Apple Files Lawsuit Against 10 Samsung Smartphones

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masterofevil22

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Apple is a bunch of pu55ies that don't want to compete in a fair and open market.

They want to monopolize the world of communications and entertainment and and keep every man, woman and child on their digital leash while price gouging their end consumers and screwing software developers and their "partners". They provide a heavy blanket of oppression and a complete lack of freedom to their users and devs alike.

While the blind unknowingly subscribe their soles to this cult the few with eyes must try to make a difference; to keep the legions of blind followers informed. Though it may be hard to do this because most of the sheep have already drank the cool-aid and are now possessed, I will do my best to always promote the truth, capitalism and a fair and open market where Competition and Choice still have life.

GFY Apple
 

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Time to boycott apple in passive aggressive protest. I've already stopped using iTunes, and replaced anything apple with something else... turns out I enjoy my non apple alternatives way more anyways :)
 

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I never fell for buying Apple products, only sheep buy their crap. I would hope TOMS readers wouldn't be caught amoung their followers, right?
 

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[citation][nom]interestingisit[/nom]Time to boycott apple in passive aggressive protest. I've already stopped using iTunes, and replaced anything apple with something else... turns out I enjoy my non apple alternatives way more anyways[/citation]

As much as I'd LOVE to see a boycott on Apple software and devices, I don't see it making a huge effect if it's just Tom's users. Everywhere I look I see the ratio of iPhones to Androids 3:1, and if you include iPods that's a ratio of 5:1. Apple products are used by the second and it would take a year or two to bring it to turtle pace, if even. The least we can do it stop buying their products. Something I never have, and never intend on doing.
 

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Okay okay... My Nokia N97 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I haven't owned anything apple since 1990. And I'm thinking about getting an iPhone...

But I feel a cold sweat coming on...

I don't want it, but I want apps (programs?, isn't that what they used to be called)

What the fcuk do I do?

sigh...

I think I might be about to give in...

time to join AA (apple anonomous)...

This is a cry for help... help me Tom's readers!!!
 

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[citation][nom]williehmmm[/nom]Okay okay... My Nokia N97 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I haven't owned anything apple since 1990. And I'm thinking about getting an iPhone...But I feel a cold sweat coming on...I don't want it, but I want apps (programs?, isn't that what they used to be called)What the fcuk do I do?sigh...I think I might be about to give in...time to join AA (apple anonomous)...This is a cry for help... help me Tom's readers!!![/citation]

If this was 2006, I'd offer Blackberry. If it was 2009, everyone would yell at you to choose the iPhone. It's 2012, go for Android.
 

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[citation][nom]pedro_mann[/nom]This is junk. Lay off Apple.[/citation]
Make sure up wipe the apple juice off your chin when your done knobbing.
 

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Google should use its Motorola patent powers to block Apple from selling any mobile phones. Samsung is a biggest player in Android market. Make perfect sense for Google to protect its biggest partner. We need Iphone to go with Steve Jobs.
 

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[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]No what Apple did, and does, is took a already existant product and made it trendy. Their iPods were inferior in many ways to Creatives Zen series. In fact Apple copied Creatives GUI like interface idea which Creative sued and won. Nothin in any of Apples products is original in any way. They just know how to appeal to the masses while sucking every last penny possible out of them. Its like the iPhone 4S. No 4G, normal glass, and locked doen like crazy. Compare it to any of the current high end Android devices, all that have 4G, Gorilla Glass and open.As for someone copying, there will be an idea and then there will be similar ideas. What I find offensive in all of this is that the courts took Apples doctored photos into evidence at all. That alone is a mistrial.Plus look at it from Samsungs side, Apple has long been using Samsungs CPU for their modile devices in what looked like a good partnership. Then Apple turns around and sues Samsung. It would be like Apple suing Intel for something, which I wouldn't be suprised if they do at some point.In short, Apple has become nothing more than a patent troll. I understand patenting an idea, like x86 or such but Apple is just full of it.[/citation]

1 - The iPods were superior in many ways, in many peoples opinions, to the Creative Zen series.
2 - Does the fact Creative sued when someone blatantly copied their design make them a patent troll too? Or is it only allowed.... 2 times? 3 times? How many times are you allowed to try and protect your intellectual property rights, in your opinion?
3 - 'Nothin in any of Apples products is original in any way' - this statement I cannot take seriously. You can dislike Apple but when you overstate your case it lessens your credibility.
4 - 'They just know how to appeal to the masses while sucking every last penny possible out of them' - isn't this the definition of a very successful company? Appealing to the masses is a good thing, by the way. As for 'sucking every last penny' - if their products were overpriced, they wouldn't be best sellers.
5 - You mention no 4G in the iPhone 4S, and 'normal glass', and also 'locked down'. Lets remember that for more than 50% of the world, the HDSPA implementation in the iPhone 4s is actually faster (since there is no 4G in lots of places, for example in the UK) than any 4G implementation in any Android phone, and of course battery life is better. Lets also ask how many people prioritise 'gorilla glass' when buying a phone? Then, lets consider your 'open' argument, since the source code to Android 3 wasn't released. You can, of course, jailbreak your iPhone too. So where's the tangible benefit for this vague claim of 'open'?
6 - The legal system is responsible for disregarding 'doctored photos' if that doctoring materially affects the case. Not Apple.
7 - The fact that Apple has been long been using Samsung as one of its many suppliers to manufacturer Apples custom designed CPU does not give Samsung any rights to copy anything, or any right to not be sued. Indeed, turn it around, given the long standing relationship, Apple being one of Samsung's biggest customers, isn't it completely immoral that Samsung uses that inside knowledge to develop a near-identical range of similar products? As it happens, Samsung will probably regret this because even if the legal case doesn't succeed, Apple will now find alternative manufacturers (and has already started moving away from Samsung).
8 - There is no such thing as a 'patent troll' - if Apple have not even an arguable case, they'll have to pay their own legal expenses and the expenses of their opponents, and will not even gain a preliminary injunction, so it would simply cost them money. In that respect, it's a self regulating industry. Note, I am not passing any opinion on who should win such legal cases - I'm simply saying the legal system can look after itself - and if not, that flaw lies with the legal system, not with Apple.

