When will the follow on product arrive.

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DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
 
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:55:09 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
>be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?

They forgot to take down the web page where they advertise them
http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/cat_listRTV.asp?cat=52

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believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
> be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?

Please post a link to the announcement. Thanks in advance
 
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:12:41 GMT, John in Detroit
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>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
>> be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
>
>Please post a link to the announcement. Thanks in advance

"a revised financial forecast for its full 2004 fiscal year ending
March 31, 2005....
"As anticipated, the ReplayTV hardware inventory will be depleted by
this upcoming fiscal year-end"

http://www.dm-holdings.com/eng/media/press/2005/20050228.html
 

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John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
>> be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
>
> Please post a link to the announcement. Thanks in advance

Interesting. This past Sunday we returned the second DOA 5504 unit to
"The Good Guys" (neither machine would power up - no fan or HD - or
allow the power button to reboot the things.)

While doing the charge back the store manager commented "They're still
supporting them but they have quit making them." I wrote it off to the
never-ending rumor mill in places like that but hey...

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 02:12:25 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:12:41 GMT, John in Detroit
><Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
>>> be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
>>
>>Please post a link to the announcement. Thanks in advance
>
>"a revised financial forecast for its full 2004 fiscal year ending
>March 31, 2005....
>"As anticipated, the ReplayTV hardware inventory will be depleted by
>this upcoming fiscal year-end"
>
>http://www.dm-holdings.com/eng/media/press/2005/20050228.html

So they've already sold all them AND are going to sell all them within
a year?

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has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:12:41 GMT, John in Detroit
> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
>>>be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
>>
>>Please post a link to the announcement. Thanks in advance
>
>
> "a revised financial forecast for its full 2004 fiscal year ending
> March 31, 2005....
> "As anticipated, the ReplayTV hardware inventory will be depleted by
> this upcoming fiscal year-end"
>
> http://www.dm-holdings.com/eng/media/press/2005/20050228.html
>
The same DNNA report that sources your media release announces a HD
stand alone unit (which is not the previously announced system of media
servers and "server lites".) They also announced the partnering with
Tribune (who supplies the guides for Tivo & Replay) to distribute Replay
and Tribune services through DNNAs network. This is a month or 2 old
already.
 
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 02:12:25 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:12:41 GMT, John in Detroit
>><Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
>>>>be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
>>>
>>>Please post a link to the announcement. Thanks in advance
>>
>>"a revised financial forecast for its full 2004 fiscal year ending
>>March 31, 2005....
>>"As anticipated, the ReplayTV hardware inventory will be depleted by
>>this upcoming fiscal year-end"
>>
>>http://www.dm-holdings.com/eng/media/press/2005/20050228.html
>
>
> So they've already sold all them AND are going to sell all them within
> a year?
>

The report said "Stocks will be depleted" this is not the same as "We
are not going to make any more" it did not say that, I can think of
alternative meanings for "Stocks will be depleted" including "We over
build and are stuck with 2 warehouses full of these things"

However, since I've not read past reports, and am not privvy to what
goes on inside the board room, In truth, I just do not know
 
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:50:06 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 02:12:25 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:12:41 GMT, John in Detroit
>>><Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
>>>>>be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
>>>>
>>>>Please post a link to the announcement. Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>"a revised financial forecast for its full 2004 fiscal year ending
>>>March 31, 2005....
>>>"As anticipated, the ReplayTV hardware inventory will be depleted by
>>>this upcoming fiscal year-end"
>>>
>>>http://www.dm-holdings.com/eng/media/press/2005/20050228.html
>>
>>
>> So they've already sold all them AND are going to sell all them within
>> a year?
>>
>
>The report said "Stocks will be depleted" this is not the same as "We
>are not going to make any more" it did not say that, I can think of
>alternative meanings for "Stocks will be depleted" including "We over
>build and are stuck with 2 warehouses full of these things"
>
>However, since I've not read past reports, and am not privvy to what
>goes on inside the board room, In truth, I just do not know

The first post in this thread said thay HAD ALREADY SOLD everything.

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created and still runs this old universe is so
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believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:46:19 -0600, Mark Lloyd
<mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:

>So they've already sold all them AND are going to sell all them within
>a year?

Mark the "year end" is mar 31 2005 (tomorrow) and they say the
"ReplayTV" stock is depleted. Tony D confirms the new product is an HD
device, probably sold as anotther product line.
My original question is still valid. Is it going to be backward
compatible with the 5xxx boxes? 45xx will not talk to 5xxx so it is a
reasonable question.
 
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Mark Lloyd wrote:

>
> The first post in this thread said thay HAD ALREADY SOLD everything.

Yup, They have sold everything...... Just like Ford, GM and Chrysler
have will sell out of 2005's about July and are currently sold out of 2004's

In and of itself, it means nothing, Is there a report that says

"We are discontinuing this product line" Like GM's Oldsmobile is now
discontinued? That is the one I'd need to see to be convinced.

