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On 2/25/05 11:48 PM, in article 8pvv111jv5ojef2ptjcdkd5rbr1kac0s77@4ax.com,
"play_on" <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:06:09 -0500, "reddred"
> <opaloka@REMOVECAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure where you get your information, but until fairly recently
> trained musicians made money only at the whim of their royal patrons,
> or other supporters. In the case of indigenous people, music was and
> is made as an integrated part of culture, not for profit.
>
> Al
You;re inventing a HUGE chasm here between Mozart and the Bushmen... Also
allowing the chicken and egg to get all cause-and-effect confused.
As stated:
>> "Trevor de Clercq"
>>> Because it's worth spending money on art and music (SNIP) to create quality
>>> art and music. When did people start making
>>> music solely because they wanted to make money?
>>
>> I think it was in ancient Greece.
It ALL happened. There were your Bachs who were the Top Professionals and
landed the fulltime gigs with churches, nobility etc. There were the
Puccini's writing pop opera and such who put on the Big Shows in the Big
towns with the Big Money People who could make that Big Scene. There were
also the Travelling Monster Acts, Kryslers and Pagannini's who were legends
and commanded audience and groupies. Next are the Jenny Lynnes of the
smaller town circuits that did opperetta/dancehall pop tune stuff. Outside
of the formal trained and studied musicians and writers you drop down to
the, in essence, small travelling performers doing common folk stuff in
taverns which blurs into the local singer who does it as a hobby but
everyone knows and likes it when he plays where they can hear. Beyond that
you have Home Musicians who get the printed music and play an evening of
Classical and Popular Favorites for Aunt Bridget when she visits. Your
indigenous culture is invariably a VERY separate thing occuring only in
non-civilised (term used advisedly in its STRICT latin
NON-CITY-TECHNOLOGICAL sense) cultures and is THE embodiment of both a
peoples' culture, history transmission and shooling. I think this last
should be kept strictly OUT of any discussion of the BUSINESS of music as it
indeed is the antithesis of that.
What we're SPECIFICALLY discussing here (and we need to KNOW this or we
don;t have a damned CLUE as to what we're talking about) is the double-edged
sword of:
A) MASS DISTRIBUTION... how the MECHANICAL REPRODUCTION invention, both in
its very appearance and ubiquitous commonality has affected the ability of
the everyman to experience music, both as to what they WANT, what the
Marketting Industry TELLS them they want, what they KNOW about music (one's
appreciation of any art form is related DIRECTLY to how much one KNOWS about
said art form... ie: those who don;t 'like'/appreciate unknown forms of
music are invariably merely reacting to the fact that something is outside
their experieince and education and when they are allowed to explore and
understand it, they are then able to CHOOSE what they like rather than react
xenophobically to anything other than what their buds are listening to) and
what they WANT to be exposed to on an hourly basis.
B) Your Gets What You Pays For....
Coupled with it's flip side of
What You Don;t Pay For Stops Comin' Round...
Coupled with the hard-learned lesson of
You Don;t Know What You Got Till It's Gone.
All of these linked inextricably with
Whether You Know It Or Not
More succinctly: TANSTAAFL
(and History has this clearly laid out for you in bushels if you;d but look)
There IS a business of music (or more broadly ART if you will) , always has
been. What's different since Edison is the ability to separate the
musician's physical presence from the performance in both time and space and
reitteration. With that huge technical power comes a commensurately huge
responsibility, shifted from the PERFORMER (and the aides that make him
function successfully as a wage-earner rather than a travelling starving
genius) to EACH audience member. Not a healthy situation since we as humans
are consistant in at least One Thing: we're greedy and selfish and well,
more often than not, TAKE something we're supposed to PAY for unless FORCED.
We also are kneejerk ready to DEFEND (however irrationally) said actions
when intellectually challenged on it.
Let's get something straight: NOTHING is free.
Not 'information'
Not music
Not art
Nothing.
If we want Good Stuff, we NEED to actively support the Makers Of Good Things
all out of proportion to what we think they should get. You idiots out there
whining (for the last DECADE now) that "CD's cost 60cents to make.. Why
should I pay $20??" should be buying reams of college-ruled notebook paper
rather than the latest Ludlam/Clancy/Whatever novel.. I mean COME ONE man,
$7 for a paperback??? Paper costs $1 for 10 TIMES that much surface area!
Wattarip!
Damn...
Finally...
Coffee's ready.
I gotta go...
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