Walking stick and monopod, all in one?

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On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:09:43 +0000 (UTC), ih@duck.ee.udel.edu
(Charlie Ih) wrote:
>The ski/hiking poles I have are collapsible and "calibrated" (you can set the
>length in cm, three sections). They also have removable rubber tips.

Sound like Leki. The Leki Sierra Photo I have is exactly as
you describe, already has a camera screw (hence "Photo") and
is a really well made pole. Same pole is sold by Novoflex as
the BBSTOCK but is finished in bright blue... the Leki is a
more tasteful finish and is actually cheaper.

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Actually my brand is KomperDell - antishock, made in Austria (I guess by
an Austrian compuany). It is well made and finished and looks very nice.

In article <mclea15cffs47kplmtpqnafuqdbqtfh87p@4ax.com>,
John Bean <waterfoot@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:09:43 +0000 (UTC), ih@duck.ee.udel.edu
>(Charlie Ih) wrote:
>>The ski/hiking poles I have are collapsible and "calibrated" (you can set the
>>length in cm, three sections). They also have removable rubber tips.
>
>Sound like Leki. The Leki Sierra Photo I have is exactly as
>you describe, already has a camera screw (hence "Photo") and
>is a really well made pole. Same pole is sold by Novoflex as
>the BBSTOCK but is finished in bright blue... the Leki is a
>more tasteful finish and is actually cheaper.
>
>--
>Regards
>
>John Bean
 
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kashe@sonic.net wrote:
: On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:42:08 +0000 (UTC), Randy Berbaum
: <rberbaum@bluestem.prairienet.org> wrote:


: >I just wish that someone would make a tripod and a monopod that uses the
: >same quick release head so that the same camera mounted plate could be
: >switched between the two "pods" at will. At this time I have one size
: >plate for my monopod, and a different one for my tripod. So I have to
: >unscrew and rescrew the plate every time I change support. At least my
: >hand will support the camera with either plate installed. :)

: Shouldn't both use the same 1/4 - 20 screw as the camera?

Yes, but I was talking about the plate that attaches to the camera with
the 1/4-20 screw and then attaches to the tripod/monopod. Each brand of
support seems to have a different plate dimension. So the plate for my
monopod is long and narrow while the plate for my tripod is nearly square.
So the quick release plate for the monopod won't fit on the tripod and
vise-versa. I guess I could get an add-on quick release that would screw
onto the camera screw of the built-in quick relase on the tripod and
monopod. But this would mean that on both supports I would have one quick
release stacked on another quick release. Not the most prefferable
situation, but I would gain the ability to quick change from one support
to another. Unfortunately most tripods and monopods (within my budget
range) seem to have built in quick release that can't be changed without
sawing the top off the tripod head. :)

I was only hopeing that there would be some standardization, even within a
single manufacturer, between different forms of camera support that would
allow one camera to share several supports, without having to stack quick
release systems.

Randy

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Randy Berbaum wrote:

>kashe@sonic.net wrote:
>: On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:42:08 +0000 (UTC), Randy Berbaum
>: <rberbaum@bluestem.prairienet.org> wrote:
>
>
>: >I just wish that someone would make a tripod and a monopod that uses the
>: >same quick release head so that the same camera mounted plate could be
>: >switched between the two "pods" at will. At this time I have one size
>: >plate for my monopod, and a different one for my tripod. So I have to
>: >unscrew and rescrew the plate every time I change support. At least my
>: >hand will support the camera with either plate installed. :)
>
>: Shouldn't both use the same 1/4 - 20 screw as the camera?
>
>Yes, but I was talking about the plate that attaches to the camera with
>the 1/4-20 screw and then attaches to the tripod/monopod. Each brand of
>support seems to have a different plate dimension. So the plate for my
>monopod is long and narrow while the plate for my tripod is nearly square.
>So the quick release plate for the monopod won't fit on the tripod and
>vise-versa. I guess I could get an add-on quick release that would screw
>onto the camera screw of the built-in quick relase on the tripod and
>monopod. But this would mean that on both supports I would have one quick
>release stacked on another quick release. Not the most prefferable
>situation, but I would gain the ability to quick change from one support
>to another. Unfortunately most tripods and monopods (within my budget
>range) seem to have built in quick release that can't be changed without
>sawing the top off the tripod head. :)
>
>I was only hopeing that there would be some standardization, even within a
>single manufacturer, between different forms of camera support that would
>allow one camera to share several supports, without having to stack quick
>release systems.

There *is* a standard -- it's the machine screw.

