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On 4 Jun 2005 12:17:40 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Charlie Self"
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>News wrote:
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>> > News wrote:
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>> >> > "nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com.re> wrote in message
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>> >> >> Has anybody thought of making a walking stick monopod? If so, where
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> find and buy it?
>> >> >> Nobody
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Try your nearest Hillwalking / Mountaineering equipment shop.
>> >> >
>> >> > They do make Walking Poles, which can have a variety of Handles or
>> >> > other
>> >> > bits fitted, including a Camera Tripod Screw.
>> >> > Most of them are also adjustable in length.
>> >> >
>> >> > Roy G
>> >> Just what I went looking for yesterday (saw them in Milletts a few years
>> >> back, they don't have them now). Need to keep looking...
>> >
>> > All you need to make your own is a wood lathe, a couple turning tools,
>> > and some wood billets (I'm turning several of cherry). Lee Valley has
>> > the needed hardware, including the tripod screw. www.leevalley.com
>>
>> To paraphrase Mrs Beeton - first catch your lathe...
>
>That do help. But think of all the money you can save. Less than $20
>for hardware, under $10 for cherry or other hardwood. Of course, a
>decently capable lathe costs at least $500, a set of good turning tools
>about $150 to $300 (depends on your definition of "good"), a stand
>costs whatever you're able to spend, and it takes about three months of
>all your spare time to become proficient in spindle turning.

Oh, to live the _Groundhog's Day_ life.


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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:29:22 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , Terry
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>Another online source is REI, if you search "walking stick monopod" at
>REI you'll see several. Here is one.
>
>http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47670657&parent_category_rn=11770843&vcat=REI_SEARCH
>
>However, I suggest you consider a monopod to use as a hiking stick,
>rather than a hiking stick to use as a monopod. I own both a walking
>stick and a monopod, and I find I use the monopod rather than the
>walking stick. The monopod makes a fine walking stick when needed. And
>it is stiffer than the walking stick, which makes it a better platform
>for taking photos.
>
>My monopod collapses in 4 sections to about 20 inches (including the
>small ball head), while the hiking stick collapses in 2 sections to
>about 30 inches. That means the monopod fits nicely in a day pack, or
>can be velcro'd to the outside of a day or fanny pack horizontally
>without sticking out the sides. The hiking stick is a pain to carry if
>you don't want to be using it. I don't want to use a walking stick all
>the time, so this is a concern. If you be using your walking stick all
>the time you are walking, then collapsed size is less of an issue.
>
>Here's the monopod I use, a Slik Lighty Pod II:
>
>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=48636&is=REG
>
>Cost is slightly less than the walking sticks, and it includes a small
>ball head (which you would have to purchase additional with the
>walking stick).
>
>Terrry

I suspect that a monopod is not designed to take as much stress. For
the normal walk, that is fine. But I wonder if it will stand up if you
trip and put your weight on it. That said, I decided against a walking
stick that could be a monopod because of the lack of the ball head.
That would be very nice.


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a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.
 

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Matt Silberstein wrote:

>I suspect that a monopod is not designed to take as much stress. For
>the normal walk, that is fine. But I wonder if it will stand up if you
>trip and put your weight on it.

I wonder about that too. I doubt the metal is a problem, they are
quite strong and stiff, but I wonder about the latches -- will they
slip? However, my experience is that I have used a monopod to cross
streams and climb down boulder fields, and put most of my weight on
it, and not had any problems.

>That said, I decided against a walking
>stick that could be a monopod because of the lack of the ball head.
>That would be very nice.

It's essential unless all you want to do is take landscape orientation
shots of the horizon. :) Of course it is just a cost issue -- you can
add a ball head to your walking stick.

