Crytek: Xbox 720 Coming at E3 2012

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is it gonna use cell again or have they gotten intel/someone else to do the processor? i don't pay attention to this stuff any more...
 
[citation][nom]Maximus_Delta[/nom]games devolved... the peak was Crysis in terms of pushing the envelope, however too many f'ing ppl pirated it, Crytek didn't make enough money, so where does that leave us... shooting gallery CoD cr@p, that's where. I just hope BF3 re-ignities things and brings, or should I say graduates, more to PC gaming when they see just how much better it is on the PC. And at least you can upgrade your PC. With consoles it's throw it all away and start again from scratch.[/citation]

How about if the Xbox 720 is essentially turned INTO a PC so that rather than have to buy an entirely new console every ... say 5 years. How about if the hardware can easily be upgraded just like a PC? Would that work? The new Xbox 720 could simply be an upgradable console. I mean, it does seem rather wasteful to have to throw our older Xboxes in the trash. Besides, I just got a new one with the Kinect not long ago. It would be sweet if I could simply give it an upgrade.
 
[citation][nom]kyee7k[/nom]Hopefully, Microsoft learned their lesson from their past and include a beefier heatsink.[/citation]

It's a console. They're not gonna put a beefier heatsink in something that only costs $500.
 
[citation][nom]ironmb[/nom]Stop crying you bunch of babies. If you dont like xbox dont buy one. Stick to your POS 800$ computers. I'll stick to my 4000$ pc, and my xbox 720. Get these babies a tissue, their tears are so good!!![/citation]

You are spending way too much on a PC
 
[citation][nom]FunWIthPCs[/nom]yay lets pay 600 bucks for a pile of dog crap that a 600 buck current gen PC can thrash -_-AND, lets not forget, it will have LAST GEN tech in iti hate consoles[/citation]Not all consoles are like that. When it was new in 2005, the 360 was actually pretty darn powerful. It had a fast GPU with unified shaders (before it was cool) and a daughter chip w/ eDRAM, a fast 3-core processor, and a decent chunk of fast unified memory (for a gaming device without a full blown OS).

I don't know if the successor to the 360 will push the envelope, but I highly doubt it will be as outdated as the Wii U is today.
 
I just wish they'd make xbox games playable/compatible on pc. pc's already share the same code base, directx and better hardware. They'd sell twice as many games as pc gamers don't really buy consoles at all.
 
[citation][nom]technogiant[/nom]Seriously....the console model has some big problems and will not survive much beyond the next 5 years.The first problem is the competition consoles will face from pc's because of the integration of the gpu into the cpu.At release a console represents quite good bang for buck in terms of hardware value, but now with the advent of gpu/cpu hybrids within 1 to 2 years of the console release ubiquitous budget level pc's will have more graphical power than a console. The user base of pc owners is far greater than that of consoles, people need a pc even if they own a console, so in terms of potential market for game developers the pc will be by far the better option to develop for. Also why would anyone buy a console with the inflated price of both games and peripherals when compared to their budget pc which could play the games at the same or higher level for cheaper. The only way around this is for them to make upgradeable consoles. So they can keep pace with the pc. But that would in itself be somewhat self defeating as it would increase the console production costs and make them less competitive compared to pc in the first place. The second problem the consoles face was something that John Cormack highlighted in a recent interview. He was basically saying that within the next couple of hardware generations the need for further improved hardware will be over. We will be at a level graphically where further development will not be perceivable by humans or at least not necessary for gaming purposes at the very least we would be getting into an area of diminishing returns.So if this is achieved in the next few years with discrete graphics then within 5 years we will see the same performance in gpu/cpu hybrids at entry level. So why would anyone want or need a console? People will always need a pc of some description and if the most lowly of pc is going to game at the best level of perceivable graphics quality why would they also want a console. The only thing the console can do is to open up to do everything that people want to do with a pc....infact they need to become a pc........consoles....RIP.[/citation]

Smart phones are getting so powerful they are going to make netbooks, tablets, and even laptops obsolete. I think future gaming is going to be on smartphones with a wireless connection to your TV.
 
They should think about updating the Disc Format that they will use. Microsoft should use HD-DVD since they don't want to use Blu-ray. We shouldn't see games with multiple discs on the next xbox!
 
I love you pirating PCgaming noobs, go fuck yourself. I have a PC i custom built but i use the 360 and ps3 for gaming. PC gaming is dieing and you need to get over it. People dont want to upgrade stuff everytime a new game comes out or spend $2000 to play a couple games. so shut your fucking mouths.
 
[citation][nom]MagicPants[/nom]IMHO the three biggest limiting factors on the 360 are the small memory size, the controller, and the limited hard drive space. Better graphics would be nice, but they don't need to jump as far as they did on previous consoles.I'm hoping MS includes 3 gigs of ram and at least a TB of hard drive space, and starts selling all games over the internet. I hope they also realize that more hard drive space would help them sell more games and they include it at cost, rather than charging ridiculous amounts of money for it (currently 8x the going rate be my estimations).Some sort of controller in the same ballpark as a mouse would be nice. (I'm a pc gamer, can you tell?)[/citation]There's no reason it can't have a 500GB HDD since that costs the same as an 8GB and can be on a single platter for reliability. There's also no reason it would have less than 4GB of DDR3 because it's so cheap now. The conflict Microsoft's gonna run into is:

The Xbox exists to see that console gaming does not displace personal computers (and Windows). Or if it does, at least they'll have a big stake in it. It is in their best interest to keep consoles in the direction of Kinect and avoid the recognition that consoles could do proper web browsing (email, hulu, youtube, etc.) and instead use "Apps" on the consoles that avoid a versatile browser directly as well as avoiding a keyboard and mouse. If you transparently make consoles into computers, then people will buy them and play games for $300 and not need computers anymore--which is the precarious position Microsoft finds itself in.

Graphics need a big jump. I was playing Portal on my friend's 360 and was shocked by how much worse it looked than Portal on my Athlon 64 X2 w/ GeForce 7950GT. And that's got 1/5th the horsepower of my GTX 470. They'll need a BIG (5-10 times the power) graphics bump to reach GTX 560 Ti (470) levels, which 2013 consoles will need at a minimum. Seriously--8 years between console upgrades?
 
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