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I don't understand. You rip Sony for basically copying the Wii controller with the Move, yet you don't mention the fact that Sony, successful or not, tried this with the Eye Toy during the last console generation. I mean at least be fair and point out all the facts when making your argument.
I do not own a 360 not because of any misguided loyalty to a bunch of millionaires that don't do shit for me, it's just because I guess I'm a creature of habit. Sony in my mind has a great library and the free online capabilities helps too.
I will one day buy a 360, probably when they bundle the Natal. I am impressed with the technology (even though it's been done) and I just hate missing any new technology. I think they may be right about it being the future of gaming, but I don't see this one being a success. Like all ideas ahead of their time people will laugh and say they're crazy.
If Micro. has the balls to stick it out maybe it will be big for the next generation. For this one I gotta give the edge to Sony's Move. You have to ease people into the idea of something so new and foreign, by combining the Move with the camera they're doing just that. Maybe the PS4 will have it's own version of the Natal, then everyone can scream about how they are copying Micro's last gen tech. Only difference is they won't have suffered the embarrassment and failure of releasing it to soon.
I do not own a 360 not because of any misguided loyalty to a bunch of millionaires that don't do shit for me, it's just because I guess I'm a creature of habit. Sony in my mind has a great library and the free online capabilities helps too.
I will one day buy a 360, probably when they bundle the Natal. I am impressed with the technology (even though it's been done) and I just hate missing any new technology. I think they may be right about it being the future of gaming, but I don't see this one being a success. Like all ideas ahead of their time people will laugh and say they're crazy.
If Micro. has the balls to stick it out maybe it will be big for the next generation. For this one I gotta give the edge to Sony's Move. You have to ease people into the idea of something so new and foreign, by combining the Move with the camera they're doing just that. Maybe the PS4 will have it's own version of the Natal, then everyone can scream about how they are copying Micro's last gen tech. Only difference is they won't have suffered the embarrassment and failure of releasing it to soon.
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the guy who wrote this has no idea what he's talking about and is obviously a weird xbox fan, you actually think that piece of crap natal will sell, gimme a break.
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All Sony's wrong moves and late decisions? Haha. As opposed to Microsoft's right moves with using an outdated disc drive that now makes developers cut things from their games? As opposed to Microsoft's early decision to not include an HDMI output, only to add it later AFTER Sony showed that it was a necessity?
You should just keep your dirty uninformed biased mouth shut from now on. You have no idea what you're talking about.
All Sony's wrong moves and late decisions? Haha. As opposed to Microsoft's right moves with using an outdated disc drive that now makes developers cut things from their games? As opposed to Microsoft's early decision to not include an HDMI output, only to add it later AFTER Sony showed that it was a necessity?
You should just keep your dirty uninformed biased mouth shut from now on. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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[citation][nom]Doughballs[/nom]Blu- ray is becoming a huge factor in terms of audio and visual fidelity( see FFXIII).[/citation]
In all fairness, Blu-ray *IS* an over-hyped element for games. The PS3 game disc format caps it at only a bit less than 50GB; the PS3 CAN'T use the 200GB+ formats for games. Plus, the space isn't necessary for actual game content; after all, Crysis utterly blows any and all console games right out of the water, and fits on a SINGLE normal dual-layer DVD. So any and all "better visuals" on the PS3 are due to its CPU and/or GPU, NOT the disc format.
The only thing any games use that'd NEED that much space is pre-rendered FMVs. Of course, FF XIII is absolutely FULL of them, as was MGS4. It's to that point you're moving from a game with FMVs to a high-def movie with some gameplay attached. If a developer felt confident enough with the console, they'd use in-engine cutscenes to drastically cut space required. (case-in-point: N64 shooter Perfect Dark had over half an hour of full cutscenes, even though the entire game fit on a 32MB cartridge)
In all fairness, Blu-ray *IS* an over-hyped element for games. The PS3 game disc format caps it at only a bit less than 50GB; the PS3 CAN'T use the 200GB+ formats for games. Plus, the space isn't necessary for actual game content; after all, Crysis utterly blows any and all console games right out of the water, and fits on a SINGLE normal dual-layer DVD. So any and all "better visuals" on the PS3 are due to its CPU and/or GPU, NOT the disc format.
