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You on drugs dude? I have no way indicated that my "connection" to waive my
termination fee was Comcast at all. Who the hell said that? For some reason
you think just because I work for Comcast and had a termination fee waived
think my "connection" was Comcast. Sorry pal, you've misunderstood my post
grossly as usual. Working for Comcast gives you nothing besides a monthly
discount, which I'm aware of. What the hell is your point?

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> Verizon Wireless
>
>
>
>
> Verizon Wireless Welcomes Comcast as a National Wireless Partner
> For New and Existing Wireless Customers!
>
> Effective immediately, Comcast and affiliate companies are eligible to
> participate in this new program. The following benefits are available to
> you:
> a.. XX% Monthly Access Discount on most non-promotional Local, Regional
> and National Price Plans at $35 and above OR you may choose XX% Monthly
> Access Discount on most promotional price plans in your area. 1St line
> only on Family Share Plans included for discounts
> b.. Free Phone & Heavily Discounted National Rates for all handsets
> c.. Waiving Service Activation Fee on 2 year commitments on individually
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> e.. Register your existing VerizonWireless Phone on the
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> f.. Call your National Sales team at 888-386-4339 or...
>
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>
> KM..... You'd better check your facts. ALL other VZW contract language
> applies INCLUDING early term penalties.
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> "I don't obviously have".....?????
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> "Killer Madness" <killer@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:Hct2d.53806$rf3.36311@fe36.usenetserver.com...
>> Yes, connections you don't obviously have...or you wouldn't have posted
>> that. Too bad. Since you are aware of a Comcast discount you know a
>> termination fee isn't included in anything that "Comcasters" get.
>>
>>
>> "Richard Ness" <richardno@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:EumdnQ-5ivfZMtTcRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>> Connections???? You mean TeamComcast and the discount
>>> ALL Comcasters get??
>>>
>>>
>>> "Killer Madness" <killer@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Gi72d.27369$rf3.20071@fe36.usenetserver.com...
>>>>I never pay a termination fee or ridiculous fees that most people do.
>>>>Having worked in the cable industry does give me good connections.
>>>>
>>>> "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1095280300.861088@sj-nntpcache-5...
>>>>> Teddeli wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:28:16 -0400, "Killer Madness"
>>>>>>> god...thinking about that makes me sick since I'm a pathetic Verizon
>>>>>>> customer again. I'll always bad mouth the phone line up...always!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I agree that the lineup of Verizon phones is not as good as
>>>>>> other carriers I don't think the number difference is not that
>>>>>> great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious, why did you come back to Verizonwireless if you hate
>>>>>> them so much? I don't love them either but I guess it doesnt bother
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> as much. I am very content with the coverage it gives me. To me, on a
>>>>>> scale of 1-10 , coverage is number 1 all other factors tie for 10.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. He found a REALLY COOL phone at Cingular
>>>>> (? maybe it was AT&T). Life was grand but eventually he
>>>>> needed to make a phone call.
>>>>>
>>>>> For some undisclosed reason he hates VZW. I think he was
>>>>> happy to pay the ETF in order to support the competition when
>>>>> he came back.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Quick
>>>>>
>>>>>
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:17:41 -0400, "Killer Madness"
<killer@nospam.net> wrote:

>Yea, they sell all phones on that website...but since the GSM network phones
>outshine and out number the CDMA by so many, you'll never think they even
>sold CDMA phones.

>
>
You didn't do the math.

In my very major market the number of phones available online are as
follows:
CDMA 43
GSM 45

That is 3 GSM providers to 2.

Two more phones and1 more carrier = outshines?

How's your Verizon coverage compared to GSM in your area? Maybe I
missed your reply.

 

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Where are you pulling your information from? Just look at this...

AT&T wireless GSM
126 phones

Cingular GSM
118 phones

T-mobile certainly not CDMA
126 phones

Verizon CDMA
17 phones

I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from...don't tell me you
are just grabbing the number of phones each provider currently
carries...there are phones that are available that aren't "with" a carrier
but are of a technology. You misunderstand most or all my posts for some
reason.

"Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:17:41 -0400, "Killer Madness"
> <killer@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Yea, they sell all phones on that website...but since the GSM network
>>phones
>>outshine and out number the CDMA by so many, you'll never think they even
>>sold CDMA phones.
>
>>
>>
> You didn't do the math.
>
> In my very major market the number of phones available online are as
> follows:
> CDMA 43
> GSM 45
>
> That is 3 GSM providers to 2.
>
> Two more phones and1 more carrier = outshines?
>
> How's your Verizon coverage compared to GSM in your area? Maybe I
> missed your reply.