I don't know of any monopod or tripod that has a *non-removeable*
quick release plate. Usually they don't come with quick-release plates
at all, you have to add that. What brand/model are you talking about?

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Terry <no@email.invalid> wrote:

: There *is* a standard -- it's the machine screw.

: I don't know of any monopod or tripod that has a *non-removeable*
: quick release plate. Usually they don't come with quick-release plates
: at all, you have to add that. What brand/model are you talking about?

My newest monopod is a Slik E-Z pod jr. that I purchased from B&H. The
Quick Release is built right into the top of the pod. I suspect that I
could figure a way to break the whole head off the pole, but then I would
have a hollow tube to mount a new head to. I don't have my tripod infront
of me so I can't give a make and model, but the same thing is true on it.
the QR is built right into the pan/tilt head. I have found that unless you
go to a professional grade support (with proffesional grade price) most
inexpensive supports tend to have the QR built right into the head
assembly. I tend to go with the less expensive (but still very useable)
supports as the vast majority of my shooting is hand held and thus
spending grocery (or rent) money to get a larger, heavier support, that I
would use even less as I don't want to lug the thing around all day, isn't
practicle.

I have both a monopod and a tripod so I only have to carry the least I
have to. If I am going out with the intention of taking lots of low light
or panorama photos I'll lug the tripod. If I just want a little steading
support for probable long tele shots I carry the monopod. And many days I
am looking for more spur-of-the-moment shots, where quick reaction time is
more important than fussing with a support system. There have been times
around home that I would like to shoot a tripod shot, then want to unclip
the camera to shoot people in the shade (which would benfit from the
monopod). But the time it takes to remove one QR plate and install another
one is the time it takes the camera shy subjects to realize I am about to
turn around and make themselves scarce. The same QR fitting on both
supports would allow a quicker response time to changing conditions. :)

I guess I'll just have to go with stacked QR systems to get what I want
(at a price I am willing to pay).

Randy

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Randy Berbaum wrote:

>Terry <no@email.invalid> wrote:
>
>: There *is* a standard -- it's the machine screw.
>
>: I don't know of any monopod or tripod that has a *non-removeable*
>: quick release plate. Usually they don't come with quick-release plates
>: at all, you have to add that. What brand/model are you talking about?
>
>My newest monopod is a Slik E-Z pod jr. that I purchased from B&H. The
>Quick Release is built right into the top of the pod. I suspect that I
>could figure a way to break the whole head off the pole, but then I would
>have a hollow tube to mount a new head to. I don't have my tripod infront
>of me so I can't give a make and model, but the same thing is true on it.
>the QR is built right into the pan/tilt head. I have found that unless you
>go to a professional grade support (with proffesional grade price) most
>inexpensive supports tend to have the QR built right into the head
>assembly. I tend to go with the less expensive (but still very useable)
>supports as the vast majority of my shooting is hand held and thus
>spending grocery (or rent) money to get a larger, heavier support, that I
>would use even less as I don't want to lug the thing around all day, isn't
>practicle.
>
>I have both a monopod and a tripod so I only have to carry the least I
>have to. If I am going out with the intention of taking lots of low light
>or panorama photos I'll lug the tripod. If I just want a little steading
>support for probable long tele shots I carry the monopod. And many days I
>am looking for more spur-of-the-moment shots, where quick reaction time is
>more important than fussing with a support system. There have been times
>around home that I would like to shoot a tripod shot, then want to unclip
>the camera to shoot people in the shade (which would benfit from the
>monopod). But the time it takes to remove one QR plate and install another
>one is the time it takes the camera shy subjects to realize I am about to
>turn around and make themselves scarce. The same QR fitting on both
>supports would allow a quicker response time to changing conditions. :)
>
>I guess I'll just have to go with stacked QR systems to get what I want
>(at a price I am willing to pay).
>

Interesting, I haven't seen monopods or tripods with these built in
like that. I agree with you that these are foolish, exactly because
they make it difficult to change cameras or supports. You want the
same system to be used throughout your kit.

However, you do not have to "go to professional grade support (with
professional grade prices)" to get this.

You can purchase monopods and tripods for similar money without
built-in quick release fittings. Your e-z pod jr is about $40. The
Slik lighty pod with ball head is $50, and the Slik Monopod 350 is
$30, and neither has a QR plate. There are many other examples, just
start searching B&H.

Of course, now that you already own the equipment, it probably is
easiest to just use a stacked QR system. Note that if you get the QR
accessory to match one of your system, then you'll only have to stack
on one of the tripod or monopod, not both.

Terry
 
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