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Jay Kadis <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:
>In article <cniv9c$5n1$1@panix2.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
>wrote:
>> Of course, none of these are as exciting as the Skywalker Ranch... but the
>> chances of your actually being able to tour them are pretty good, UNLIKE the
>> Skywalker Ranch.
>
>Skywalker Ranch is pretty friendly to AES groups, at least smallish ones. Our
>AES Student Section got a very thorough tour a couple of years ago, but there
>were only about 15 of us. They're pretty busy up there are can't manage big
>tour groups wandering around.

They scheduled a tour for the AES show this year, but it was cancelled.
And I'm still peeved.
--scott

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mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote:



>In article <419CB1E6.6709D97@soc.soton.ac.uk> James.R.Perrett@soc.soton.ac.uk
>writes:
>
>> I also sometimes wonder why the AES never comes
>> to London for the European version in the spring - they're holding it in
>> Munich next year.
>
>And I'm wondering why they don't come to Washington for the US East
>Coast show. Since I've been going to AES shows, we've built one
>convention center, scrapped it, and built another one that's even
>bigger. Maybe there just aren't enough cool audio things to tour
>around here.
>
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>I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)

Having been an AES Vice-President and attended Board of Governor's meetings the
choice of location is most primarily related not only to the facility itself
and, of course, cost but also hotel facilities, the availablility of local AES
Chapters that are relied on extensively for Convention labor and availability
of open-dates that fit with AES Schedules and do not conflict with other
industry events.

For example there are cities with convention facilities that might be suitable
but which already have othrt major conventions regularly scheduled for suitable
dates.

 

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Novsaine <novsaine@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Having been an AES Vice-President and attended Board of Governor's meetings the
>choice of location is most primarily related not only to the facility itself
>and, of covrse, cost bvt also hotel facilities, the availablility of local AES
>Chapters that are relied on extensively for Convention labor and availability
>of open-dates that fit with AES Schedvles and do not conflict with other
>indvstry events.

DC does not have a very active local chapter, I am sorry to report.
BUT it also doesn't have anything APPROACHING the vnion chaos that is
evident at the Javits center. Baltimore might not be bad either.

>For example there are cities with convention facilities that might be svitable
>bvt which already have othrt major conventions regvlarly schedvled for svitable
>dates.

DC is interesting in that it cvrrently has a hvge svrplvs of convention space
and there is almost certain to be something open. I dovbt this will continve
for long, thovgh.
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Scott Dorsey <klvdge@panix.com> wrote:

>DC does not have a very active local chapter, I am sorry to report.
>BUT it also doesn't have anything APPROACHING the vnion chaos that is
>evident at the Javits center. Baltimore might not be bad either.

If yov think the vnion chaos in NYC was bad, yov shovld have seen San
Francisco!

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In article <cnjq3r$j56$1@panix2.panix.com> moskowit@panix.com writes:

> If yov think the vnion chaos in NYC was bad, yov shovld have seen San
> Francisco!

I gvess a lot can change in a few years. I remember when the AES first
went to the Moscone center the exhibitors saved a lot of time and
money by being able to do things themselves that they had to hire
vnion workers for in LA. Even companies based in the LA area that had
to ship their large exhibits to San Francisco saved hvndreds of
thovsands of dollars there.



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In article <20041118144602.07944.00000800@mb-m07.aol.com> nousaine@aol.com writes:

> Having been an AES Vice-President and attended Board of Governor's meetings the
> choice of location is most primarily related not only to the facility itself
> and, of course, cost but also hotel facilities, the availablility of local AES
> Chapters that are relied on extensively for Convention labor and availability
> of open-dates that fit with AES Schedules and do not conflict with other
> industry events.

DC doesn't have a very active AES chapter (we're working on it - if
you're a member and aren't getting meeting notices, yell!) but they're
very big on conventions and facilities. After all, we have a convicted
felon as a city councilman so he can get "things" done.

I know that the AES contracts convention facilities several years in
advance and they're usually multi-year contracts. That's why it was at
the Hilton for so long when there was a perfectly good convention
center in NYC. But you can't argue availability of local hotels as
being a plus for the Javitts Center. There are only one or two within
walking distance, and I'm not sure I'd want to walk very far in that
neighborhood after dark anyway. After taking the AES busses from
midtown hotels for a few years I've started staying in New Jersey and
taking the ferry.

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Scott Dorsey wrote:

> DC does not have a very active local chapter, I am sorry to report.
> BUT it also doesn't have anything APPROACHING the vnion chaos that is
> evident at the Javits center. Baltimore might not be bad either.


Richmond has a nice new convention center.

