Handbrake HEVC/H265 encoding blu ray in 25 hours??

[LEINAD23EC]

Hello all, I ma new here.

I moved to Hawaii and I used to have a very large collection of DVD's which the wife said no, to shipping from the mainland to Hawaii, so 3 years ago, I discovered and used Handbrake to rip all my moves to my hard drive and get rid of the DVD's.

However, once in Hawaii, my uncle happens to have a somewhat large collection of BLU-Ray/DVD's. After talking he asked me if I could transcode his library also to a HTPC kind of setting which I am happy to do however, I hit a wall when I started to transcode Blu-Rays.

Handbrake will do 25 hours per Blu-Ray, ...I was like ...what???!!. My uncle has like over 100 dvd's and about 40-50 Blu-rays!

First I will give you the transcoding computer specs:
Windows 10 64 bits
sata 1:120gb ssd (OS)
sata 2: 1 TB HDD 7200rpm
Video Card: Nvidia (EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Super Clocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 128 Bit Graphic Card (04G-P4-3962-KR) with latest drivers
Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P34 FX (with latest drivers/flash)
Processor: AMD (FX) 4130 Quad Core Processor 3.80 ghz
Ram: 16 GB.

And handbrake is set to encode at:
High Profile - MKV container
Picture: 1280x720 (downgrading from 1920x1080) because that seems to affect the speed a lot.
Filters: default
Video: H.265(x265), Constant Quality=20 RF Preset: very slow (did this because somewhere i read it makes it a very small file.
Audio: English DTS AC3 Passthru. (684kbps 7.1)

So as it stands, Handbrake is telling me, it will take 25 hours to encode a 2hours and 20 minutes Blu ray movie.

Is this normal?

Are there any other recommended settings?

I dont want the file to be bigger than 4gb, as the computer I am giving him is a Dell Optiplex 380 (old) that I dont know will be able to handle higher bitrates. But I dont want the end result to look THAT crappy either. (I am willing to take some degradation of video)

Any help is appreciated!!

Thank you.

 

[Nuckles_56]

X265 is very CPU heavy to encode, so I'm not at all surprised that you are needing 25 hours to transcode the video on those settings. If you want to do it faster, you will need a much faster machine than that, you'd be looking at an i7 minimum to get minimum transcode times

 

[LEINAD23EC]

hey Nuckles.

Thanks for replying! So basically, with my current transcoding system, I cant do any better than 25 hours (update: 44 hours).

I will talk to my uncle about re encoding it at 720p, maybe it will be faster.

 

[Nuckles_56]

Not much better, if you have a good cooler on the system, you can overclock the CPU which will speed it up somewhat but overall it won't be very much.

 

[Nick_50]

Why don't you try to encode to h264 instead of h265?

 

[Nuckles_56]

I'd be saying because it is because you get a better quality output from x265 for the same file size. OR a smaller file size for the same quality

 

[Nick_50]

Maybe, but you have to take the encoding time into consideration. I would think its a challenge to get a bluray down to 4gb or less, even some DVDs have files bigger than that. In handbrake you can set a small section of the file to be encoded, just play about with some different settings and see how long it takes, the video quality and file size and see which one would work best.

 

[LEINAD23EC]

Well, its a combination of both time and space. So with H265, I am giving up time, but the file stays lower in size, so what I am basically doing is giving up, is time for size.

I managed to bring down the time to about 12 hours by putting the Avg Bitrate (kbps) to about 3-3.5k. this produces a file, depending on the blu ray of about 3.5gb and it takes about 15 hours to encode. (2 pass encode)

Also by down-scaling from 1920 to 1600, or 1440 sometimes. I've only done 3 blu rays but, so far, the quality in his 60 inch TV looked good.

As long as he doesn't compare it to his Blu Ray (I hope), I should be ok.

But I will report later, once such comparisons (inevitably) happens.

