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play_on wrote:
> On 25 Feb 2005 16:38:48 -0800, "will" <wpmusic@sio.midco.net> wrote:
>
> >play_on wrote:
> This is precisely the kind of stuff that the internet is rendering
> obsolete. You no longer need conventional distribution, advertising
> and shipping if people can download your music.
Yes, we know how wonderfully profitable it is to have people download
your music and pay NOTHING for it. That hardly qualifies as a new
paradigm for sales - sales requires someone pays something for a
product. Perhaps you meant that this is a new paradigm for theft, but
then theivery is still the same as it ever was.
> >Otherwise, do it yourself and you pay for everything. But you won't
> >have the benefit of the marketing, distribution, promotion, product
> >availability, etc. that the label provides to the artist.
>
> Yep... but as I said before, this role of the record company becomes
> less and less crucial as the delivery of music via broadband becomes
> ascendant.
>
If you want to talk about iTunes or that type of model then there may
be hope, yet. Otherwise you have random third party people ripping
music off of CD's and posting it on the internet for anybody to steal.
That's a lot like stealing someone's laundry from the clothesline in
their backyard and taking it to the public square and posting a sign
that says 'Free Take Some'. Would that be legal in your 'property
should be free' world?
>
> It's already evolved into that, since many new artists voluntarily
> offer their music online for free.
If an artist wants to post THEIR OWN music and make it available for
free, fine. Just don't tell me that ANYBODY should be allowed to take
what they want from anybody with no consequence.
> I support artists I like too. But being an older guy I buy very few
> CDs by newer artists, and much of what I do buy is older music. I
> *really* resent having to pay high CD prices for old-time music by
> artists who are long dead.
Oh, and I suppose you also object to buying a book by Ernest Hemingway
and having to pay the bookseller full price for that? Since when did
anybody offer discounts because the writers or artist was dead? Or do
you think you're going to get an Andy Warhol work for less money
because he's dead? Grow up.
>
> I often illegally download new music that I hear a buzz about, just
to
> check it out. I'm not into paying $17 just to try something,
> especially when the odds are about 10 to 1 that I won't like it. If
I
> do like the music, then I might spend the money on it, but I'm not
> going to pay those kind of prices just to stay informed about current
> acts. But I'm not the problem. The problem is people like my
> stepdaughter who doesn't have the money to pay $17 for a CD just to
> hear the one song she likes... so she downloads the one song for free
> instead. Paying for music is a foreign concept for her. Kids like
> her are the challenge that the record companies have to face.
>
There are plenty of promotional sites around that allow you to hear
fairly long clips of new artists so that you can make that decision.
There's plenty of ways for people to hear new artists and it's getting
better. But, there's a huge difference between wanting to hear a new
artist before buying a CD and just stealing their music. BTW, I'm an
older guy, too, but I've also been the artist and the producer and the
publisher and the engineer and the record label , sometimes in multiple
capacities at different times in my career. But, from your posts I
suspect that you haven't been in the position of having money taken out
of YOUR pocket by the theiving behavior you support. Otherwise I don't
think you'd be so quick to support stealing.
Your new paradigm seems to be: I can steal from you and as long as I
don't suffer any economic consequences it's perfectly acceptable to me.
Pickpockets, con men and ordinary thieves have used just that paradigm
since time immemorial, Bucko. Go sell your Brooklyn Bridge to someone
else.
By the way, when I was a kid I saved up money until I had enough to buy
that new album. You might have done the same thing, if you're an older
guy. I didn't feel that I had the RIGHT to have things that I couldn't
afford, no matter how much I may have wanted them. A lot of kids today
have this chip on their shoulder - they have this attitude that they're
ENTITLED to have things that they can't afford or can't handle. Yeah,
it's a new day, baby.
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