 

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In article <yxp3d.602$S1.433@fe36.usenetserver.com>,
"Killer Madness" <killer@nospam.net> wrote:

> Where are you pulling your information from? Just look at this...
>
> AT&T wireless GSM 126 phones
>
> Cingular GSM 118 phones
>
> T-mobile certainly not CDMA 126 phones
>
> Verizon CDMA 17 phones
>
> I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from...don't tell me
> you are just grabbing the number of phones each provider currently
> carries...there are phones that are available that aren't "with" a
> carrier but are of a technology. You misunderstand most or all my
> posts for some reason.

Where did you get your information from?

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:31:19 -0400, "Killer Madness"
<killer@nospam.net> wrote:

>Where are you pulling your information from? Just look at this...
>
>AT&T wireless GSM
>126 phones
>
>Cingular GSM
>118 phones
>
>T-mobile certainly not CDMA
>126 phones
>
>Verizon CDMA
>17 phones
>
>I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from...don't tell me you
>are just grabbing the number of phones each provider currently
>carries...there are phones that are available that aren't "with" a carrier
>but are of a technology. You misunderstand most or all my posts for some
>reason.
>
>"Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:vjuqk0ldhjg8kmrm3bft42k7po1obne5ph@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:17:41 -0400, "Killer Madness"
>> <killer@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Yea, they sell all phones on that website...but since the GSM network
>>>phones
>>>outshine and out number the CDMA by so many, you'll never think they even
>>>sold CDMA phones.
>>
>>>
>>>
>> You didn't do the math.
>>
>> In my very major market the number of phones available online are as
>> follows:
>> CDMA 43
>> GSM 45
>>
>> That is 3 GSM providers to 2.
>>
>> Two more phones and1 more carrier = outshines?
>>
>> How's your Verizon coverage compared to GSM in your area? Maybe I
>> missed your reply.
>
>
I am getting my information from the websites of carriers available in
my zipcode which is a major market. Where are you getting your
information from?

I do not misunderstand your posts. If you would include facts they
would be more clear. You make very general statements without backing
them up. While I accept your distaste for Verizonwireless you are
stating your opinion. How about those facts.

Your numbers are way off. I mentioned 17 CDMA phones in my zipcode.
Are you telling me that those 17 CDMA phones are the only CDMA phones
available worldwide? There are other countries that use CDMA
technology. Even if it were slightly true, more is not necessarily
better. I guess what you could say though is that looking at Verizon
compared to those GSM carriers GSM makes more paperweights.

How's your Verizon coverage in your zipcode?

Your agenda here is to make general statements. My agenda is to look
at those statements and ask you to back them up.

 

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Jesus man, just because you plug in your zip code and a list of phones comes
up doesn't mean those are the ONLY ones that will work. If you are technical
at all, you'll understand that any or %99.9 of CDMA phones will work on
Verizon's network. And any GSM (unlocked) will work on any GSM network. I
always unlock my GSM phones...so I do have the ability (which I rarely do)
to use that phone on any GSM carrier like T-mobile or Cingular. Just sawp
the SIM card.

Check out www.mobilecityonline.com. You'll see hundreds of GSM phones that
are pretty damn good. Hundreds of GSM phones that will work on any GSM
network if unlocked. Unlocking a phone is terribly easy and unlocking
Nokia's are the easiest. You'll notice the small, tiny list of CDMA phones
on that site. It's just pathetic.

"Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:31:19 -0400, "Killer Madness"
> <killer@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Where are you pulling your information from? Just look at this...
>>
>>AT&T wireless GSM
>>126 phones
>>
>>Cingular GSM
>>118 phones
>>
>>T-mobile certainly not CDMA
>>126 phones
>>
>>Verizon CDMA
>>17 phones
>>
>>I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from...don't tell me you
>>are just grabbing the number of phones each provider currently
>>carries...there are phones that are available that aren't "with" a carrier
>>but are of a technology. You misunderstand most or all my posts for some
>>reason.
>>
>>"Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:vjuqk0ldhjg8kmrm3bft42k7po1obne5ph@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:17:41 -0400, "Killer Madness"
>>> <killer@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yea, they sell all phones on that website...but since the GSM network
>>>>phones
>>>>outshine and out number the CDMA by so many, you'll never think they
>>>>even
>>>>sold CDMA phones.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You didn't do the math.
>>>
>>> In my very major market the number of phones available online are as
>>> follows:
>>> CDMA 43
>>> GSM 45
>>>
>>> That is 3 GSM providers to 2.
>>>
>>> Two more phones and1 more carrier = outshines?
>>>
>>> How's your Verizon coverage compared to GSM in your area? Maybe I
>>> missed your reply.
>>
>>
> I am getting my information from the websites of carriers available in
> my zipcode which is a major market. Where are you getting your
> information from?
>
> I do not misunderstand your posts. If you would include facts they
> would be more clear. You make very general statements without backing
> them up. While I accept your distaste for Verizonwireless you are
> stating your opinion. How about those facts.
>
> Your numbers are way off. I mentioned 17 CDMA phones in my zipcode.
> Are you telling me that those 17 CDMA phones are the only CDMA phones
> available worldwide? There are other countries that use CDMA
> technology. Even if it were slightly true, more is not necessarily
> better. I guess what you could say though is that looking at Verizon
> compared to those GSM carriers GSM makes more paperweights.
>
> How's your Verizon coverage in your zipcode?
>
> Your agenda here is to make general statements. My agenda is to look
> at those statements and ask you to back them up.
>

 

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Killer Madness wrote:
> Jesus man, just because you plug in your zip code and a list of phones comes
> up doesn't mean those are the ONLY ones that will work.

WTF did you get your three-digit numbers from, for the GSM carriers?

From a list of phones that *could* run on their networks?

Not all carriers will activate phones they didn't sell. Cingular will, and
Verizon will. And Alltel will, I believe. For the others, listing phones that
*could* be used is ridiculous, since those carriers won't *allow* them to be used.


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"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Killer Madness wrote:
> > Jesus man, just because you plug in your zip code and a list of phones
comes
> > up doesn't mean those are the ONLY ones that will work.
>
> WTF did you get your three-digit numbers from, for the GSM carriers?
>
> From a list of phones that *could* run on their networks?
>
> Not all carriers will activate phones they didn't sell. Cingular will, and
> Verizon will. And Alltel will, I believe. For the others, listing phones
that
> *could* be used is ridiculous, since those carriers won't *allow* them to
be used.
>
>
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Is this "How many different phones are currently offered" or "How many
different phones have been manufactured"?

 

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IMHO wrote:

> Is this "How many different phones are currently offered" or "How many
> different phones have been manufactured"?

I think Killer's using the latter for the numbers he generated for the GSM
carriers, and the former for Verizon. Completely dishonest, but that's what
we've come to expect from Killer.

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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:46:16 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
wrote:

>Killer Madness wrote:
>> Jesus man, just because you plug in your zip code and a list of phones comes
>> up doesn't mean those are the ONLY ones that will work.
>
>WTF did you get your three-digit numbers from, for the GSM carriers?
>
> From a list of phones that *could* run on their networks?
>
>Not all carriers will activate phones they didn't sell. Cingular will, and
>Verizon will. And Alltel will, I believe. For the others, listing phones that
>*could* be used is ridiculous, since those carriers won't *allow* them to be used.

I counted the phones. While there were over 100 only about half of
them were listed as in stock. Some especially in the Panasonic and
Siemans and his beloved Nokia lines were just the same model of a
different color. Many as you say will probably not be activated.

He lives in a dream world with visions of GSM phones dancing in his
head. In any event they are of no use to him because he is currently
a CDMA user.

I love to point that out.

 

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Teddeli wrote:
> He lives in a dream world with visions of GSM phones dancing in his
> head. In any event they are of no use to him because he is currently
> a CDMA user.
>
> I love to point that out.

Oh, c'mon, it's better than that.
He *was* a CDMA user but dumped it to get a REALLY COOL
GSM phone. Then (apparently) he couldn't make a phone call, had
to terminate his GSM contract and come back to CDMA.

So you really should say "*again* a CDMA user."... -

-Quick

 

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In article <cio4km$i4p$1@ratbert.glorb.com>,
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>Not all carriers will activate phones they didn't sell. Cingular will, and
>Verizon will. And Alltel will, I believe. For the others, listing phones that
>*could* be used is ridiculous, since those carriers won't *allow* them
>to be used.

Let's see... Cingular will activate any compatibile phone (as does
VZW). AT&T Wireless will only activate phones which they have sold
(not just models they have sold; the actual physical phones, like
SprintPCS). So what will happen when Cingular and A&T Wireless merge?

 

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CharlesH wrote:

> Let's see... Cingular will activate any compatibile phone (as does
> VZW). AT&T Wireless will only activate phones which they have sold
> (not just models they have sold; the actual physical phones, like
> SprintPCS). So what will happen when Cingular and A&T Wireless merge?