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By the way, the iPods came out long before the Zen series (Zen October 2002, iPod October 2001), and there were patent infringements on both sides, with apple filing 2 legal suits against Creative.

The end settlement involved a financial payment on Apples side and Creative joining the "Made for iPod" accessory program. No cases were 'won'.
 

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[citation][nom]williehmmm[/nom]Okay okay... My Nokia N97 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I haven't owned anything apple since 1990. And I'm thinking about getting an iPhone...But I feel a cold sweat coming on...I don't want it, but I want apps (programs?, isn't that what they used to be called)What the fcuk do I do?sigh...I think I might be about to give in...time to join AA (apple anonomous)...This is a cry for help... help me Tom's readers!!![/citation]

My advice to you, would be either to get an iPhone 4S, or to wait for the next range of Android phones.

I need a new phone myself, and I waited until the Droid Razr and the Nexus Prime came out with eager anticipation, thinking I would potentially purchase them. Unfortunately, I think I'm not alone in saying that the specifications for both were a little underwhelming, and already behind the iPhone. Previously I've owned Nokias, Sony's, Samsungs, and an iPhone 4 (the first Apple device I ever owned), so I have no particular allegiance. I think right now the iPhone 4S offers the best hardware and best battery life. I am an open source contributor myself and I develop mobile apps but even I can't see any real benefit to Android being open, I think it's just one of those phrases which is thrown around a lot without meaning much to the end consumer.

However, if you can wait, I would personally wait for the SG3 - the SG2 was a nice phone and if the 3 can surpass the iPhone 4S it will probably be a compelling proposition. This is probably what I will do.

Alternatively, If you need a phone right now, honestly I think 4S is the way to go. Don't listen to any of the scare mongers saying you're 'locked down' - that's a nonsense :)
 

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I don't think you guys have seen Samsung Ace. It's probably not available in US. It's the carbon copy of iPhone 4. Google this handset and see who is copying who.
 

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This is what happens when a company can't only compete with their products anymore, looking at the smartphone market shares its clear that Apple is running scared. Both of Android and further down the road wp now that Intel manage to make the atom x86 cpu within the smartphone power range, that will enable many interesting products and integration with the windows echo system in a whole new way. I think MS have a ace up their sleeve with that.
 

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The Creative Zen series evolved out of the Creative Nomad series which was launched in June 1999 more than 2 years earlier than the ipod.

Creative did win the dispute with Apple even though it was settled out of court and Apple coughed up $100M. Apple tried to patent their version of Creative's GUI but were denied since it was too similar to Creative's patents.

Even ipod's design was copied from Braun's T3 pocket radio designed by the famous Dieter Rams.

All Apple has ever done is take other peoples' designs and ideas and tweak them into their luxury brand concept. The fact that people willingly pay excessive prices for branded products is a weakness of human insecurities and self-centeredness and does not demonstrate any technical achievement.
 

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[citation][nom]watcha[/nom]My advice to you, would be either to get an iPhone 4S, or to wait for the next range of Android phones.I need a new phone myself, and I waited until the Droid Razr and the Nexus Prime came out with eager anticipation, thinking I would potentially purchase them. Unfortunately, I think I'm not alone in saying that the specifications for both were a little underwhelming, and already behind the iPhone. Previously I've owned Nokias, Sony's, Samsungs, and an iPhone 4 (the first Apple device I ever owned), so I have no particular allegiance. I think right now the iPhone 4S offers the best hardware and best battery life. I am an open source contributor myself and I develop mobile apps but even I can't see any real benefit to Android being open, I think it's just one of those phrases which is thrown around a lot without meaning much to the end consumer. However, if you can wait, I would personally wait for the SG3 - the SG2 was a nice phone and if the 3 can surpass the iPhone 4S it will probably be a compelling proposition. This is probably what I will do.Alternatively, If you need a phone right now, honestly I think 4S is the way to go. Don't listen to any of the scare mongers saying you're 'locked down' - that's a nonsense :)[/citation]
How the hell is the Nexus Prime hardware specs 'underwhelming' for you but the 4S is superior?!?!? Please explain as I'm eager to hear this...
 

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What kind of patent this time?
Both SGSII (belongs to me) and iPhone 4S (I bought it for my younger sister) exist at home.....those 2 are totally different.
If the Germany's court wins Apple again this time.....then the people, who run the court, are either stupid, blind or corrupt (how much did Apple bribe them?).
I hope the court will put an end to this stupidity.

 
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