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[citation][nom]FL[/nom]Christians should and do reach out to homosexuals with love, acceptance and forgiveness. They do not have to accept the homosexual moral view in order to do so. Remember, most Christians know that they are sinners just like anyone else and therefore do not look down on homosexuals or anyone else. In short we all need to be kind to one another even if we do not agree.[/citation]
I wish i could meet those kinds. In my exp (nothing to do with what other people tell me) most religious people are completely intolerant of others. They look down on people that don't believe what they do in a condescending manor. I don't hate religious people just the bigoted attitude and superiority complex some Christians but pretty much every Mormon i have met. But your right everyone shouldn't look down on others regardless if you consider them sinners or not just because the fact its wrong in the first place. In fact i live with a Christian who hates gays so much she shakes in hatred when she speaks of the sinners that cause the collapse of our society with their sick belief that what they do is ok. In fact thats the kind of reaction i get from 90% of the Christians and morons i talk to about the subject. Now I'm ok with what i consider their ignorance as i personally see it. People can have their opinions thats fine no one should ever try and stop that. But you have people pushing their belief system on others but stripping them of rights or at least trying to.
The people who say its a choice and giving an apples to oranges comparison make me wonder what they are thinking. Choosing to not breath is harmful and would be choosing to die for no reason. Choosing to not have relations with whatever sex you want has no harmful effects. All of which has nothing to do with being able to choose what you like which has been my only point this whole time. Why deny your self being happy with someone just because some bigot says its wrong of you to do so when there is no harm to anyone? I cant choose what i like i can of course deny my self these things but i fail yet to see why i would do that as long as it isn't harming anyone else since i actually have to say it since some idiot will come here and say something moronic like "what if you like killing people"
You like what you like you cant change that you can delude your self all you want with trying but it wont happen. I cannot consciously decide to not like something I'm sorry daleth. I can say i don't like it but i would be lieing to you and my self. In fact there are a lot of things i wish i did like. Now i can say i do like them and do these things i wished i liked and perhaps someday ill gain a tolerance for them but i will never truly like doing them. I can control an impulse to kill someone or rape someone because it is simply wrong. Thats not a good example at all of what I'm trying to say. And i do agree liking to do things that hurt other people is wrong and should be stopped but homosexuality isn't one of these things It is simply harmless.
I don't agree with or like religion but its your choice it doesn't hurt anyone else. As long as you don't try to repress others actively because of your belief there shouldn't ever be a problem.
"Homosexuals are not asking for equal rights they are asking for the special right to reform our country's family structure by marrying the same sex"
Its not a special right to marry the one you love. everyone should have the same rights family structure (if we are going to assume that means man woman and kids) has been destroyed long ago. a lot of families have a single parent. A family is a close unit of people put together by marriage. After not to many generations you cant even make the argument that it has to do with DNA since you wont share much DNA material with say your great great grandparents.
A special right would be say if they got married they would have something others couldn't have like being tax free because they are gay. its not a special right to be able to get married.
I wish i could meet those kinds. In my exp (nothing to do with what other people tell me) most religious people are completely intolerant of others. They look down on people that don't believe what they do in a condescending manor. I don't hate religious people just the bigoted attitude and superiority complex some Christians but pretty much every Mormon i have met. But your right everyone shouldn't look down on others regardless if you consider them sinners or not just because the fact its wrong in the first place. In fact i live with a Christian who hates gays so much she shakes in hatred when she speaks of the sinners that cause the collapse of our society with their sick belief that what they do is ok. In fact thats the kind of reaction i get from 90% of the Christians and morons i talk to about the subject. Now I'm ok with what i consider their ignorance as i personally see it. People can have their opinions thats fine no one should ever try and stop that. But you have people pushing their belief system on others but stripping them of rights or at least trying to.
The people who say its a choice and giving an apples to oranges comparison make me wonder what they are thinking. Choosing to not breath is harmful and would be choosing to die for no reason. Choosing to not have relations with whatever sex you want has no harmful effects. All of which has nothing to do with being able to choose what you like which has been my only point this whole time. Why deny your self being happy with someone just because some bigot says its wrong of you to do so when there is no harm to anyone? I cant choose what i like i can of course deny my self these things but i fail yet to see why i would do that as long as it isn't harming anyone else since i actually have to say it since some idiot will come here and say something moronic like "what if you like killing people"
You like what you like you cant change that you can delude your self all you want with trying but it wont happen. I cannot consciously decide to not like something I'm sorry daleth. I can say i don't like it but i would be lieing to you and my self. In fact there are a lot of things i wish i did like. Now i can say i do like them and do these things i wished i liked and perhaps someday ill gain a tolerance for them but i will never truly like doing them. I can control an impulse to kill someone or rape someone because it is simply wrong. Thats not a good example at all of what I'm trying to say. And i do agree liking to do things that hurt other people is wrong and should be stopped but homosexuality isn't one of these things It is simply harmless.
I don't agree with or like religion but its your choice it doesn't hurt anyone else. As long as you don't try to repress others actively because of your belief there shouldn't ever be a problem.
"Homosexuals are not asking for equal rights they are asking for the special right to reform our country's family structure by marrying the same sex"
Its not a special right to marry the one you love. everyone should have the same rights family structure (if we are going to assume that means man woman and kids) has been destroyed long ago. a lot of families have a single parent. A family is a close unit of people put together by marriage. After not to many generations you cant even make the argument that it has to do with DNA since you wont share much DNA material with say your great great grandparents.
A special right would be say if they got married they would have something others couldn't have like being tax free because they are gay. its not a special right to be able to get married.
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