I assume they'd eventually adopt the Cingular policy.



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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:40:27 GMT, hoch@exemplary.invalid (CharlesH)
wrote:

>Let's see... Cingular will activate any compatibile phone (as does
>VZW). AT&T Wireless will only activate phones which they have sold
>(not just models they have sold; the actual physical phones, like
>SprintPCS). So what will happen when Cingular and A&T Wireless merge?

It will only matter with the older TDMA phones. GSM phones are not
network specific. The only thing about some phones is for the data
settings many phones have the data settings hard coded into the phones
and the only way to let other data settings be put on the phone is to
have the phones flashed with generic firmware. If the phones are SIM
locked to one carrier generally SIM locks can be defeated by either
entering a code or by other means.
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I guess some people here are clueless...not sure where to go with this. I've
used tons of phones that weren't "sold" or "supported" by the carriers and
always got them to work. I'm not sure why everyone else has problems...which
I think the problem is everyone talks to carrier customer service people
which is the worst thing anyone can do. If they get their hands on your
phone it will never work properly again. Unlocking a phone or even changing
some of the functions doesn't take much, specially if you know a little
programming. I already know a few of my friends activated the Bluetooth
functions on their V710. I don't know as much as they do...but it's possible
to get any phone to work on any network of course if it's for that specific
network. GSM for GSM, CDMA for CDMA, etc.....

"Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:46:16 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Killer Madness wrote:
>>> Jesus man, just because you plug in your zip code and a list of phones
>>> comes
>>> up doesn't mean those are the ONLY ones that will work.
>>
>>WTF did you get your three-digit numbers from, for the GSM carriers?
>>
>> From a list of phones that *could* run on their networks?
>>
>>Not all carriers will activate phones they didn't sell. Cingular will, and
>>Verizon will. And Alltel will, I believe. For the others, listing phones
>>that
>>*could* be used is ridiculous, since those carriers won't *allow* them to
>>be used.
>
> I counted the phones. While there were over 100 only about half of
> them were listed as in stock. Some especially in the Panasonic and
> Siemans and his beloved Nokia lines were just the same model of a
> different color. Many as you say will probably not be activated.
>
> He lives in a dream world with visions of GSM phones dancing in his
> head. In any event they are of no use to him because he is currently
> a CDMA user.
>
> I love to point that out.

 

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Killer Madness wrote:

> I guess some people here are clueless...not sure where to go with this. I've
> used tons of phones that weren't "sold" or "supported" by the carriers and
> always got them to work.

Well, if you use Verizon and Cingular, of course you have. I've already *said*
that those two carriers, along with Alltel, WILL usually activate compatible
phones they didn't sell. *Other carriers* don't.

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Try activating a Verizon phone on Sprint - it won't happen - ever.
Try activating a TMobile phone on AT&T - it also won't happen

Something about being full of fecal matter....


"Killer Madness" <killer@nospam.net> wrote in message news:Mos4d.487$wE4.292@fe32.usenetserver.com...
>I guess some people here are clueless...not sure where to go with this. I've used tons of phones that weren't "sold" or "supported"
>by the carriers and always got them to work. I'm not sure why everyone else has problems...which I think the problem is everyone
>talks to carrier customer service people which is the worst thing anyone can do. If they get their hands on your phone it will
>never work properly again. Unlocking a phone or even changing some of the functions doesn't take much, specially if you know a
>little programming. I already know a few of my friends activated the Bluetooth functions on their V710. I don't know as much as
>they do...but it's possible to get any phone to work on any network of course if it's for that specific network. GSM for GSM, CDMA
>for CDMA, etc.....
>
> "Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:5o80l0lh98gn44fsm2fp8on97lctbr9ik3@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:46:16 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Killer Madness wrote:
>>>> Jesus man, just because you plug in your zip code and a list of phones comes
>>>> up doesn't mean those are the ONLY ones that will work.
>>>
>>>WTF did you get your three-digit numbers from, for the GSM carriers?
>>>
>>> From a list of phones that *could* run on their networks?
>>>
>>>Not all carriers will activate phones they didn't sell. Cingular will, and
>>>Verizon will. And Alltel will, I believe. For the others, listing phones that
>>>*could* be used is ridiculous, since those carriers won't *allow* them to be used.
>>
>> I counted the phones. While there were over 100 only about half of
>> them were listed as in stock. Some especially in the Panasonic and
>> Siemans and his beloved Nokia lines were just the same model of a
>> different color. Many as you say will probably not be activated.
>>
>> He lives in a dream world with visions of GSM phones dancing in his
>> head. In any event they are of no use to him because he is currently
>> a CDMA user.
>>
>> I love to point that out.
>
>
>

 

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Sprint uses CDMA?

