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It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
dumped in Iraq
Makes one proud to be a American
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George Gleason <g.p.gleason@att.net> wrote:
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>It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
>and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
>"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
>dumped in Iraq
>Makes one proud to be a American

It's good stuff, actually. It's extremely dense, and while it's a little
more toxic than lead (mostly because of slightly better solubility), it is
no more radioactive than a brick and a bit less radioactive than a cigarette.

Back on the audio thread, depleted uranium fragments are great for speaker
stands and mounts. You get a good bit more weight per unit volume than you
do with lead shot. I've used the stuff on Altec A-5s as a quick and dirty
way of dealing with cabinet resonances.
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<<It's good stuff, actually. >>

Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to play
with?
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Mark Steven Brooks <elaterium@aol.com> wrote:
><<It's good stuff, actually. >>
>
>Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to play
>with?

Just like lead, it's a heavy metal and it's bad for kids to play with
unsupervised. You should wash your hands after handling it, just like
working with solder.

I have a couple bags in the garage but if you want to send over some more,
I am sure it will come in handy for my new turntable plinth. I have sold
my old Fairchild table on Ebay and need to figure out a solid mount for
a 16" Sony broadcast platter.
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kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message news:<cmg68k$pr$1@panix2.panix.com>...
> Mark Steven Brooks <elaterium@aol.com> wrote:
> ><<It's good stuff, actually. >>
> >
> >Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to play
> >with?
>
> Just like lead, it's a heavy metal and it's bad for kids to play with
> unsupervised. You should wash your hands after handling it, just like
> working with solder.
>
> I have a couple bags in the garage but if you want to send over some more,
> I am sure it will come in handy for my new turntable plinth. I have sold
> my old Fairchild table on Ebay and need to figure out a solid mount for
> a 16" Sony broadcast platter.
> --scott


How about if we vapourize it near your kid's school?

It takes on quite a differant charchter when vapourized; like when it
used with explosiceves and explodes. The international courts have it
banned as a "weapon of Mass Destruction" . That's part of the reason
Bush won't let the US be a signatory to the international convention
on war crimes. He almost slipped up in one of the debates saying that
"We don't want a Court bringing our soldiers to ----Justice". He
replaced the word "justice" with some sort of nonsensicle phrase.

And the Depleted Uranium talk has happened in RAP a few times, and
someone will point that that league of republican scientists that
don't believe in Global warming, evolution or other such northern
liberal wine wipping concepts.

They are the same ones that said lead preservatives in vaccines are
"Good For You". Lead causes brain damage, depleted uranium causes
cancer.

And to anyone who says differant I will pay you $5. Euros for every
10g you eat of powderd depleted Uranium. Go Ahead, feed it to your
kids.
 
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On 5 Nov 2004 10:16:44 -0500, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>George Gleason <g.p.gleason@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
>>and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
>>"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
>>dumped in Iraq
>>Makes one proud to be a American
>
>It's good stuff, actually. It's extremely dense, and while it's a little
>more toxic than lead (mostly because of slightly better solubility), it is
>no more radioactive than a brick and a bit less radioactive than a cigarette.

It's OK until you fire it down a gun barrel at high velocity and then
bang it into armor plating. Some of it tends to get finely pulverized
and oxidized. If you inhale the dust, that's bad. Worse than lead, in
that respect, because it's more toxic.

So you don't want to be on a battlefield where it's being used. Come
to think of it, you probably don't want to be on a battlefield,
period. As a turntable weight, it's probably as safe as lead.

Mike T.
 
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Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> Mark Steven Brooks <elaterium@aol.com> wrote:
>><<It's good stuff, actually. >>
>>
>>Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to play
>>with?

> Just like lead, it's a heavy metal and it's bad for kids to play with
> unsupervised. You should wash your hands after handling it, just like
> working with solder.

> I have a couple bags in the garage but if you want to send over some more,
> I am sure it will come in handy for my new turntable plinth. I have sold
> my old Fairchild table on Ebay and need to figure out a solid mount for
> a 16" Sony broadcast platter.

See?...Do not argue with a rocket scientist. Scott really is a rocket
scientist, and people would be wise not to try to argue on knowledge
with him.

Stick with the "Dorsey is a pig" tactic, because you can't argue with
pure stupidity.