However, if anyone has like a "perfect" encoding settings to make it about 15 hours of encoding, plus a small size and good quality, please let me know. I know those qualities I am asking are a lot, but you never know.

Edit 1: I did try like 20 different settings for "preview" I found the "best one" but once I put the whole Blu ray to be done that way, the time grew exponentially from what I calculated on the "Preview" to its actual time. SO in the end I started to guess.

 

[PA2SK79]

Leina,

I have used both Handbrake and Staxrip to do x265 encoding, personally I prefer Staxrip as it is more powerful, but it is more complicated to use. My advice to you is this - if all you want to do is compress your Blu Rays to less than 4 gb in the shortest time possible then do x264 encoding instead, it will be much faster than x265. It is true that for a given file size x265 will give higher quality, but at a certain point the difference is negligible. At 4 gb you could have a full resolution (1080p), x264 file that would look very good, as in difficult to distinguish from the original blu ray.

On the other hand if you want to get the file size down as small as possible, even if it takes longer, then do x265. For x265 I would suggest the following guide: https/katstorrent.org/community/show/how-encode-staxrip-joybell-x265-hevc-10bit/ There are tutorials there for both Staxrip and Handbrake.
Joybell produces extremely high quality blu ray rips that are typically less than 2 gb, using x265. You can see the estimated encoding times, with an i7 it's around 5-6 hours. I'm not sure how that would change using an AMD processor. I suspect though that with the right software and settings you would see your encoding times drop significantly. Play around with this guide and see what you come up with. Good luck!

 

[CyberKor]

Aye .. looking at your settings for HandBrake, they are a little too "extreme".

As PA2 said... at 4GB per BluRay, you can use x264 instead.

for x265 settings, use:
Preset: Faster
Constant Quality: 23 to 25 (i can barely tell the difference, and only in fast scenes)

Sound: DTS is great, but will take a LOT of space,
I usually convert it to AAC.
Even downmix to AAC 2.0 Dolby for TV shows (where not much surround sound is going on).

Hope this helps!!

 

[Guest]

1. It would possibly take more than that because Handbrake is opensource so it has old licenses to old H.265 profiles.
2. Bear in mind that H.265 is different from x265 because x265 is the actual hero in the department.
3. VP9 can be a substitute if you know what you're doing.

 

[anubis44]

That GTX960 is the key to solving your ridiculously long transcode times with Blurays.

Use a program called StaxRip. It's very similar to Handbrake, but it also supports nVidia H.265 encoding, which that 900-series nVidia card can do. Trust me, your encode times will plumet like a stone, and the quality will be close enough with the right settings. Now, if StaxRip would just support AMD Radeon cards... Coming soon, I trust!

Hello all, I ma new here.

I moved to Hawaii and I used to have a very large collection of DVD's which the wife said no, to shipping from the mainland to Hawaii, so 3 years ago, I discovered and used Handbrake to rip all my moves to my hard drive and get rid of the DVD's.

However, once in Hawaii, my uncle happens to have a somewhat large collection of BLU-Ray/DVD's. After talking he asked me if I could transcode his library also to a HTPC kind of setting which I am happy to do however, I hit a wall when I started to transcode Blu-Rays.

Handbrake will do 25 hours per Blu-Ray, ...I was like ...what???!!. My uncle has like over 100 dvd's and about 40-50 Blu-rays!

First I will give you the transcoding computer specs:
Windows 10 64 bits
sata 1:120gb ssd (OS)
sata 2: 1 TB HDD 7200rpm
Video Card: Nvidia (EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Super Clocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 128 Bit Graphic Card (04G-P4-3962-KR) with latest drivers
Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P34 FX (with latest drivers/flash)
Processor: AMD (FX) 4130 Quad Core Processor 3.80 ghz
Ram: 16 GB.