Terry
 
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On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:27:09 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , Terry
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>Matt Silberstein wrote:
>
>>I suspect that a monopod is not designed to take as much stress. For
>>the normal walk, that is fine. But I wonder if it will stand up if you
>>trip and put your weight on it.
>
>I wonder about that too. I doubt the metal is a problem, they are
>quite strong and stiff, but I wonder about the latches -- will they
>slip? However, my experience is that I have used a monopod to cross
>streams and climb down boulder fields, and put most of my weight on
>it, and not had any problems.
>
>>That said, I decided against a walking
>>stick that could be a monopod because of the lack of the ball head.
>>That would be very nice.
>
>It's essential unless all you want to do is take landscape orientation
>shots of the horizon. :) Of course it is just a cost issue -- you can
>add a ball head to your walking stick.

If money were a concern could you suggest an inexpensive one for the
amateur?


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a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
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end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:38:45 -0500, in rec.photo.digital , "Tetractys"
<farga@palenga.jengis> in <gZGdnTE7cbzVKj7fRVn-og@comcast.com> wrote:

>Charlie Self wrote:
>
>> Lee Valley has the needed hardware,
>> including the tripod screw. www.leevalley.com
>
>http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=32835&cat=1,250,43243
>
>Neat site. Thanks for the link.
>
I didn't see that when I first went to the site. Thanks for finding it
and showing it.


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a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
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Terry <no@email.invalid> wrote:

: Yeah, while taking the shot you hold the camera. But I routinely carry
: the monopod with the camera still attched. Sometimes over my shoulder,
: sometimes with the monopod horizontal. So I sure hope it's securely
: attached!

: I never noticed this before, but I just checked my Slik Lighty Pod II,
: and you're right, it has a short bolt, about 2.5 turns. My tripod
: bolts are signicantly longer.

: It's never bothered me in use, seems quite secure.

Some cameras had a problem with a short depth of the tripod screw
receptacle on the camera. So many manufacturers made their mounting crew
short or had an adjusting threaded flange that will allow the short depth
to still firmly hold the camera (so it dosen't pivot on the screw). But I
personally wouldn't trust the weight of my camera to a single screw. Too
many pieces could fale and dump my camera on the ground. I would get a
"quick release" head that will screw into the tripod screw on the monopod
and then into the camera. This makes the attaching and removal of the
camera a momentary movement. You can still carry the pod fully extended
over your sholder, but the camera can hang securly around your neck where
it has much less chance of being dropped.

I just wish that someone would make a tripod and a monopod that uses the
same quick release head so that the same camera mounted plate could be
switched between the two "pods" at will. At this time I have one size
plate for my monopod, and a different one for my tripod. So I have to
unscrew and rescrew the plate every time I change support. At least my
hand will support the camera with either plate installed. :)

JMHO

Randy

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Matt Silberstein wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:27:09 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , Terry
>wrote:
>
>>Of course it is just a cost issue -- you can
>>add a ball head to your walking stick.
>
>If money were a concern could you suggest an inexpensive one for the
>amateur?

For monopod use, I think almost any inexpensive ball head would work
fine. You should be able to get one for under $20, depending on how
much weight you need to support. B&H lists 6 for under $20, including
a Giotto for $10.

I have used only the Slik that came with my monopod, so I don't have
any direct comparison information.

Terry
 
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On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:03:26 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , Terry
<no@email.invalid> in <pra8a1h4793a478pr35urf5pcq7rshk1j1@4ax.com>
wrote:

>Matt Silberstein wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:27:09 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , Terry
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Of course it is just a cost issue -- you can
>>>add a ball head to your walking stick.
>>
>>If money were a concern could you suggest an inexpensive one for the
>>amateur?
>
>For monopod use, I think almost any inexpensive ball head would work
>fine. You should be able to get one for under $20, depending on how
>much weight you need to support. B&H lists 6 for under $20, including
>a Giotto for $10.
>
>I have used only the Slik that came with my monopod, so I don't have
>any direct comparison information.

Thanks.


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All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.
 
