Anti-Piracy Lawyers Thwarted in Norway

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etrnl_frost

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I don't understand personal protection acts. It's almost like saying, "Hey look, criminals, a loophole!"

As long as I've lived, as long as you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide. That, as far as I'm concerned, will always be true. If you have nothing wrong, there's nothing to be paranoid about.

Now, if you are doing something wrong... well, then doesn't it stand well to think that you should be reprimanded? When did we all start thinking it was okay to do something wrong? Or that the law should protect those who are doing something wrong?

And let's get it out of our thick skulls that "big brother is watching you". Unless you're doing something horribly wrong, no one cares. You're not that special. Get over it.
 

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the bureaucracy is expanding, to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy...

... i just pirated that quote, guess i can get away with it now
 

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[citation][nom]etrnl_frost[/nom]I don't understand personal protection acts. It's almost like saying, "Hey look, criminals, a loophole!"As long as I've lived, as long as you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide. That, as far as I'm concerned, will always be true. If you have nothing wrong, there's nothing to be paranoid about. Now, if you are doing something wrong... well, then doesn't it stand well to think that you should be reprimanded? When did we all start thinking it was okay to do something wrong? Or that the law should protect those who are doing something wrong?And let's get it out of our thick skulls that "big brother is watching you". Unless you're doing something horribly wrong, no one cares. You're not that special. Get over it.[/citation]
Some would argue slippery slope...
 

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[citation][nom]cheepstuff[/nom]the bureaucracy is expanding, to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy...... i just pirated that quote, guess i can get away with it now[/citation]
Ahhh, remember that quote from Civ IV. Don't know where it comes from though...
 

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[citation][nom]etrnl_frost[/nom]I don't understand personal protection acts. It's almost like saying, "Hey look, criminals, a loophole!"As long as I've lived, as long as you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide. That, as far as I'm concerned, will always be true. If you have nothing wrong, there's nothing to be paranoid about. Now, if you are doing something wrong... well, then doesn't it stand well to think that you should be reprimanded? When did we all start thinking it was okay to do something wrong? Or that the law should protect those who are doing something wrong?And let's get it out of our thick skulls that "big brother is watching you". Unless you're doing something horribly wrong, no one cares. You're not that special. Get over it.[/citation]

etrnl_frost: the problem is when what is legal today becomes illegal tomorrow. Thanks to all that personal information you gave up freely, the government knows just who's door to come knocking on. It might seem fine now, but just wait till the government asks you to give up something you feel they have no right doing.

It's easy to overlook such legislation when it affect child abusers and software pirates, but what happens when we get into a China or Iran-like situation, where your basic freedom of speech and expression becomes illegal?
 

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[citation][nom]chripuck[/nom]Ahhh, remember that quote from Civ IV. Don't know where it comes from though...[/citation]

fun game, good quotes, now you can feel free to pirate with out immediate reprimandation.
 

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[citation][nom]etrnl_frost[/nom]I don't understand personal protection acts. It's almost like saying, "Hey look, criminals, a loophole!"As long as I've lived, as long as you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide. That, as far as I'm concerned, will always be true. If you have nothing wrong, there's nothing to be paranoid about. Now, if you are doing something wrong... well, then doesn't it stand well to think that you should be reprimanded? When did we all start thinking it was okay to do something wrong? Or that the law should protect those who are doing something wrong?And let's get it out of our thick skulls that "big brother is watching you". Unless you're doing something horribly wrong, no one cares. You're not that special. Get over it.[/citation]

So when are you planning on putting the 24/7 webcam on in your bedroom? If you're a consenting adult, you aren't doing anything wrong, How about having a tracer on your car that can let the police know when you exceed the speed limit? That way they can send you the ticket without having to leave the precinct. After all, if you break the law, "doesn't it stand well to think that you should be reprimanded?"

Show me that you live this and I might listen to your argument. The reality is, it's is a weak and unreal argument. There are a multitude of things you do and say in life that are nobody else's business, and it has nothing to do with legality.

I have no problem with extending new powers to government bodies. However, it had better include very strong accountability, otherwise it can lead to enforcement without responsibility where the end justifies the means. That's bad news for everyone except those in power.
 

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The real pirates are harder to catch and are far less than the "regular" pirate. It doesn't payoff for them...
 

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[citation][nom]_SirO_[/nom]The real pirates are harder to catch and are far less than the "regular" pirate. It doesn't payoff for them...[/citation]

no, the real pirates are plastic, as shown in the picture.
 
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The more power you give to the government, the more apt it is to corrupt and abuse it. Have we not already seen this in America? Enough said. If you want to live under a Nazi-like Regime, sure give the government more power...

I for one am very happy these laws are being struck down, The RIAA and MPAA have done more harm then good and deserve to be taken down. Big corporations and government are the cancer of society. Its called greed, corruption and the power of money to subjugate freedom and privacy of the individual... and the cancer exists in all areas, from big pharmaceutical companies poisoning our bodies to telecom companies trying to snoop in our private lives. Glad to see that freedom is finally winning out.
 

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Know what, I have nothing to hide.
If you want to use Big Brother on me, go ahead. You'll see all the pornographic content I see, and you'll learn how to speak 1337 speak in only a hour. You'll also find I openly use torrents to transfer data.
I ain't being stopped any time soon.
(P.S. Canadian law protects pirates. We can upload and download all we want legally. It's just the use of said obtained material is illegal if you don't have the legal right. We have the right to transfer the information. So, back to uploading all my porn.)

[citation][nom]B-Unit[/nom]No, no, the REAL pirate is here maddox.xmission.com[/citation]

Leave maddox alone.
Oh wait, it's people like you he even has a usebase to begin with.
By the way, everyone get the Alphabet of Manliness, Maddox's book, it's pure awesome. I pirated it.
 

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This seems incredibly political and an abuse of government power. Government should be allowed to deny licenses to firms if they don't like what the firms are doing? That could lead to serious trouble, especially if it gets to the point where firms who oppose the government are simply denied a renewal the next time, no one would dare oppose the government or challenge its views. I can't believe the people of Norway have this kind of short sided view.
 
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