I am a little disappointed in MS not fully supporting Vista(IE 10, not that I use it, but many users DO). It was not even that bad, and it is just like then fully admitting the messed it up. Either way, I still have a system with Vista and would in no way swap it to what is effectively a service pack upgrade to 7(unless the price was right) just like I did not jump out and upgrade my XP systems to Vista.
LOL, making excuses for Metro on the very first page? Doesn't sound promising for Windows 8. I recall similar excuse making for Vista.
[citation][nom]nukemaster[/nom]And...I am a little disappointed in MS not fully supporting Vista(IE 10, not that I use it, but many users DO). It was not even that bad, and it is just like then fully admitting the messed it up. Either way, I still have a system with Vista and would in no way swap it to what is effectively a service pack upgrade to 7(unless the price was right) just like I did not jump out and upgrade my XP systems to Vista.[/citation]
Um... if you didn't upgrade from XP to Vista right away, why did you upgrade to Vista at all? All the negative press just made you want to try it out? Shoulda waited till 7.
I installed Win 8 CP on my main Rig. I stuck with it for over a week and I have gotten used to finding my way around it. In many respects I liked the OS but yesterday I could no longer help but notice my Rig was suffering a decrease in performance. Boot up times were less than impressive and applications were taking longer and longer to load at start up. I believe this may be due to the fact I am running a SSD on this Rig. Now I have gone back to Win 7 Pro everything is fast and responsive again. It is the CP after all but even so.
[citation][nom]asnorton44[/nom]If your still on Vista you need to come back from the stone age.[/citation]
[citation][nom]julianbautista87[/nom]If you have vista and you like it you deserve a donkey as your way of transport instead of a car.[/citation]
Have you ever used Vista before? Its actually quite a good OS, and mostly identical to Seven btw. It does take a little longer to boot and consumes slightly more RAM, but i can spare a few secs - and hell, RAMs not an issue nowadays. Besides that I see no performance difference.
Vista was crappy when initially released (no SPs) and installed in laptops/old pcs. Now, in fact, i see no good reason to upgrade. No plans to buy a dx11 card either
This is all well and good but none of these improvements will mean a damn thing if the avg consumor doesn't take to the radical changes with the Metro UI and the missing start menu button. This is where MS is going to make a huge mistake with Windows 8. No option to disable or get rid of Metro UI and no option to enable the start menu. if they did that Windows 8 would be a nice upgrade, but as of now it's like looking at a woman from behind and going wow she is pretty until she turns around and your're like um..nevermind.
[citation][nom]SteelCity1981[/nom]This is all well and good but none of these improvements will mean a damn thing if the avg consumor doesn't take to the radical changes with the Metro UI and the missing start menu button. This is where MS is going to make a huge mistake with Windows 8. No option to disable or get rid of Metro UI and no option to enable the start menu. if they did that Windows 8 would be a nice upgrade, but as of now it's like looking at a woman from behind and going wow she is pretty until she turns around and your're like um..nevermind.[/citation]
Totally agree... perhaps not with that last bit...
Looks like a nice upgrade. The missing start button still s**ks, but i trust stardock (or someone else) will do something nice about it (with a little better start8).
About people using Vista: i respect them. Aflter all, i was a Vista user for time (Windows 7 changed it all). However, they must understand something: they are a minority, so it's logical to see Microsoft excluding them from new software updates. I'm not saying it's fair, i'm just saying it's logical.
About XP users: well, they have their reasons. After all, for basic work, it's still a good OS. However, we all have to be honest: That OS is around 11 years old (i think it was released on August 24, 2001 to manufacturers. not really sure). I don't need to say more, because, in 11 years lots of things happen, and we had lot's of things happening.
Some people say: "If it does the job, then don't change it". But i say "if it can do it better, let's try it. And if it's really better, let's see it we can have it".
In other words, i'm gonna try this new Win8, and if it's really better than Win7, i'll download it (err... i mean, buy it).
[citation][nom]SteelCity1981[/nom]All MS has to do is allow people to disable Metro and give people a start button option and Windows 8 would a quality upgrade.[/citation]
They don't want to do that because they want to move everything to Metro and ditch the desktop entirely. That's why being able to find workarounds doesn't mean anything in the long run. Microsoft wants to move everybody to Metro so they can get that 30% cut from software sales, ad revenue from ad-supported apps, and decide which apps can be sold in the first place. Meanwhile, we get to have a tablet OS on our 27" non-touch screens and are supposed to be happy they included a deliberately crippled desktop mode at all.
i had vista for 3 years and has no issues even before any service pack. all the bad press was just from the morons trying to install it on their 10 years old PC's. although i did have vista i am on windows 7 now because i got a free upgrade from my workplace.
but seriously if you are still using XP you are still in the stone age.and if you are able to upgrade but refuse to you are a fool
No one will be using Windows 8
Just search the mighty pirate bay for Win 8 and see for yourself
Also the performance differences are absolutely negligable and you are using an expensive SSD and you havent noticed the decrease in performance after just one week
And search is still broken unlike on Macs and so on..
I'm still happy that in 2012 computers are ranked by the speed of writing 2d text on the screen
looks like 1980
seems most "consumers"are still in that era...
Well if win8 will survive and be popular in tablet environment it is just fine for MS. These speed ups are ok, but they have nothing to do with UI.
I have to get at least 3-4 weeks to get used to this and if everything works fine I may skip the win7. If there are clithes, win 7 will be fine for next 18 years? to the year 2020. So long enough for most normal usage.
What win 9 will be? Most propably it will have "metro 1.1" (so minor chances like between vista and win7 UI) It will have full support for that new disk operation system that will gets its deput in win8 server version. DX12? or DX11.2 or something like that. The most propable configuration is tweaked win8 in anyway. The UI scaling may be the big and important issue that win8 has advantage. There seems to be coming (at last I have to say) some improvements in display resolutions. But win9 should come out at about the same time as this will happen for normal users. It will be interesting to see.
I have a WIn7 m17x R3 with SSD and from pushing the power button to fully loaded desktop is 25seconds flat. If I don't count the second or two before the bios screen appears and the second or two when the desktop is loaded but a couple of icons on taskbar haven't loaded, then the time is about the same. Also if Windows 8 saves driver state, how will this respond if a bad driver is loaded when Win8 keeps it preloaded and you need to remove it?