The only thing any games use that'd NEED that much space is pre-rendered FMVs. Of course, FF XIII is absolutely FULL of them, as was MGS4. It's to that point you're moving from a game with FMVs to a high-def movie with some gameplay attached. If a developer felt confident enough with the console, they'd use in-engine cutscenes to drastically cut space required. (case-in-point: N64 shooter Perfect Dark had over half an hour of full cutscenes, even though the entire game fit on a 32MB cartridge)
I don't think Wolfgang knows what he's talking about here. First, he obviously has no idea how the PS3 motion controller works, or he wouldn't be making fun of the light that's on the controller. It's going to be about as close to 1:1 motion sensitivty as you can get. The Wii controller has lag and the Natal will lag the most. Natal is interesting but it will ultimately become vaporware. There is just too much lag for serious gaming. PS3 doesn't have to rely on it's new controller (even though it is technically more accurate and therefore better). It has Blu-Ray, which is the best media available for movies and games. How is XBOX going to survive with it's limited capabilities? Is every game going to be on three discs? Will we have to install them to the hard drive?
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no the wii will win the console wars. sony and microsoft are not going to even get close to matching the wii in sales in the end. After the PS3 price drop the PS3 is almost neck and neck in sales with the 360. i am not saying that sony will over take Microsoft for 2nd place but there a greater chance now. but in the end if they did then that would be the biggest humiliation for Microsoft in the end
a good example is sega was kicking Nintendo @$$ with the genesis but nintendo won with the SNES in the end
a good example is sega was kicking Nintendo @$$ with the genesis but nintendo won with the SNES in the end
So wii controllers has buttons, and it's OK by this author. But move has button, and it's not OK.
And you really believe natal would work correctly? I've programming for 11 years, and I'm in microsoft technology only. But for natal, it's not going to work. Here's why:
1. Face recognition and voice recognition takes so much processing power even in today's hardware. It's difficult to get complex ones to work.
2. With natal, you can't play games in dark, you can't be too far nor too close, and the game has to have lots of limitations in how you can do interact with it. In essense, you have to be very strict on what you do. how do you suppose that you shoot a gun with natal?
And you really believe natal would work correctly? I've programming for 11 years, and I'm in microsoft technology only. But for natal, it's not going to work. Here's why:
1. Face recognition and voice recognition takes so much processing power even in today's hardware. It's difficult to get complex ones to work.
2. With natal, you can't play games in dark, you can't be too far nor too close, and the game has to have lots of limitations in how you can do interact with it. In essense, you have to be very strict on what you do. how do you suppose that you shoot a gun with natal?
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[citation][nom]drwho1[/nom]From the 3 consoles the only one that deserve my attention is the PS3, and I have my PS3 for a long time now.The Wii has nothing to compete with either PS3 or 360.The 360 does not come even close (on hardware) to the undisputed king the PS3.With that said, the new controller for the PS3 I expect that abomination to FAIL big time, it is retarded (very similary as retarded as the Wii controller)[/citation]
they will both fail with move and natal
they will both fail with move and natal
360 only won feb because their stock didn't get dried up last year into this year. wii had sold millions last dec into jan leading them on a dry up stock waiting to be refilled. And while the wii gets restock due to their dry out, the 360 left over stocks sold through and that's how they won. If Nintendo had more stock, this would not have happened. any way i don't see 360 winning because Sony and Microsoft both said that wii is not next gen and they only care for the core. but look at those 2 chasing wii now? the core has let them down hard and they are losing money and getting their ass kick by the wii that now they really see what they were wrong all along. at the end of the day those 2 are hippocrate companies that are now copying the wii and have a long way to go, look how they keep saying oh ya 2007,08,09,10 will be the year for ps3/360? Just bs talking that these companies say cause they have know fucking clue to make new game play. they only think the game play lies in graphics! if the graphics are the next gen of game play then all do let your controller down and watch the graphics on your 360/ps3 do the game play for you and beat the game cause all your doing is just looking at pretty things moving and not playing. there can be more then 1 patcher saying the wii will fail and till that day comes shut the fuck up! Oh and I love how year after year ps3 keeps getting weaker and weaker on how they keep throwing out what you paid for. Now I'm lucky I never went out and bought one cause looking at it now just seems like a waste of money and a trap to evey one that got one! lol suck sony fans you got robbed and played! can't wait what they do to you fucker with the ps10! lol bitches!
