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Bob Miller wrote:
> L Alpert wrote:
>> Bob Miller wrote:
>>
>>> 42 wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <tV9Id.1796$r27.1707@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
>>>> robmx@earthlink.net says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> not@127.0.0.1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Miller <robmx@earthlink.net> scribed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... I'd like to watch DTV on an
>>>>>>> airplane, bus, boat or at the beach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy your 5" cofdm tv.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll keep my 52" 8VSB HDTV which works perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who said anything about 5"? HDTV is possible with Heads up
>>>>> displays that can be driven by a cell phone receiver. You will
>>>>> have palm sized projectors that will also include integrated
>>>>> COFDM receivers and cast an HD image.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Onto what? You mentioned tv at the beach... what? Planning on
>>>> projecting your images onto the big white fat guy a few towels
>>>> over?
>>>>> These things are both possible now. LED palm sized projectors are
>>>>> due out this year for around $600. You can surely have an HDTV on
>>>>> your boat or in your motorhome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your viewing distance in a motorhome is what 3.5 feet? You want a
>>>> 50" TV in there?
>>>>
>>>> Boats? Oh come now, if the boats big enough to have a room for an
>>>> HDTV, its more than big enough for a satellite system, and the
>>>> owner of such a boat can afford it.
>>>>
>>>> And Planes? OTA HDTV on planes simply aren't relevant
>>>> considerations, they show a cut-up inflight movie on *little*
>>>> screens remember? Trains? Get real. Zero market for OTA HDTV on
>>>> passenger trains in
>>>> North America.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> HD can have a large screen on a train.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You don't ride a lot of trains do you? At any rate, same a boat, if
>>>> the train were catering to a crowd who wanted to watch large screen
>>>> hdtv, they'd get a satellite.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It goes on
>>>>> and on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not really. Unless kids are going to project cartoons onto sides of
>>>> buildings as they walk to school....
>>>>
>>>> Mobile OTA HDTV is an irrelevant concern. And the very few
>>>> legitimate applications for Mobile HDTV will be better served by a
>>>> satellite anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Satellite doesn't even work for radio mobile. XM and Sirius need
>>> quantities of terrestrial transmitters to work. Satellite mobile TV
>>> is available now. Antennas are expensive and anything blocks the
>>> signal. It is true line of sight. They would need massive
>>> terrestrial transmitters to really work mobile. Say about the same
>>> number as a terrestrial only system.
>>>
>>> So you don't want to be able to receive DTV mobile or portable. Many
>>> of us would. Why do we have to settle for just what you want? Many
>>> of us can't even get a signal in a fixed location. Why do we have to
>>> settle for that? Especially when there is a perfectly good system
>>> that works well mobile or fixed in all locations.
>>>
>>> What is the advantage that 8-VSB gives us that justifies the
>>> sacrifices? We lose with 8-VSB so what is the gain that makes it
>>> worthwhile?
>>> Bob Miller
>>
>>
>> With the onset of small mobile DVD players, the usefulness of mobile
>> broadcast TV diminishes. Besides, who wants to watch all of those
>> damned commercials that insult the intelligence of the audience?
>>
>> Mobile internet is probably more useful, though it may be difficult
>> with no passengers (I need to pull over just to progam the
>> navigation system). As well Satellite radio with terrestrial
>> repeaters seem to work well enough for me.....
>>
>>
> Oops! Didn't mean to say satellite radio didn't work. No it works but
> NEEDS terrestrial repeaters to do so. In fact there is an argument
> that satellite radio is using the satellites as an excuse to get a
> terrestrial digital radio system off the ground. A majority of people
> receive the terrestrial signal not the satellite.
>
> I would argue that the onset of "small mobile DVD players" is
> diminished by the onset of mobile TV broadcasting. Who needs DVDs
> when you have broadcast?
For those of us that detest commercials....well, you know my preference.
> At the very least the mobile experience will
> duplicate the fixed experience. How much video you watch from cable,
> satellite or broadcast now compared to DVD viewing will be similar
> mobile. More likely the mobile DVD player will be replaced by the
> mobile DTV receiver with hard drive.
I doubt it. Unless using a satellite feed, depending on where one is going,
always going in and out of range from station in location A to location B.
If a DVR is used, it will most likely be linked via satellite to the
internet as so one can grab content from there and location will not matter,
nor will broadcast signals be needed.
>
> This is all about a mobile subscription service plus free OTA DTV so
> you can get content without commercials also.
Why bother with the hassle of OTA if you already have subscription services,
unless those services do not carry what you want?
>
> Bob Miller
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