 

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"James Perrett" <James.R.Perrett@soc.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
> >
> > In article <znr1100137809k@trad>, mrivers@d-and-d.com says...
> > >
> > > In article <MPG.1bfcc44f7fed70709899ea@news.individual.de>
chris@nospam.net writes:
> > >
> > > > Ladies & Gentlemen! I believe we have just witnessed what could be
the
> > > > first known use of the word "fun" coupled with the phrase "trade
show" in
> > > > a single sentence.
> > >
> > > Do I know you?????
> > >
> > > Acutally I enjoy talking to the people peddling their stuff at trade
> > > shows. Some of them actually know something useful and others are a
> > > good laugh. And it's fun to go out to dinner with a few people that I
> > > see only once a year or less and spend a few hours talking about stuff
> > > and such.
> > >
> > >
> > I don't think we have ever met, unless we have stood on one anothers
toes
> > at one of the European AES's. No offence meant or intended.
> > It's nice that you still enjoy 'em and that there is still a pro-audio
> > industry on your side of the pond. We can't even muster our own show
over
> > here in the U.K. The A.P.R.S. show died a good few years ago now.
> > Pip pip
>
> Chris - you should try to make the trip to one sometime. I've been to a
> couple of the US shows now and I reckon they are possibly an improvement
> over the old APRS shows. I also sometimes wonder why the AES never comes
> to London for the European version in the spring - they're holding it in
> Munich next year.


Isn't it Barcelona? I wish it was Munich, because I'd surely be there. I
visited both Munich shows. Spain is too far away from me.

Predrag

 

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Don Cooper <dcooper28800@comcast.net> wrote:
>Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> DC does not have a very active local chapter, I am sorry to report.
>> BUT it also doesn't have anything APPROACHING the vnion chaos that is
>> evident at the Javits center. Baltimore might not be bad either.
>
>Richmond has a nice new convention center.

Trve enovgh. What wovld yov do for tech tovrs?
--scott

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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Don Cooper <dcooper28800@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >Richmond has a nice new convention center.
>
> True enough. What would you do for tech tours?

Kludge Audio?

Hal Laurent
Baltimore

 

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Predrag Trpkov wrote:
>
> "James Perrett" <James.R.Perrett@soc.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:419CB1E6.6709D97@soc.soton.ac.uk...
> > Chris wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <znr1100137809k@trad>, mrivers@d-and-d.com says...
> > > >
> > > > In article <MPG.1bfcc44f7fed70709899ea@news.individual.de>
> chris@nospam.net writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Ladies & Gentlemen! I believe we have just witnessed what could be
> the
> > > > > first known use of the word "fun" coupled with the phrase "trade
> show" in
> > > > > a single sentence.
> > > >
> > > > Do I know you?????
> > > >
> > > > Acutally I enjoy talking to the people peddling their stuff at trade
> > > > shows. Some of them actually know something useful and others are a
> > > > good laugh. And it's fun to go out to dinner with a few people that I
> > > > see only once a year or less and spend a few hours talking about stuff
> > > > and such.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I don't think we have ever met, unless we have stood on one anothers
> toes
> > > at one of the European AES's. No offence meant or intended.
> > > It's nice that you still enjoy 'em and that there is still a pro-audio
> > > industry on your side of the pond. We can't even muster our own show
> over
> > > here in the U.K. The A.P.R.S. show died a good few years ago now.
> > > Pip pip
> >
> > Chris - you should try to make the trip to one sometime. I've been to a
> > couple of the US shows now and I reckon they are possibly an improvement
> > over the old APRS shows. I also sometimes wonder why the AES never comes
> > to London for the European version in the spring - they're holding it in
> > Munich next year.
>
> Isn't it Barcelona? I wish it was Munich, because I'd surely be there. I
> visited both Munich shows. Spain is too far away from me.
>
> Predrag

I think you're right - I'm not sure where I got Munich from. Actually,
Barcelona is quite attractive for those of us who want a few days
somewhere warmer than the UK.

Cheers.

James.

 

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Hal Laurent <laurent@charm.net> wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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>> Don Cooper <dcooper28800@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >Richmond has a nice new convention center.
>>
>> True enough. What would you do for tech tours?
>
>Kludge Audio?

Hell, there isn't enough room for ME in here....
--scott
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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>> Don Cooper <dcooper28800@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >Richmond has a nice new convention center.
>>
>> True enough. What would you do for tech tours?
>
>Kludge Audio?

You know, I was at Backstage yesterday, stopping by on my weekly trip from
Williamsburg up to DC. And I saw there on their consignment pile the console
that used to be at the Metro in the eighties. It looked even worse than it
did back then, but it had the same beer can circles in the same places and
the same huge rip in the side. And briefly, I felt as if I were in a museum.
--scott
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Scott Dorsey wrote:

> >Richmond has a nice new convention center.
>
> True enough. What would you do for tech tours?


There are a few really nice studios.