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The A8's HD 7640G has a faster vid subsystem than the Intel HD 4000. $ for $ the HP might be the better deal with 6GB ram, bigger HD (fairly close), and higher res screen.
 

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The i5 system has a discrete graphics card available, a GT 630M. It wouldn't be using the HD 4000 for gaming. It doesn't give its specifications, so I can't make exact measurements of its performance, but I'm not sure of the A8 beating it and the A8's memory advantage is also negates somewhat by it needing to dedicate some of its memory to its IGP. I do consider the better display to be an advantage, but that's pretty much it AFAIK.

Still, IDC what GT 630M it is, it can't take on the A10 plus a Radeon 7670M :)
 

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NZ76OW/ref=gno_cart_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1TV2IZBMIOEFC so this will be perfect, thanks for the help
 

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"The NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M is a relatively fast middle-class graphics card for laptops."
Ref: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-630M.63761.0.html

7670M
"The AMD Radeon HD 7670M is a middle class graphics card for laptops and based on the same chip as the Radeon HD 6650M."
Ref: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7670M.69483.0.html

On the right side it appears that they are Very close. However if you scoot down and on the right side you can see the FPS for many popular games (NOT a gamer so didn't look will leave that up to you).

If they are close enought then the i5 would be the better choice - if not and gaming is the main issue go for the amd.
 

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The problem is that the GT 630M, like many other mobile graphics cards, has a huge range of performance. Without knowing exactly what its specs are, we can only guess at how it performs. The 7670M, however, is much more predictable and has the A10's GPU for Dual Graphics in situations where it works well (which have increased significantly with the last few driver releases).
 

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That'll depend on the cooling. The APU itself can handle a lot of overclocking on both the GPU and CPU frequencies, but laptops can only handle so much heat. I'm not particularly familiar with the limits of the cooling in any laptops for overclocking, so the best way of finding such info would be to look up the limits of that particular laptop, but I on't think that enough people overclock their laptops (especially on low end systems) for there to be much info on it circulating. There's a member here at Tom's who has an overclocked APU laptop, I'll see if I can find his username.