Also, I know several people already that use specific AT&T phones on
TMobile's network. Simply by unlocking the phone. Everyone here makes it
seem much harder or impossible just because THEY can't do it. I know, I
know...everyone is a computer god and knows everything. Usually speaking out
of their ass have no idea on what they're talking about.

"Richard Ness" <richardno@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
news:zJ-dnayFV6tlus7cRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> Try activating a Verizon phone on Sprint - it won't happen - ever.
> Try activating a TMobile phone on AT&T - it also won't happen
>
> Something about being full of fecal matter....
>
>
> "Killer Madness" <killer@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:Mos4d.487$wE4.292@fe32.usenetserver.com...
>>I guess some people here are clueless...not sure where to go with this.
>>I've used tons of phones that weren't "sold" or "supported" by the
>>carriers and always got them to work. I'm not sure why everyone else has
>>problems...which I think the problem is everyone talks to carrier customer
>>service people which is the worst thing anyone can do. If they get their
>>hands on your phone it will never work properly again. Unlocking a phone
>>or even changing some of the functions doesn't take much, specially if you
>>know a little programming. I already know a few of my friends activated
>>the Bluetooth functions on their V710. I don't know as much as they
>>do...but it's possible to get any phone to work on any network of course
>>if it's for that specific network. GSM for GSM, CDMA for CDMA, etc.....
>>
>> "Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:5o80l0lh98gn44fsm2fp8on97lctbr9ik3@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:46:16 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Killer Madness wrote:
>>>>> Jesus man, just because you plug in your zip code and a list of phones
>>>>> comes
>>>>> up doesn't mean those are the ONLY ones that will work.
>>>>
>>>>WTF did you get your three-digit numbers from, for the GSM carriers?
>>>>
>>>> From a list of phones that *could* run on their networks?
>>>>
>>>>Not all carriers will activate phones they didn't sell. Cingular will,
>>>>and
>>>>Verizon will. And Alltel will, I believe. For the others, listing phones
>>>>that
>>>>*could* be used is ridiculous, since those carriers won't *allow* them
>>>>to be used.
>>>
>>> I counted the phones. While there were over 100 only about half of
>>> them were listed as in stock. Some especially in the Panasonic and
>>> Siemans and his beloved Nokia lines were just the same model of a
>>> different color. Many as you say will probably not be activated.
>>>
>>> He lives in a dream world with visions of GSM phones dancing in his
>>> head. In any event they are of no use to him because he is currently
>>> a CDMA user.
>>>
>>> I love to point that out.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Joseph]

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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:47:50 -0400, "Killer Madness"
<killer@nospam.net> wrote:

>Sprint uses CDMA?

Always has except for the very beginning when they were in DC they
were GSM. They've been CDMA for years.

>Also, I know several people already that use specific AT&T phones on
>TMobile's network. Simply by unlocking the phone. Everyone here makes it
>seem much harder or impossible just because THEY can't do it.

Sure, it's always trivial if you know how to do it. If you don't know
how to do it it's not trivial. Same with about anything in life.

>I know, I
>know...everyone is a computer god and knows everything. Usually speaking out
>of their ass have no idea on what they're talking about.

Some people *do* know what they're talking about. There are those of
course who speak with authority but can't back it up. Again this is
not strange if you're older than 5 years old you should know this as
well.

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[Guest]

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It's called unlocking a phone. Has ANYONE on this group ever heard of that
or done it? I've done about 6 already and it seems that no one here has a
clue.

"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:40:27 GMT, hoch@exemplary.invalid (CharlesH)
> wrote:
>
>>Let's see... Cingular will activate any compatibile phone (as does
>>VZW). AT&T Wireless will only activate phones which they have sold
>>(not just models they have sold; the actual physical phones, like
>>SprintPCS). So what will happen when Cingular and A&T Wireless merge?
>
> It will only matter with the older TDMA phones. GSM phones are not
> network specific. The only thing about some phones is for the data
> settings many phones have the data settings hard coded into the phones
> and the only way to let other data settings be put on the phone is to
> have the phones flashed with generic firmware. If the phones are SIM
> locked to one carrier generally SIM locks can be defeated by either
> entering a code or by other means.
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