Tunerless HDTV sets

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cfad07@email.mot.com (Skip) wrote in
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> DISH and Direct TV have all local low def channels included free.

No they don't.

On Dish, it's $6/month for local channels (they even want $5/month
for locals if you have their so-called "Everything Pack"). I'm sure
DirecTV is the same.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/programming/locals/index.asp

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bcphoto@core.com (BC) wrote in
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> Dish Network signals have been getting worse over
> the years and some stations are nearly unwatchable at times.

This suggests that either your antenna has moved out of good
alignment (or a tree has grown into your path to one of the
satellites) or the electronics (either in the antenna or the
receiver) have degraded.

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Bert Hyman wrote:
> bcphoto@core.com (BC) wrote in
> news:aV6De.3904$IG2.1479@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>
>
>>Dish Network signals have been getting worse over
>>the years and some stations are nearly unwatchable at times.
>
>
> This suggests that either your antenna has moved out of good
> alignment (or a tree has grown into your path to one of the
> satellites) or the electronics (either in the antenna or the
> receiver) have degraded.
>

Actually, it suggests that DiSH has steadily increased the compression
it uses to the detriment of image quality.

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Matthew

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nothere@notnow.never (Matthew L. Martin) wrote in
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> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> bcphoto@core.com (BC) wrote in
>> news:aV6De.3904$IG2.1479@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>>
>>
>>>Dish Network signals have been getting worse over
>>>the years and some stations are nearly unwatchable at times.
>>
>>
>> This suggests that either your antenna has moved out of good
>> alignment (or a tree has grown into your path to one of the
>> satellites) or the electronics (either in the antenna or the
>> receiver) have degraded.
>>
>
> Actually, it suggests that DiSH has steadily increased the
> compression it uses to the detriment of image quality.

Oh, ->that kind of "unwatchable".

Yeah, I see the artifacts but since I'm not doing HD at the moment, I
really don't care so much.

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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
 
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On 19 Jul 2005 12:47:06 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

>cfad07@email.mot.com (Skip) wrote in
>news:dbiiei$1g6$1@avnika.corp.mot.com:
>
>> DISH and Direct TV have all local low def channels included free.
>
>No they don't.
>
>On Dish, it's $6/month for local channels (they even want $5/month
>for locals if you have their so-called "Everything Pack"). I'm sure
>DirecTV is the same.
>
>http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/programming/locals/index.asp

DirecTV packages were priced earlier this year to include local
channels where available.

The billing insert announcing the price changes indicates
subscriptions to packages without local channels will continue
at $3 less each month than the price for the corresponding
Total Choice packages.

The billings which previously listed...
"Total Choice with local channels monthly 39.99"
now show...
"Total Choice monthly 41.99"

look here: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packages/base.dsp
 
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My parents only use OTA.

Bob Miller wrote:
> Bert Hyman wrote:
>
>> jaylsmith@comcast.net (Thumper) wrote in
>> news:uns5b1hj1rc19fk74dq90fmav2duv69bsc@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>> The vast percentage of Americans get their TV from Cable and
>>> Sattelite.
>>
>>
>>
>> What's "vast percentage" mean?
>>
> Commonly accepted number today is 87% who subscribe to cable or
> satellite. Then you have the 2.5% who don't have or want any TV, the 3%
> who steal cable or satellite leaving only 7.5% who "rely" on OTA.
>
> Then of course you have the second and third sets many of which are
> hooked up to OTA but how many. Some are also hooked up to cable, some
> are used with games and DVD players and a large percentage are not even
> on or are used very little.
>
> "vast percentage" is pretty high. Most people do not need any kind of
> tuner in their display device. And retailers will go to a lot of trouble
> to sell them a monitor to shave whatever the cost of those unnecessary
> tuners is off the sale price. Economics 101.
>
> Those retailers who do not learn the lesson quickly will lose sales.
>
> Bob Miller