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On 6/5/05 11:42 PM, in article d80k70$fk2$1@wildfire.prairienet.org, "Randy
Berbaum" <rberbaum@bluestem.prairienet.org> wrote:
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> I just wish that someone would make a tripod and a monopod that uses the
> same quick release head so that the same camera mounted plate could be
> switched between the two "pods" at will. At this time I have one size
> plate for my monopod, and a different one for my tripod. So I have to
> unscrew and rescrew the plate every time I change support. At least my
> hand will support the camera with either plate installed. :)
>
> JMHO
>
> Randy
>
> ==========
> Randy Berbaum
> Champaign, IL
>
This company:
http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/
makes the plates and clamps so that you can do exactly what your are talking
about. I put one of their quick release clamps on a very small head on my
monopod so that I don't have to remove the plate on my camera or lens every
time I switch from a tripod to a monopod. Their system is not cheap to buy
into but once you have it it offers a lot of flexibility. Fyi - I have no
connection with the company.
Chuck
 
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In article <BEC73A6D.8740%nobody@nowhere.com.re>,
nobody <nobody@nowhere.com.re> wrote:
>Has anybody thought of making a walking stick monopod? If so, where could I
>find and buy it?
>Nobody
>
When I was in Austria a few years ago, I bought a pair of ski/hiking
poles. It is "calibrated" and adjustable. I fit it on the top with
a 1/4-20 screw and covered it with a large flat plastic nut (as a safety
protection). It is excellent for the three purposes. It is sturdy and
strong. This is another solution in additional to the many others
suggested here.

Good luck!
 
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:35:21 +0100, "News"
<Keith@nohtsystems.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Charlie Self" <charliediy@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> News wrote:
>>> "Roy" <royphoty@iona-guesthouse.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:LHfoe.5712$hT6.5326@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>>> >
>>> > "nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com.re> wrote in message
>>> > news:BEC73A6D.8740%nobody@nowhere.com.re...
>>> >> Has anybody thought of making a walking stick monopod? If so, where
>>> >> could
>>> >> I
>>> >> find and buy it?
>>> >> Nobody
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Try your nearest Hillwalking / Mountaineering equipment shop.
>>> >
>>> > They do make Walking Poles, which can have a variety of Handles or
>>> > other
>>> > bits fitted, including a Camera Tripod Screw.
>>> > Most of them are also adjustable in length.
>>> >
>>> > Roy G
>>> Just what I went looking for yesterday (saw them in Milletts a few years
>>> back, they don't have them now). Need to keep looking...
>>
>> All you need to make your own is a wood lathe, a couple turning tools,
>> and some wood billets (I'm turning several of cherry). Lee Valley has
>> the needed hardware, including the tripod screw. www.leevalley.com
>
>To paraphrase Mrs Beeton - first catch your lathe...
>

First catch your local ski shop.
 
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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:23:16 GMT, Terry <no@email.invalid> wrote:


>Yeah, while taking the shot you hold the camera. But I routinely carry
>the monopod with the camera still attched. Sometimes over my shoulder,
>sometimes with the monopod horizontal. So I sure hope it's securely
>attached!
>
>I never noticed this before, but I just checked my Slik Lighty Pod II,
>and you're right, it has a short bolt, about 2.5 turns. My tripod
>bolts are signicantly longer.
>
>It's never bothered me in use, seems quite secure.

If in doubt, attach a lanyard to the stick with a snap on the
end of the cable to snag something on the camera.
 
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:42:08 +0000 (UTC), Randy Berbaum
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>I just wish that someone would make a tripod and a monopod that uses the
>same quick release head so that the same camera mounted plate could be
>switched between the two "pods" at will. At this time I have one size
>plate for my monopod, and a different one for my tripod. So I have to
>unscrew and rescrew the plate every time I change support. At least my
>hand will support the camera with either plate installed. :)
>
>JMHO
>
>Randy
>
>==========
>Randy Berbaum
>Champaign, IL

Shouldn't both use the same 1/4 - 20 screw as the camera?
 
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Randy Berbaum <rberbaum@bluestem.prairienet.org> writes:

> I just wish that someone would make a tripod and a monopod that uses the
> same quick release head so that the same camera mounted plate could be
> switched between the two "pods" at will. At this time I have one size
> plate for my monopod, and a different one for my tripod. So I have to
> unscrew and rescrew the plate every time I change support. At least my
> hand will support the camera with either plate installed. :)

I use a separate mounting plate on top of the tripod and flash brackets (no
monopod currently). I use a Sima QuicKonnect I got from my local Microcenter
for ~ $8, and have multiple for each tripod/flash bracket and camera. I like
it in that it is small enough not to block the battery door on my C-2100UZ.