And handbrake is set to encode at:
High Profile - MKV container
Picture: 1280x720 (downgrading from 1920x1080) because that seems to affect the speed a lot.
Filters: default
Video: H.265(x265), Constant Quality=20 RF Preset: very slow (did this because somewhere i read it makes it a very small file.
Audio: English DTS AC3 Passthru. (684kbps 7.1)

So as it stands, Handbrake is telling me, it will take 25 hours to encode a 2hours and 20 minutes Blu ray movie.

Is this normal?

Are there any other recommended settings?

I dont want the file to be bigger than 4gb, as the computer I am giving him is a Dell Optiplex 380 (old) that I dont know will be able to handle higher bitrates. But I dont want the end result to look THAT crappy either. (I am willing to take some degradation of video)

Any help is appreciated!!

Thank you.

 

[Al_Biss]

Hi,

The only problem I see with your 25 hours encoding is the Very Slow Encoding Preset.
After searching and reading quite for a while I ended up doing all my HEVC encoding at Medium speed.
The difference in size, compared to slower speed, will most of the time be negligible, from my point of view.

See this link for a comparison between encoding speed and quality results with h.264/h.265:
http/www.techspot.com/article/1131-hevc-h256-enconding-playback/page7.html

I know this thread is a bit old but this might help someone other than the OP.

 

[FannieJane]

There are some Blu-ray Ripper software supports Nvidia NVENC technology, so that you can fast encode Blu-ray to H.265 on Maxwell (GM206) or Pascal based Nvidia Graphic card with the software. Just search rip Blu-ray with Nvidia NVENC, there will be some suggestions.

 

[moneyberg247]

I would switch to x264 the files sizes are not that much larger and when you compare the times it takes it is a big difference plus the tools for it are lot more mature x265 can be hit or miss so fair amount of messing about is required to get the sweet spot.

The other thing is it has better compatibility with x264 which you mentioned about old computer well x265 requires higher spec to just run.

I would up 4gb limit to cover yourself different films may require bit higher bitrate and it depends on audio tracks you want to go with so be bit more flexible.

Why not use ripbot it is simpler for the task you want to do also you can just set file size.

What type of sound system do you have it hooked up to?

Depending the type of audio you want this can take fair chunk if it is just "core" track that is say ac3 convert that to aac it will be much smaller file size without any quality loss (dts takes up more space so that could be 1gb+ alone)

 

[LEINAD23EC]

That GTX960 is the key to solving your ridiculously long transcode times with Blurays.

Use a program called StaxRip. It's very similar to Handbrake, but it also supports nVidia H.265 encoding, which that 900-series nVidia card can do. Trust me, your encode times will plumet like a stone, and the quality will be close enough with the right settings. Now, if StaxRip would just support AMD Radeon cards... Coming soon, I trust!

Hello all, I ma new here.

I moved to Hawaii and I used to have a very large collection of DVD's which the wife said no, to shipping from the mainland to Hawaii, so 3 years ago, I discovered and used Handbrake to rip all my moves to my hard drive and get rid of the DVD's.

However, once in Hawaii, my uncle happens to have a somewhat large collection of BLU-Ray/DVD's. After talking he asked me if I could transcode his library also to a HTPC kind of setting which I am happy to do however, I hit a wall when I started to transcode Blu-Rays.

Handbrake will do 25 hours per Blu-Ray, ...I was like ...what???!!. My uncle has like over 100 dvd's and about 40-50 Blu-rays!

First I will give you the transcoding computer specs:
Windows 10 64 bits
sata 1:120gb ssd (OS)
sata 2: 1 TB HDD 7200rpm
Video Card: Nvidia (EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Super Clocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 128 Bit Graphic Card (04G-P4-3962-KR) with latest drivers
Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P34 FX (with latest drivers/flash)
Processor: AMD (FX) 4130 Quad Core Processor 3.80 ghz
Ram: 16 GB.