Rob R.
 
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George Gleason wrote:

> It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
> and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
> "sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
> dumped in Iraq
> Makes one proud to be a American

Sorry George but depleted uranium isn't 'nuclear waste' other than maybe
that it's no good ( waste ? ) for use in nuclear reactors since it isn't
fissile.

It's used for armour piercing shells on account of its high mass.


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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Mark Steven Brooks <elaterium@aol.com> wrote:
> ><<It's good stuff, actually. >>
> >
> >Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to
play
> >with?
>
> Just like lead, it's a heavy metal and it's bad for kids to play with
> unsupervised. You should wash your hands after handling it, just like
> working with solder.
>
> I have a couple bags in the garage but if you want to send over some more,
> I am sure it will come in handy for my new turntable plinth. I have sold
> my old Fairchild table on Ebay and need to figure out a solid mount for
> a 16" Sony broadcast platter.

Ummm, Scott... where do you get depleted uranium? Surely not at the corner
hardware store, right?

-jw
 
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Pooh Bear wrote:
>
> George Gleason wrote:
>
>
>>It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
>>and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
>>"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
>>dumped in Iraq
>>Makes one proud to be a American
>
>
> Sorry George but depleted uranium isn't 'nuclear waste' other than maybe
> that it's no good ( waste ? ) for use in nuclear reactors since it isn't
> fissile.
>
> It's used for armour piercing shells on account of its high mass.
>
>
> Graham
>
>
>
I know very little about the material
only relating what was presented by the history channel program
They "implied" it was spent fuel from reactors
George
 
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In article <E7Sid.846668$Gx4.660968@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
George Gleason <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Pooh Bear wrote:
> >
> > George Gleason wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
> >>and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
> >>"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
> >>dumped in Iraq
> >>Makes one proud to be a American
> >
> >
> > Sorry George but depleted uranium isn't 'nuclear waste' other than maybe
> > that it's no good ( waste ? ) for use in nuclear reactors since it isn't
> > fissile.
> >
> > It's used for armour piercing shells on account of its high mass.
> >
> >
> > Graham
> >
> >
> >
> I know very little about the material
> only relating what was presented by the history channel program
> They "implied" it was spent fuel from reactors
> George


More likely produced in the refining process to create nuclear fuel. It is
depleted of the fissile isotope.

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"George Gleason" <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I know very little about the material

Seems like a good reason to not write a lot about it.

> only relating what was presented by the history channel program
> They "implied" it was spent fuel from reactors

http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/june2003/depleted_uranium_the_new_nuclear_threat.htm

"Depleted uranium (DU) is a by-product caused by extracting fissionable
isotopes (uranium 234 and 235) from natural uranium (238) for use in nuclear
weapons and reactors. "

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/faq_17apr.htm

"Depleted uranium is what is left over when most of the highly radioactive
types (isotopes) of uranium are removed for use as nuclear fuel or nuclear
weapons. The depleted uranium used in armor-piercing munitions and in
enhanced armor protection for some Abrams tanks is also used in civilian
industry, primarily for stabilizers in airplanes and boats."
 
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George Gleason wrote:

> Pooh Bear wrote:
> >
> > George Gleason wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
> >>and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
> >>"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
> >>dumped in Iraq
> >>Makes one proud to be a American
> >
> >
> > Sorry George but depleted uranium isn't 'nuclear waste' other than maybe
> > that it's no good ( waste ? ) for use in nuclear reactors since it isn't
> > fissile.
> >
> > It's used for armour piercing shells on account of its high mass.
> >
> >
> > Graham
>
>
> I know very little about the material
> only relating what was presented by the history channel program
> They "implied" it was spent fuel from reactors

They were talking out of their arseholes and should have known better ( clearly
no research done ).

Depleted Uranium is actually a 'refined' product rather than waste !

Having said that, when a depleted uranium tipped shell is fired at something -
you get fine particles of uranium / uranium oxide formed that's pretty
unhealthy to breathe in. Has been speculatively implicated in 'Gulf War
syndrome'.