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:30:54 +0000, kashe wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:42:08 +0000 (UTC), Randy Berbaum
> <rberbaum@bluestem.prairienet.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I just wish that someone would make a tripod and a monopod that uses the
>>same quick release head so that the same camera mounted plate could be
>>switched between the two "pods" at will. At this time I have one size
>>plate for my monopod, and a different one for my tripod. So I have to
>>unscrew and rescrew the plate every time I change support. At least my
>>hand will support the camera with either plate installed. :)
>>
>>JMHO
>>
>>Randy
>>
>>==========
>>Randy Berbaum
>>Champaign, IL
>
> Shouldn't both use the same 1/4 - 20 screw as the camera?
Not necessarily as 5/16 is also a standard.
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:17:42 +0000 (UTC), ih@duck.ee.udel.edu (Charlie
Ih) wrote:

>In article <BEC73A6D.8740%nobody@nowhere.com.re>,
>nobody <nobody@nowhere.com.re> wrote:
>>Has anybody thought of making a walking stick monopod? If so, where could I
>>find and buy it?
>>Nobody
>>
>When I was in Austria a few years ago, I bought a pair of ski/hiking
>poles. It is "calibrated" and adjustable. I fit it on the top with
>a 1/4-20 screw and covered it with a large flat plastic nut (as a safety
>protection). It is excellent for the three purposes. It is sturdy and
>strong. This is another solution in additional to the many others
>suggested here.
>
>Good luck!
>
>

The suggested idea of converting a ski poles into monopods is
great! A good friend of mine has a pair of old ski poles he was going
to throw away, so I will gladly take them from him & convert them.

The down side is that the ski pole is a fixed length, yes I
can shorten it as needed when I convert it but it won't be collapsible
& extendable as many monopods are.

On the up side:

1> The cost is great, often free for the poles. If you don't know a
skier who is upgrading ask @ a local ski/sporting store, because they
may get skier come in with 1 pole to match up the to another set
because they damaged 1 pole. After they have matched it up with a new
set of their likely they will likely tell the store to toss out the
single pole which they may save for your use.

2> This poles are light weight & strong.

3> They already have a spike on the end, a handle on top & most also
have a lanyard.

There is 1 function I hope to do with a P&S with a converted
ski pole that might prove interesting & that is to take overhead
shots. Sure I can do this now with my Canon A95 thanks to it's swivel
1.8" LCD screen but I am limited to my arms length. Now with it on a
monopod, I could get at least an extra 2 feet.

Yes I would either need to 1st set the self 10 second timer or
possibly rig a mechanical remote shutter system. I'll try the self
timer 1st & if the added 2 or so feet prove of interest, I can
consider rigging 1 with some type of remote shutter system.

Group of crowd shots from 7 to 9 feet above ground level may
prove to be interesting & yes I know it will place the camera @ some
risk but @ times I think it may be worth it.

Thanks to everybody for all of the ideas, now I have something
else to try that may make for some interesting pictures. With all of
the very light & tiny cameras now available like the Canon SD400, I
would think we may be seeing more quality digital pictures being taken
from Radio Controlled model airplanes & helicopters.

Respectfully, DHB

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DHB wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:17:42 +0000 (UTC), ih@duck.ee.udel.edu
> (Charlie
> Ih) wrote:
>
>> In article <BEC73A6D.8740%nobody@nowhere.com.re>,
>> nobody <nobody@nowhere.com.re> wrote:
>>> Has anybody thought of making a walking stick monopod? If so,
>>> where
>>> could I find and buy it?
>>> Nobody

<snip>

>
> Group of crowd shots from 7 to 9 feet above ground level may
> prove to be interesting & yes I know it will place the camera @ some
> risk but @ times I think it may be worth it.
>
> Thanks to everybody for all of the ideas, now I have something
> else to try that may make for some interesting pictures. With all
> of
> the very light & tiny cameras now available like the Canon SD400, I
> would think we may be seeing more quality digital pictures being
> taken
> from Radio Controlled model airplanes & helicopters.
>
> Respectfully, DHB
>

Twenty years or so ago I used a Canon A1 on a monopod to get "in
front" of the crowd. It had a mechanical shutter-release activated by
an air tube and bulb. Twenty-four mm lens and a small ball head. As
pointed out by someone, it took a fair amount of muscle, but two-hand
grip is possible, and if you keep it close to balance, disasters are
avoidable.

