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Michelle Steiner wrote:
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>> I disagree: Pay for value received.
>
> What about overpaying>?
Market determines that doesn't it?
>> Skip the ATM, go to the bank.
>
> If there's a branch conveniently available.
So convenience doesn't count for value? and
carries a zero price?
>> Don't like gas prices, boycot the company, buy a new bike.
>
> A bike is often impractical, for a variety of reasons, e.g., distance,
> carrying capacity, passenger capacity, etc.
Again a matter of convenience. I know a number of people that
manage to live, not only acceptably, but pretty high off the hog
and don't own a vehicle.
>> Oh, you want them to put an ATM out there for you for YOUR
>> convenience? If you (the user) doesn't pay for it, then who should.
>
> Keep in mind that ATM fees are charged only when you use one that's
> not from your own bank--and you get charged at both ends: by the
> instituton that owns the ATM and by your own bank. Further, some
> banks now charge for not using the ATM; you pay a fee for using the
> teller instead of the ATM.
So, what's your point? They run a business and have charges for various
services. Gets back to the free market doesn't it? My bank charges for
most everything. Other smaller banks don't. My bank has an ATM in
the cafeteria at work and *everywhere* else. I am willing to pay some
of the extra charges for that.
>> I'm a fan of paying a "fair" price for "value received.
>
> So you think that $10 is a fair price for a five minute process of
> transferring data from one phone to another, considering that the
> equipment used is not expensive at all? Besides, offering the
> transfer for free will increase sales of phone upgrades? "You mean
> that I'll have to pay another ten bucks to transfer my phone numbers
> to the new phone? No thanks, I'll just keep this one."
[and from a previous post]
> Ten bucks to transfer data from one phone to another is simply a ripoff.
> It comes to at least $1200 an hour.
You're being silly. Here is a good example:
My kids and their friends decided to do the traditional lemonade
stand in the front yard (being current, they also decided to sell their
excess Yugio cards). I made them itemize all their supplies and
cost. Time spent setting up and having someone man the stand.
I charged them the price of 1 lemonade to use the kitchen to make
it, 1 more for the space used in the refrigerator to store the product,
and 1 more for the yard space (they figured they would just go do it
at their friend's house but that was a no go). They sold 4 lemonades.
Older sister bought 1. My wife and I bought 1 each. Their friend's mom
bought 1 when she came over to call them for dinner. Sold 0 Yugio cards.
A good number of people went by. They were not selling lemonades
each and every minute they sat out there. *big* loss...
You get the idea... There is more than the price of the equipment and
the hourly rate to consider.
What percentage of new-phone customers transfer their stuff?
What percentage of customers expect to transfer their stuff?
If the data transfer doesn't work are you going to transfer it manually?
If the customer doesn't want to wait are you still going to charge anyway
since it took you time to try?
-Quick
In fact I was thinking 
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