The Internet is Running Out of Space

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niteshadow53

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That's kind of scary when you think about it... Why didn't anyone think that we might need more than 4 billion addresses? And now that we do, what's stopping us from switching to ivp6 or whatever it was?
 

qwed88

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Maybe the internet will have a global flood, of porn popups, and we'll all have to hitch a ride on giant internet arks....
 

NapoleonDK

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I took the Cisco CCNA certification classes through my high school, and even our junky hand-me-down routers and switches supported IPv6... 4 years ago! I'm actually a bit surprised that IPv6 adoption is only at 6%.

For the record...
IPv4 looks like 192.168.1.1 and is made up of 4 groups of 8 bits (0's and 1's).
IPv6 looks like 1E73:BC1D:59C7:9CF4:19AF:98B2:D2C8 and is made up of 8 groups of 16 bits.

I can only speculate on why someone wouldn't want to adopt such a fascinatingly overcomplicated numerical system. ;)
 

2zao

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this actually means we have used way more than 4 billion addresses... just around 4 billion "unique address"

IPv4 is
4,294,967,296
unique addresses

IPv6 is
281,474,976,710,656
Unique addesses

we actually have more address being used in IPv4 that stated above due to private addresses like the ones you have in your home (192.168.x.x) that are non-routable... businesses have their own class A and class B non-routable addresses also

We would have ran out before now if it wouldnt have been for these non-routable addresses being put into effect.

IPv6 needs to roll out... all new hardware supports it (for years now) and there are many advantages to IPv6, just so many companies need to upgrade hardware or maybe just take the time to do the switch.

companies are always slow when it comes to change they should have already addressed.
 

Firehead2k

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what's stopping us from switching to ivp6 or whatever it was?
Same thing Apple does with each generation of iSomething. They have the technology, but leaving stuff out on purpose so people buy the new version. Same thing will happen when IPv6 goes to the consumer market, all modems, routers, NICs, etc will carry the nice lable "IPv6 compliant".
 

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[citation][nom]2zao[/nom]this actually means we have used way more than 4 billion addresses... just around 4 billion "unique address"IPv4 is4,294,967,296unique addressesIPv6 is281,474,976,710,656Unique addesseswe actually have more address being used in IPv4 that stated above due to private addresses like the ones you have in your home (192.168.x.x) that are non-routable... businesses have their own class A and class B non-routable addresses also We would have ran out before now if it wouldnt have been for these non-routable addresses being put into effect.IPv6 needs to roll out... all new hardware supports it (for years now) and there are many advantages to IPv6, just so many companies need to upgrade hardware or maybe just take the time to do the switch.companies are always slow when it comes to change they should have already addressed.[/citation]
I think this is right in saying 'the internet'. Since, the internet is generally defined as the locations on the overall WAN. My laptop is under one of those locations, but since it has no unique IP, it's not a direct part of the internet.

That's how I would see it.

My router on the other hand; is.

Also; Can't wait to get my first IPv6 router. I just want that piece of mind.
 

bison88

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This is a classic example of the bandaid on the wound. If you pull it off slow it hurts like hell and drags the agony on for a prolonged amount of time; however, if you pull it quickly it still hurts like HELL but subsides far quicker.

We just need to pull the switch and if shit hits the fan pick 'er up as we move along. I'm sure Corporations and Governments are the big ones holding that method back given 16% of the world still uses 10 year old IE6 :facepalm:
 

Gin Fushicho

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mere months before the world will come to an end.

Seriously? SERIOUSLY?! People are still taking that seriously? if I'm going to die in 2012 then something good better happen to me before then, because so far life has seemed fit to punish me.

AHEM.... as for the whole internet running out of space thing... hurry up and jump to IPv6... it has more space. and has built in capabilities that v4 doesn't.

I personally think ISP's don't want to do it because with more availability means it SHOULD cost less.
 

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I seem to remember a quote saying that we would never need more than 640k of memory. Look how that turned out. IPv6 FTW guys. get with it.
 

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I would like to know who first started "OMGz the Worldz going to end!! Oh Nooezzz". It's getting a little old when people still think it's going to end or too lazy to look up what is actually going to happen. SIGH...........
 

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[citation][nom]niteshadow53[/nom]That's kind of scary when you think about it... Why didn't anyone think that we might need more than 4 billion addresses? And now that we do, what's stopping us from switching to ivp6 or whatever it was?[/citation]
Do you remember Y2K? That was where the first programmers only allocated for a two digit year instead of a four digit year. They did this because they didn't think that these new-fangled computers would be around to see the year 2000 so why make it possible to display a date past '99? This the same situation. At the time that the addressing protocol was developed they assumed that 4 billion was more than enough addresses.

As for why ISPs are slow to switch over, the equipment to translate between IPv4 and IPv6 costs money. And nobody likes spending money.
 
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