else, I am very glad that you are getting good use
> >> out of the mics.
> >> Lorin, (Son Of Mr. Schultz), please put away the big guns, with regards
> >> to calling my Mom. The last thing I need is to be grounded.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Brent Casey
> >> PMI Audio Group
> >> 877-563-6335
> >>
> >
> > I took your apology as the act of a gentleman. I don't really recall the
> > exact situation.
> >
> > So should I expect the mics or not?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ty Ford
> >
> > -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other
audiocentric
> > stuff are at www.tyford.com
> >
>
> I emailed off list. So far, no reply.
>
> Ty
>
> -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other
audiocentric
> stuff are at www.tyford.com
>
 
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On Wed, 11 May 2005 08:55:55 -0400, Ty Ford wrote
(in article <s5-dncx-7ZfyYhzfRVn-1A@comcast.com>):

We are talking

Ty




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