$300 price drop on HD DirecTiVo.

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick4@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Both CircuitCity and BestBuy are advertising it for $699 currently.
>
> Similar price drop at www.directv.com for the HR10-250
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> its $649 at http://www.weaknees.com

Excellent trend. I bought mine for $865 delivered including sales tax on
11/20/04. If it took six months for the price to drop two hundred dollars, I
surely got my monies worth buying early. Maybe I'll even buy another one. I
just with they would finally add the home media option.
 
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"Z Man" <z1z@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jack Zwick" <jzwick4@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:jzwick4-54737D.11105429052005@newssvr30-ext.news.prodigy.com...
> > Both CircuitCity and BestBuy are advertising it for $699 currently.
> >
> > Similar price drop at www.directv.com for the HR10-250
> >
> > its $649 at http://www.weaknees.com
>
> Excellent trend. I bought mine for $865 delivered including sales tax on
> 11/20/04. If it took six months for the price to drop two hundred dollars,
I
> surely got my monies worth buying early. Maybe I'll even buy another one.
I
> just with they would finally add the home media option.
>

I figured they would be down to $500 by year end. Nevertheless, I bought
one for $700 about six weeks ago. It seemed like a good price to get a 200
hour Tivo plus two HD tuners all in one box. The tuners alone would
probably cost $200 each or thereabouts on eBay. DirecTV wants $300 for an
HD tuner, or did. Sure, it will be cheaper later but what is the cost to
wait?
 
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> The concern is that it doesn't handle MPEG-4 and that is what DirecTV plans
> to use for local HD. This unit, at least in Pittsburgh, does a great job
> picking up all but one local channels OTA, so MPEG-4 is not required for
> this application in this area.
>
> At some point DirecTV may switch everything to MPEG-4 but that would require
> providing an upgrade path to all their current subscribers, a very expensive
> undertaking. Therefore, my guess is it will be a long time coming and while
> it is happening, DirecTV will be running both services.
>
> These units may turn out to be good for several years.

Let's get this straight here, the HD-Directivo will *not* stop being
capabble of doing what it's doing now anytime soon (and by soon I mean
well over 5 years). Directv is not planning on eliminating their MPEG-2
streams at all at this point. So what you can receive now on the
HD-Directivo, you will continue to be able to receive.

What you won't be able to do is utilize the *new* HD Locals that Directv
is implementing (in a year or so). I don't see how this can be
interpreted as the HD-Tivo no longer working, it will still work fine,
it just won't be able to get the new channels. Directv has also said
that there will be an upgrade offer at that time, though what that would
entail is unknown, but there will be an accommodation. I really don't
see how you can lose here.

So the end result is that if you buy an HD-Tivo now, you'll get *many*
years of useful service out of it, plus you'll probably get a nice
upgrade offer (if you choose to accept it) at some point.

Randy S.
 
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"Randy S." <rswitt@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> > The concern is that it doesn't handle MPEG-4 and that is what DirecTV
plans
> > to use for local HD. This unit, at least in Pittsburgh, does a great
job
> > picking up all but one local channels OTA, so MPEG-4 is not required for
> > this application in this area.
> >
> > At some point DirecTV may switch everything to MPEG-4 but that would
require
> > providing an upgrade path to all their current subscribers, a very
expensive
> > undertaking. Therefore, my guess is it will be a long time coming and
while
> > it is happening, DirecTV will be running both services.
> >
> > These units may turn out to be good for several years.
>
> Let's get this straight here, the HD-Directivo will *not* stop being
> capabble of doing what it's doing now anytime soon (and by soon I mean
> well over 5 years). Directv is not planning on eliminating their MPEG-2
> streams at all at this point. So what you can receive now on the
> HD-Directivo, you will continue to be able to receive.
>
> What you won't be able to do is utilize the *new* HD Locals that Directv
> is implementing (in a year or so). I don't see how this can be
> interpreted as the HD-Tivo no longer working, it will still work fine,
> it just won't be able to get the new channels. Directv has also said
> that there will be an upgrade offer at that time, though what that would
> entail is unknown, but there will be an accommodation. I really don't
> see how you can lose here.
>
> So the end result is that if you buy an HD-Tivo now, you'll get *many*
> years of useful service out of it, plus you'll probably get a nice
> upgrade offer (if you choose to accept it) at some point.

That is really what I was trying to say. Perhaps I didn't word it with
sufficient care. My point was I already use my HD DVR to get local channels
OTA and I am getting great reception with one exception with a fixed
antenna, so what do I really care if locals are offered on MPEG-4?
Furthermore, in a severe storm last night, I was looking for a satellite,
but I still got the OTA stations just fine and the things I had already
recorded, of course, were marvelous. DirecTV will have to make a very
attractive offer to get me to switch for that!

My concern is that they may eventually switch 100% to MPEG-4 several years
down the road. Several means different things to different people, but I
generally mean about seven or eight years. By that time I suspect there
will be enough new technology that I would want to switch anyhow.
 
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> That is really what I was trying to say. Perhaps I didn't word it with
> sufficient care.

I think you were saying that as well, I just wanted to clarify it for
others, you didn't completely describe the situation.

Randy S.
 
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In article <42b0087a_3@news.nauticom.net>,
"Robert B. Peirce" <rbp@cooksonpeirce.com> wrote:

> The concern is that it doesn't handle MPEG-4 and that is what DirecTV plans
> to use for local HD. This unit, at least in Pittsburgh, does a great job
> picking up all but one local channels OTA, so MPEG-4 is not required for
> this application in this area.
>
> At some point DirecTV may switch everything to MPEG-4 but that would require
> providing an upgrade path to all their current subscribers, a very expensive
> undertaking. Therefore, my guess is it will be a long time coming and while
> it is happening, DirecTV will be running both services.
>
> These units may turn out to be good for several years.

DirecTv is not spending billions replacing all their current satellites
to put EVERYTHING in MPEG 4. Get real. Don't be misled by our Comcast
troll.

They are adding additional capacity in terms of 3 satellites for spot
beaming Satellite fed HD locals in MPEG4. Current units wont get that.
They dont get it now, you'll lose nothing by buying now.
 
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In article <42b03a19$1_2@news.nauticom.net>,
"Robert B. Peirce" <rbp@cooksonpeirce.com> wrote:

> That is really what I was trying to say. Perhaps I didn't word it with
> sufficient care. My point was I already use my HD DVR to get local channels
> OTA and I am getting great reception with one exception with a fixed
> antenna, so what do I really care if locals are offered on MPEG-4?
> Furthermore, in a severe storm last night, I was looking for a satellite,
> but I still got the OTA stations just fine and the things I had already
> recorded, of course, were marvelous. DirecTV will have to make a very
> attractive offer to get me to switch for that!
>
> My concern is that they may eventually switch 100% to MPEG-4 several years
> down the road. Several means different things to different people, but I
> generally mean about seven or eight years. By that time I suspect there
> will be enough new technology that I would want to switch anyhow.

DirecTv took 9 years to get to where it is now, it would likely take 9
years and BILLIONS of investment to replace all their current satellites,
which are not reprogramable to do MPEG4. There is little reason for them
to rush to do a complete changeover. How anxious are you to see your
Shopping Networks in HD?

Its going to be 2007 at best before all locals are available on
satellite fed HD Mpeg4.
 
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I think you're stretching the use of the word "all," Sean. I love the
HD programming I get through Comcast. There are many people on this
group who have an HDTivo.

All? How about none of?
 

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