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"Nmm" <voxman@arvotek.net> wrote in message
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> kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message
news:<cmg68k$pr$1@panix2.panix.com>...
> > Mark Steven Brooks <elaterium@aol.com> wrote:
> > ><<It's good stuff, actually. >>
> > >
> > >Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to
play
> > >with?
> >
> > Just like lead, it's a heavy metal and it's bad for kids to play with
> > unsupervised. You should wash your hands after handling it, just like
> > working with solder.
> >
> > I have a couple bags in the garage but if you want to send over some
more,
> > I am sure it will come in handy for my new turntable plinth. I have
sold
> > my old Fairchild table on Ebay and need to figure out a solid mount for
> > a 16" Sony broadcast platter.
> > --scott
>
>
> How about if we vapourize it near your kid's school?

How will you do that?
>
> It takes on quite a differant charchter when vapourized; like when it
> used with explosiceves and explodes. The international courts have it
> banned as a "weapon of Mass Destruction" .

Cite? And how can it be a WMD? What's your delivery method for affecting
hundreds and thousands of people? A flat file?


> They are the same ones that said lead preservatives in vaccines are
> "Good For You".

Cite?

> Lead causes brain damage, depleted uranium causes
> cancer.

So don't eat it.
>
> And to anyone who says differant I will pay you $5. Euros for every
> 10g you eat of powderd depleted Uranium. Go Ahead, feed it to your
> kids.

Is sulfur a WMD? I sure wouldn't eat 10g of it, either. I wouldn't eat 10g
of dog feces for five Euros, but it's hardly a danger. Would you eat that
much lead?

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Nmm wrote:

> kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message news:<cmg68k$pr$1@panix2.panix.com>...
> > Mark Steven Brooks <elaterium@aol.com> wrote:
> > ><<It's good stuff, actually. >>
> > >
> > >Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to play
> > >with?
> >
> > Just like lead, it's a heavy metal and it's bad for kids to play with
> > unsupervised. You should wash your hands after handling it, just like
> > working with solder.
> >
> > I have a couple bags in the garage but if you want to send over some more,
> > I am sure it will come in handy for my new turntable plinth. I have sold
> > my old Fairchild table on Ebay and need to figure out a solid mount for
> > a 16" Sony broadcast platter.
> > --scott
>
> How about if we vapourize it near your kid's school?
>
> It takes on quite a differant charchter when vapourized; like when it
> used with explosiceves and explodes. The international courts have it
> banned as a "weapon of Mass Destruction" . That's part of the reason
> Bush won't let the US be a signatory to the international convention
> on war crimes.

The UK uses DU shells but has no problem on that account.

I have some problem believing " The international courts have it banned as a "weapon of
Mass Destruction".

What's your source ? Reliable ?


> He almost slipped up in one of the debates saying that
> "We don't want a Court bringing our soldiers to ----Justice". He
> replaced the word "justice" with some sort of nonsensicle phrase.
>
> And the Depleted Uranium talk has happened in RAP a few times, and
> someone will point that that league of republican scientists that
> don't believe in Global warming, evolution or other such northern
> liberal wine wipping concepts.
>
> They are the same ones that said lead preservatives in vaccines are
> "Good For You". Lead causes brain damage, depleted uranium causes
> cancer.
>
> And to anyone who says differant I will pay you $5. Euros for every
> 10g you eat of powderd depleted Uranium. Go Ahead, feed it to your
> kids.

I'll remind you of the dangers of beryllium. Hasn't stopped it being used in power
semiconductors or esoteric tweeters.


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Scott Dorsey wrote:

> George Gleason <g.p.gleason@att.net> wrote:
>
>>It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
>>and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
>>"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
>>dumped in Iraq
>>Makes one proud to be a American
>
>
> It's good stuff, actually. It's extremely dense, and while it's a little
> more toxic than lead (mostly because of slightly better solubility), it is
> no more radioactive than a brick and a bit less radioactive than a cigarette.

Is its melting point low like lead?


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John Washburn wrote:

> where do you get depleted uranium?

From Viagra recyclers.

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Arny Krueger wrote:
> "George Gleason" <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:E7Sid.846668$Gx4.660968@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>
>
>>I know very little about the material
>
>
> Seems like a good reason to not write a lot about it.