Oh, and thanks for the April Fools joke. I needed a laugh for the night. 🙂
I don't know how Microsoft will win the war with overpriced accessories, DVD9, a lack of *real* exclusives, and a lack of other essentials that would make anyone buy a 360. I see no reason why I should waste my money on a 360 when most of the games are on the damn PC.
Keep failing some more. You ignore facts, just like any other moronic journalist out there.
I don't know how Microsoft will win the war with overpriced accessories, DVD9, a lack of *real* exclusives, and a lack of other essentials that would make anyone buy a 360. I see no reason why I should waste my money on a 360 when most of the games are on the damn PC.
Keep failing some more. You ignore facts, just like any other moronic journalist out there.
i think its funny about this article saying 360 will win, its funny how EA games and other 3rd party developers are leaning harder towards PS3, its a sad thing that everyone is doing that, great azrticle Mr. biast rrod owner. lol
Thank you for pointing out the horrendous design of the PlayStation Move. Remember the original PS3 controller (that looked like a giant 3?) - Sony is completely out of touch with design.
The original Xbox introduced the hardcore PC gamers to the console market and captured the hardcore console gamer market as well. The attachment rate for the original Xbox was double that of the PS2 and remains nearly as high for the 360. The 360's identity IS the hardcore market. If not for the early release and success of Live, I don't believe the Xbox market would have extended much past the hardcore (as it has done).
I argue that the PS2 was last generations Wii - it may have sold a hundred million units (it was selling more than the PS3 for awhile there) but it was being bought by the general gamer (or grandmas and mothers who were more familiar with the brand). The PS3 is trying to market to the hardcore gamers and has jaded its hundred million PS2 fans in the process. The poor lack of activity on the PS3 network (even though it is a free service), the attachment rates, and the continuous downgrading of the system (no backward support, no Linux, etc.) is a testament to this fact.
Quite simply; the PS3 may have fooled some, but the hardcore gamers are on the 360.
The original Xbox introduced the hardcore PC gamers to the console market and captured the hardcore console gamer market as well. The attachment rate for the original Xbox was double that of the PS2 and remains nearly as high for the 360. The 360's identity IS the hardcore market. If not for the early release and success of Live, I don't believe the Xbox market would have extended much past the hardcore (as it has done).
I argue that the PS2 was last generations Wii - it may have sold a hundred million units (it was selling more than the PS3 for awhile there) but it was being bought by the general gamer (or grandmas and mothers who were more familiar with the brand). The PS3 is trying to market to the hardcore gamers and has jaded its hundred million PS2 fans in the process. The poor lack of activity on the PS3 network (even though it is a free service), the attachment rates, and the continuous downgrading of the system (no backward support, no Linux, etc.) is a testament to this fact.
Quite simply; the PS3 may have fooled some, but the hardcore gamers are on the 360.
You should check out the global sales figures for consoles. It's not just about North America. There's a big wide world out there and 360 has been getting smashed in sales by PS3 ever since the launch of the slim. Even with a shortage of PS3 they're beating 360 every week.
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