Connecting Speakers to Old Record Player

[Guest]

I have an old (30+years?) Poweray Stereo Record Player. It originally came with its own speakers. The speakers and the speaker connections on the record player have long since gone. I am now wanting to connect a couple of Wharfedale Modus speakers by connecting them to the wires inside the box that ran to the original speaker connectors. There are 3 wires (Black, Green and Blue) but I cannot get Stereo sound from the speakers.
I can only get sound if I connect the Black and Blue wires to the speakers. Black and Green produces no sound and neither does Green and Blue. At the moment I have both speakers connected to just the Black and Blue Wires. Any ideas on what the problem is?

 

[Alec Mowat]

Does it even support stereo sound?

Black and Green are probably Negative and ground, so they would serve the same purpose.

 

[Guest]

Hi Alec - yes the player does support sound and I am testing with a stereo record.

 

[Alec Mowat]

It almost sounds like it's missing the red.

If you are not to attached to the unit, open it open and look where the wires are coming from. See if a wire broke off the solder.

 

[Guest]

It almost sounds like it's missing the red.

If you are not to attached to the unit, open it open and look where the wires are coming from. See if a wire broke off the solder.

The wires are coming from the front panel with the volume, tone and balance controls. There are only 3 wires going in and 3 wires coming out. No indication of any other terminals which may have lost connection to another wire.

Curiously, I am testing with a stereo record that has very distinct stereo including the sound of a train passing by that normally travels from one speaker across to the other. The way I have the speakers connected actually gives me both channels of sound through both speakers.

 

[Alec Mowat]

Just because the record has stereo, doesn't mean the speakers on the old record player do.

See if you can find a model number on the player, maybe we can search and find it's specs.

 

[Guest]

Just because the record has stereo, doesn't mean the speakers on the old record player do.

See if you can find a model number on the player, maybe we can search and find it's specs.

It's a Poweray Stereo sm-2-ic

I have played stereo records in the past when the old speakers were attached and definitely got stereo sound.
I also got stereo sound when the old speakers were attached to a more modern system

 

[Alec Mowat]

Check the old speaker wires and see how they were attached. It might be a daisy chain, but the wires are not conventional.

Can't find anything useful on that record player.

This may be relevant: http/turntablelab.com/pages/beginners-guide-to-turntables

Those wires may require an Amp, and the old speakers may have had a built in amp.

 

[Guest]

Check the old speaker wires and see how they were attached. It might be a daisy chain, but the wires are not conventional.

Can't find anything useful on that record player.

This may be relevant: http/turntablelab.com/pages/beginners-guide-to-turntables

Those wires may require an Amp, and the old speakers may have had a built in amp.

From memory (which may be incorrect) the original speaker connections were a DIN type with a central terminal and two terminals near the circumference.

 

[Alec Mowat]

Like this?

http/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector

"A polarised two-pin unshielded connector, designed for connecting a loudspeaker to a power amplifier..."

Sounds like it needs an amp.

 

[jitpublisher]

Thats what I was thinking, you sure the speakers did not have an amp that went with the system?

 

[Alec Mowat]

Thats what I was thinking, you sure the speakers did not have an amp that went with the system?

It sounds like the speakers that came with it had a built in amp.

 

[Guest]

Thats what I was thinking, you sure the speakers did not have an amp that went with the system?

It sounds like the speakers that came with it had a built in amp.

I think that this seems the most likely scenario. Thanks for all your help.