>
That is why I wrote very little and claimed no expertize or desire to
become the authoritive voice on depleted Uraninium
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"Glenn Dowdy" <glenn.no.dowdy@hpspam.com> wrote in message news:<uxTid.2475$1i3.1941@news.cpqcorp.net>...
> "Nmm" <voxman@arvotek.net> wrote in message
> news:d1a1b33a.0411051438.62842929@posting.google.com...
> > kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message
> news:<cmg68k$pr$1@panix2.panix.com>...
> > > Mark Steven Brooks <elaterium@aol.com> wrote:
> > > ><<It's good stuff, actually. >>
> > > >
> > > >Then you won't mind if we ship some over to your house for your kids to
> play
> > > >with?
> > >
> > > Just like lead, it's a heavy metal and it's bad for kids to play with
> > > unsupervised. You should wash your hands after handling it, just like
> > > working with solder.
> > >
> > > I have a couple bags in the garage but if you want to send over some
> more,
> > > I am sure it will come in handy for my new turntable plinth. I have
> sold
> > > my old Fairchild table on Ebay and need to figure out a solid mount for
> > > a 16" Sony broadcast platter.
> > > --scott
> >
> >
> > How about if we vapourize it near your kid's school?
>
> How will you do that?

Does it matter how? You realy don't want your kids breathing it do
you.


> >
> > It takes on quite a differant charchter when vapourized; like when it
> > used with explosiceves and explodes. The international courts have it
> > banned as a "weapon of Mass Destruction" .
>
> Cite? And how can it be a WMD?

I think it's use was reffered to as "genocidal" , another part of
America avoiding the World Courts, and International War crimes
tribunals ( Rome Accord ).

> What's your delivery method for affecting
> hundreds and thousands of people? A flat file?
>

I;m not trying to do this. If you need a sceme to do this, there is
something wrong here.

>
> > They are the same ones that said lead preservatives in vaccines are
> > "Good For You".
>
> Cite?
>

It was peice that CBS news sent out to all it's local affiliates. It
stated that "Lead Preservatives used in vaccines are actually <<good
for you>>". It was picked up by www.prisonplanet.com Alex Jone's
website. He is just reporting what CBS said, if you don't trust Alex
Jones. Obviously Lead is not "Good For You".


> > Lead causes brain damage, depleted uranium causes
> > cancer.
>
> So don't eat it.
> >

yes I wouldn't recomend that. I would also say you shouldn't breath
in the dust, though if you are within 1000 miles of Kabul, Baghdad,
Bosnia, and other places where people are dropping shells made of DU


> > And to anyone who says differant I will pay you $5. Euros for every
> > 10g you eat of powderd depleted Uranium. Go Ahead, feed it to your
> > kids.
>
> Is sulfur a WMD?

no sulfer actually kills bacteria and is used in medicines, or was
until penicillian was discovered.
Chlorine is considered a WMD apparently and that's why millions died
of disentry in Iraq because they couldn't purify their water.

> I sure wouldn't eat 10g of it, either. I wouldn't eat 10g
> of dog feces for five Euros, but it's hardly a danger. Would you eat that
> much lead?
>

The Dog feces is more of a Fear Factor stunt, not something that you
would want to eat, but rather harmless, unless the dog has worms. I'd
say eating 10g of powdered Depleted Uranium would be enough to make
some one really sick with serious long term health effects. The "what
would you eat for $5 Euros"is beside the point. Would you eat 10g or
powdered DU?



http://www.thepowerhour.com/articles/du_effects.htm


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B93DF501-832A-423B-9E33-5F4325676A46.htm
 
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Bob Cain <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote:
>Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> George Gleason <g.p.gleason@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>It seems the US government has been loading bombs with depleted uranium
>>>and dropping them on Iraq ,According to a History Channel show
>>>"sworn to secrecy" so far 630 THOUSAND TONS of nuke waste has been
>>>dumped in Iraq
>>>Makes one proud to be a American
>>
>> It's good stuff, actually. It's extremely dense, and while it's a little
>> more toxic than lead (mostly because of slightly better solubility), it is
>> no more radioactive than a brick and a bit less radioactive than a cigarette.
>
>Is its melting point low like lead?

It's not quite as low as lead and it's not quite as soft, but it's close.
It's very ductile, not brittle.

And yes, it will kill you. That's the whole point of bullets.
--scott

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