And handbrake is set to encode at:
High Profile - MKV container
Picture: 1280x720 (downgrading from 1920x1080) because that seems to affect the speed a lot.
Filters: default
Video: H.265(x265), Constant Quality=20 RF Preset: very slow (did this because somewhere i read it makes it a very small file.
Audio: English DTS AC3 Passthru. (684kbps 7.1)

So as it stands, Handbrake is telling me, it will take 25 hours to encode a 2hours and 20 minutes Blu ray movie.

Is this normal?

Are there any other recommended settings?

I dont want the file to be bigger than 4gb, as the computer I am giving him is a Dell Optiplex 380 (old) that I dont know will be able to handle higher bitrates. But I dont want the end result to look THAT crappy either. (I am willing to take some degradation of video)

Any help is appreciated!!

Thank you.

Thank you very much!!

I tried for the past week to do 10 bit encoding with stax rip, but it was a no go.

Turns out that Maxwell processors on Nvidia Cards(900 series), do not support encoding on 10 bit BUT, they can do 8 bit.

To do 10 Bit, I would need the series Nvidia1000 cards (1070, 1080, etc) and onward.

I will try tomorrow with 8 bit settings, see how that works and report back.

Thank you again!

 

[LEINAD23EC]

That GTX960 is the key to solving your ridiculously long transcode times with Blurays.

Use a program called StaxRip. It's very similar to Handbrake, but it also supports nVidia H.265 encoding, which that 900-series nVidia card can do. Trust me, your encode times will plumet like a stone, and the quality will be close enough with the right settings. Now, if StaxRip would just support AMD Radeon cards... Coming soon, I trust!

Hello all, I ma new here.

I moved to Hawaii and I used to have a very large collection of DVD's which the wife said no, to shipping from the mainland to Hawaii, so 3 years ago, I discovered and used Handbrake to rip all my moves to my hard drive and get rid of the DVD's.

However, once in Hawaii, my uncle happens to have a somewhat large collection of BLU-Ray/DVD's. After talking he asked me if I could transcode his library also to a HTPC kind of setting which I am happy to do however, I hit a wall when I started to transcode Blu-Rays.

Handbrake will do 25 hours per Blu-Ray, ...I was like ...what???!!. My uncle has like over 100 dvd's and about 40-50 Blu-rays!

First I will give you the transcoding computer specs:
Windows 10 64 bits
sata 1:120gb ssd (OS)
sata 2: 1 TB HDD 7200rpm
Video Card: Nvidia (EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Super Clocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 128 Bit Graphic Card (04G-P4-3962-KR) with latest drivers
Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P34 FX (with latest drivers/flash)
Processor: AMD (FX) 4130 Quad Core Processor 3.80 ghz
Ram: 16 GB.

And handbrake is set to encode at:
High Profile - MKV container
Picture: 1280x720 (downgrading from 1920x1080) because that seems to affect the speed a lot.
Filters: default
Video: H.265(x265), Constant Quality=20 RF Preset: very slow (did this because somewhere i read it makes it a very small file.
Audio: English DTS AC3 Passthru. (684kbps 7.1)

So as it stands, Handbrake is telling me, it will take 25 hours to encode a 2hours and 20 minutes Blu ray movie.

Is this normal?

Are there any other recommended settings?

I dont want the file to be bigger than 4gb, as the computer I am giving him is a Dell Optiplex 380 (old) that I dont know will be able to handle higher bitrates. But I dont want the end result to look THAT crappy either. (I am willing to take some degradation of video)

Any help is appreciated!!

Thank you.

So,

trying to encode 8bit, didnt work for stax rip either.

It threw the exact same error code.

Any ideas?

 

[ihateregister]

I am in a similar situation as original poster, I have no clue how to rip and encode the content I have. Using a NVidia encoder is really really bad advice. As the quality is so bad, you might as well reduce the resolution.

If you don't believe me, look here;
https/www.techspot.com/article/1131-hevc-h256-enconding-playback/page7.html

All the nvidia-encoded x265 content is blocky, and terrible.