--
Frank ess
 

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I've been using the ski pole idea for a few years now with a slightly
different twist. I had an old ball head C clamp type mini tripod that I
removed the ball and socket from and attached it to the top of the pole.
The only advantage is that it allows using the camera in portrait mode.

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>
> The suggested idea of converting a ski poles into monopods is
> great! A good friend of mine has a pair of old ski poles he was going
> to throw away, so I will gladly take them from him & convert them.
>
> The down side is that the ski pole is a fixed length, yes I
> can shorten it as needed when I convert it but it won't be collapsible
> & extendable as many monopods are.
>
> On the up side:
>
> 1> The cost is great, often free for the poles. If you don't know a
> skier who is upgrading ask @ a local ski/sporting store, because they
> may get skier come in with 1 pole to match up the to another set
> because they damaged 1 pole. After they have matched it up with a new
> set of their likely they will likely tell the store to toss out the
> single pole which they may save for your use.
>
> 2> This poles are light weight & strong.
>
> 3> They already have a spike on the end, a handle on top & most also
> have a lanyard.
>
> There is 1 function I hope to do with a P&S with a converted
> ski pole that might prove interesting & that is to take overhead
> shots. Sure I can do this now with my Canon A95 thanks to it's swivel
> 1.8" LCD screen but I am limited to my arms length. Now with it on a
> monopod, I could get at least an extra 2 feet.
>
> Yes I would either need to 1st set the self 10 second timer or
> possibly rig a mechanical remote shutter system. I'll try the self
> timer 1st & if the added 2 or so feet prove of interest, I can
> consider rigging 1 with some type of remote shutter system.
>
> Group of crowd shots from 7 to 9 feet above ground level may
> prove to be interesting & yes I know it will place the camera @ some
> risk but @ times I think it may be worth it.
>
> Thanks to everybody for all of the ideas, now I have something
> else to try that may make for some interesting pictures. With all of
> the very light & tiny cameras now available like the Canon SD400, I
> would think we may be seeing more quality digital pictures being taken
> from Radio Controlled model airplanes & helicopters.
>
> Respectfully, DHB
>
> .
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
> or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
> is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
> to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
 
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In article <srvda1p09rfmsg4u2enmb411f9vn05bkcq@4ax.com>,
DHB <yoda2k@verizon.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:17:42 +0000 (UTC), ih@duck.ee.udel.edu (Charlie
>Ih) wrote:
>
>>In article <BEC73A6D.8740%nobody@nowhere.com.re>,
>>nobody <nobody@nowhere.com.re> wrote:
>>>Has anybody thought of making a walking stick monopod? If so, where could I
>>>find and buy it?
>>>Nobody
>>>
>>When I was in Austria a few years ago, I bought a pair of ski/hiking
>>poles. It is "calibrated" and adjustable. I fit it on the top with
>>a 1/4-20 screw and covered it with a large flat plastic nut (as a safety
>>protection). It is excellent for the three purposes. It is sturdy and
>>strong. This is another solution in additional to the many others
>>suggested here.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>
>
> The suggested idea of converting a ski poles into monopods is
>great! A good friend of mine has a pair of old ski poles he was going
>to throw away, so I will gladly take them from him & convert them.
>
> The down side is that the ski pole is a fixed length, yes I
>can shorten it as needed when I convert it but it won't be collapsible
>& extendable as many monopods are.
>

The ski/hiking poles I have are collapsible and "calibrated" (you can set the
length in cm, three sections). They also have removable rubber tips.
 
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