[citation][nom]amk-aka-phantom[/nom]What, THIS guy AGAIN? I'm tired of his "comments" on how tablets and smartphones will take over desktop and laptops in a year... but now he SUDDENLY talks sense! FPS hit the wall a long time ago... what else can you do with an FPS rather then improve graphics? The game genre involves shooting, and not much more, and it's fine! Otherwise, there're things like Just Cause 2 and TimeShift, which offer an FPS core with additional abilities that drastically change the way an FPS works (no, Crysis nanosuit can NOT be considered such an ability!). Concerning 3rd person shooter vs. FPS... I don't agree do his "immersion" ideas. I'm feeling much more immersed while playing Mass Effect 2 or JC2 rather than Call of Duty =P[/citation]
thats more due to story than immersed in its gameplay, if you took the story out and made it go here and do this, would it be as immersive?
also, this guy created the fps genre, basicly. he knows his s*** when he talks about it.
[citation][nom]el33t[/nom]Well, I personally feel that people nowadays are way too demanding regarding FPS games especially. I absolutely love the feel of CoD games and I hate it when people complain about how it lacks innovation etc. It has everything a war-based FPS should ought to deliver.[/citation]
that game became a formula. do this, put this in it, than mash it up in a blender, and ad some spice post launch to fix any of the bad tastes people have when sharing it with others, and no free refills, and refills cost almost as much as the original purchase.
for a counter example, look at uncharted.
the first game was single play only and damn good
the second game improved the single player mechanics, and it also added multipleyer on par with gears of wat (never played online, but thats what i hear)
and the third game is months away from launch and the multiplayer is already polished to the point you though the game was done.
call of duty on the other hand, sense at least mw1 has all felt the same, regardless of where you go and that 3 games later. [citation][nom]fenix1186[/nom]"But we're creating value for people - that’s our job!"He meant: "But we're creating profit for us - that’s our job!"Honestly the FPS genre hasn't seen too much new stuff. With appalling games like COD, it's just sad. I mean call of duty was awesome as MW1. Then everything that has come after should have only been an expansion because there is NOTHING different aside from a bit more story and some random small items. COD has instead become the Madden of FPS's. Same shit different year. People just love buying the same thing every year with the tiniest changes from the last iteration: COD, Madden, anything Apple, etc[/citation]
from what im told, madden is one of the most complex games that you can get. its based on a real world sport with rules that dont change. but almost every year madden comes out with something new that completely changes the game for its hard core fans.
i dont play madden, but i know of a few reviewers of sports games who say about what i wrote. from the out side looking in, its the same game, but on the inside, it depends on how into it you are if its worth the 60$ every year.
cod doesnt even do that sense mw1
[citation][nom]Friis[/nom]I like how Battlefield have been moving, seen Battlefield 2 move to Battlefield bad company 2 where you can destroy things, and soon Battlefield 3, can't wait to see that.but moving to see Call of Duty, i joined Call of duty at number 4, but as world at war and black ups came out. only different i see is that there are less good players left in call of duty 4, but there is no real changes, looks like money making "upgrades". Many things could me like a mod to call of duty 4 instead of a whole new game, ok the remote car might be hard to make on a mod. what else is there?I really loved call of duty 4, but its been some time since I last was playing that, last I got so borred because there was barely any multiplayer challenge, running around with pistol because it became so easy, all the good players moved to the next call of duty, I find it a waste of my money buying those later call of duty.[/citation]
apparently you never modded before. if there is a rocket launcher where you see through it the mod is simple, i may not be pretty, but it will do.
[citation][nom]utengineer[/nom]I play the $60 AAA PC titles because there is a large online community. This allows me countless hours of multi-player action with servers that are full. This is were I get value out of the product. Single player campaigns do not interest me because playing against AI is trite and just not challenging after you complete the game.[/citation]
i would rather play against bots most of the time, if only because when i die, its not because of a lag spike, or lag at all, and i cant blame it on anything but i suck.
[citation][nom]mauller07[/nom]I believe the main problem with games now days is the lack of depth to the gameplay and story as well as the overall length of the story.The main turnoff for me in FPS games is the generic death match rubbish, it is why i enjoy the battlefield series more with its conquest mode, cnc renegade was also another brilliant example of an FPS game with a difference.but then im currently addicted to minecraft lol.[/citation]
i love death match, in a serious sam like game, its the best mode to play.
[citation][nom]n3ard3ath[/nom]Carmack, androids like you have no creativity whatsoever. Code code code Carmack, and shut up, that's the only thing you're good at. Your opinion means shit nerd. Romero, now that's a personality. He failed, but at least he tried. Seriously, what have you done in the past 10 years? Doom 3? Was not bad, but disappointed a shitload of people. Quake 4? BARELY good. Same with Wolfenstein 2009. Enemy Territory, BLEND. Seriously, with do people listen to this clown? Beuase he's a "great" coder? What game used your "oh so great" tech? Prey and Brink. Wow! So what kind of authority does that guy have? No creativity, no real use of his tech "skills", and now there he is talking his ALMIGHTY opinion about creativity. Please Carmack, shut up.[/citation]
the id team never had game designers i believe. they were all programmers and they made the fps genre back when there was nothing else i believe. of coarse they aren't great now because they aren't level designers.
also, as for games that use their engines, blame that on unreal engines dominance, not on crappy games use their engine.
[citation][nom]millerm84[/nom]I think going into the past can kind of do the same thing, the story is already there and thus people are tied to it. Battlefield 1942 is still one of my favorite games and I think a "Battlefield 1776" type title would do well especially if a co-op campaign mode existed.[/citation]
think bioshock when he says past.
[citation][nom]benk87[/nom]Anyone ever play shadowrun? I always thought that was a step in the right direction. It's a shame that the studio went under that created the game. Sure there were some problems with the game (minor), but I always thought the game was very fun. Especially with all the cool powers you could get. This is what I want in a shooter. Fun Stuff.[/citation]
yea, they took an rpg, and made it into a multiplayer only game... that was a step into the wrongest direction they could have gone, because the built in fan base hated it for that reason, and it want good enough to compete with its competition at the time.
[citation][nom]fyasko[/nom]multiplayer is flawed with console shooters. public custom games should be the norm instead of matchmaking. i'm tired of playingcrappy maps over and over. let me choose which maps i want to play in what order and what game mode i want. think SOCOM2's community. matchmaking is ruining my experience.[/citation]
you can thank xbox live for making match makeing the norm.
[citation][nom]Khimera2000[/nom]great... to bad all that innovation goes to dumbing down PC controls, to make it easier to port to consoles.[/citation]
you know, when people say dumbed down, tell me what you mean. you want to use the whole keyboard when you really don't need to? i think thats stupid, but to each their own. so long as a pc can use a mouse and wsad keys im fine with it.