Not that it matters cause I have 2 now and do not think I'll be needing
a 3rd. In fact, from where I'm typing there is an advantage to
"Discontinued" in that it's far less likely the software will be updated

This makes turning my 5504 into a 5040.... Much easier
 
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The OP didn't say that they were discontinuing the product only that the
current stock was or would be gone. His question was whether anyone knew
what the replacement product would be. Continuing your analogy, he's
asking what the 2006's will look like.

From:John in Detroit
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> Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> The first post in this thread said thay HAD ALREADY SOLD everything.
>
> Yup, They have sold everything...... Just like Ford, GM and Chrysler
> have will sell out of 2005's about July and are currently sold out of
> 2004's
> In and of itself, it means nothing, Is there a report that says
>
> "We are discontinuing this product line" Like GM's Oldsmobile is now
> discontinued? That is the one I'd need to see to be convinced.
>
> Not that it matters cause I have 2 now and do not think I'll be
> needing a 3rd. In fact, from where I'm typing there is an advantage
> to
> "Discontinued" in that it's far less likely the software will be
> updated
> This makes turning my 5504 into a 5040.... Much easier
 
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:13:03 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:46:19 -0600, Mark Lloyd
><mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>
>>So they've already sold all them AND are going to sell all them within
>>a year?
>
>Mark the "year end" is mar 31 2005 (tomorrow) and they say the
>"ReplayTV" stock is depleted.

They're still advertising the 55xx units. Is this dishonest?

> Tony D confirms the new product is an HD
>device,

Maybe a useful one.

> probably sold as anotther product line.
>My original question is still valid. Is it going to be backward
>compatible with the 5xxx boxes? 45xx will not talk to 5xxx so it is a
>reasonable question.

The HD files themselves will be different, although everything else
may be compatible.

It's possible that there will be no network transfers, considering all
this "protection" sh#$.

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has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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You do have to wonder though.
They've done no updates to the software or user website in how long?

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> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:55:09 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
> >DNNA has announced they have sold all the RTV machines that will ever
> >be. What is the follow on product and will it be backward compatible?
>
> They forgot to take down the web page where they advertise them
> http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/cat_listRTV.asp?cat=52
>
> --
> Mark Lloyd
> has a Replay 5xxx
> http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>
> "The idea that there is an invisible being who
> created and still runs this old universe is so
> childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
> believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
> still fall for that scam."
 
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:20:40 -0600, Mark Lloyd
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>It's possible that there will be no network transfers, considering all
>this "protection" sh#$.


So you think the answer is no? With no network, compatibility is moot.
 
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BruceR wrote:
> The OP didn't say that they were discontinuing the product only that the
> current stock was or would be gone. His question was whether anyone knew
> what the replacement product would be. Continuing your analogy, he's
> asking what the 2006's will look like.


You understand my point it seems, Yes, Exactly.. (And hoping there will
be a 2006, though nobody has said their won't be)
 
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>created and still runs this old universe is so
>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>still fall for that scam."

I take it this means you can not see him?

He has been seen, in the flesh, by many, Think about it, you may figure
out what I'm talking about.

Note to some folks: "HE" is used here because I was taught if you are
not sure use the male pronoun, only use the female if you are sure the
subject is female.

And for the record,,, This is so far off the newsgroup topic that if you
wish to reply, go to E-mail cause this is all I have to say on the topic
here. Thank you... Or you may choose to ignore, I will not be offended.
 
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:22:29 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
> >"The idea that there is an invisible being who
> >created and still runs this old universe is so
> >childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
> >believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
> >still fall for that scam."
>
>I take it this means you can not see him?
>

I'm especially not in the mood for this bullshit today.

>He has been seen, in the flesh, by many, Think about it, you may figure
>out what I'm talking about.
>

There is absolutely no evidence of such "sightings", of of the
existance of something this contrary to known reality. Maybe you could
look for some.

>Note to some folks: "HE" is used here because I was taught if you are
>not sure use the male pronoun,

True.

> only use the female if you are sure the
>subject is female.
>

Or use IT.

>And for the record,,, This is so far off the newsgroup topic that if you
>wish to reply, go to E-mail cause this is all I have to say on the topic
>here. Thank you... Or you may choose to ignore, I will not be offended.

And all I have to say is to start using your brain, rather than
regurgitating archaic BS.

I will not make any further replies to this, in the newsgroup or
elsewhere. It would quickly exceed my tolerance for &%$#!
 
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gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:20:40 -0600, Mark Lloyd
> <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>
>
>>It's possible that there will be no network transfers, considering all
>>this "protection" sh#$.
>
>
>
> So you think the answer is no? With no network, compatibility is moot.

I think the answer is more likely a bulit in DVD burner... But I may
just be engaging in wishful thinking. But that seems to be the way the
industry is going ,,, Build in the DVD thingy.
 
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:23:54 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:20:40 -0600, Mark Lloyd
>> <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It's possible that there will be no network transfers, considering all
>>>this "protection" sh#$.
>>
>>
>>
>> So you think the answer is no? With no network, compatibility is moot.
>
>I think the answer is more likely a bulit in DVD burner...

At least that would give a way to get access to your shows. Any
"protection" problems should now be on the PC, where software'll
become available.

> But I may
>just be engaging in wishful thinking. But that seems to be the way the
>industry is going ,,, Build in the DVD thingy.

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has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."