Murderer's Request for D&D in Prison Denied

[C00lIT]

[citation][nom]Fox Montage[/nom]My gamer-nerd sympathy kinda dissipated when I read:[/citation]
Too little details, what if the boyfriend beat the crap out of his sister ?

 

[v1ze]

I be willing to bet that the dead BF was probably "playing" too rough with the sister's face. If that were the case, I think all brothers instantly understand and feel empathetic towards Mr. Singer.

 

[mlopinto2k1]

[citation][nom]WOW[/nom]Mr. Singer is currently serving a life sentence for bludgeoning his sister's boyfriend to death with a sledgehammer.[/citation]Jeeeeeez. That must have hurt. For a sec.

 

[mlopinto2k1]

[citation][nom]c00lit[/nom]Too little details, what if the boyfriend beat the crap out of his sister ?[/citation]True, true.. especially coming from a guy who plays D&D. You don't see murderers playing that very often. Not that I would know but this is an obvious shock enough to post.

 

[maestintaolius]

Well, I would think that if they want to punish him they should take away his 3.5e then give him 4e and force him to play that.

 

[Supertrek32]

[citation][nom]Maxor127[/nom]Eh, to be fair it's pretty stupid to take away D&D materials because of "gang-related activity." Are they allowed to play any games whether board or card or anything? If so, it's a bad double standard. And I assume they're allowed to read books? Personally, if I were running a prison, I'd want to encourage people to take part in social activities or personal hobbies that don't involve killing and raping each other.[/citation]
Actually, D&D would be an amazing tool for gangs inside prisons. You can organize just about anything under the guise of it being a game.

"As you leave the bar, you see someone sneaking some food out under his shirt, what do you do?" Translation: Someone's been siphoning drugs off, what do you want us to do about him, boss?

"Chase him down and rough him up to make him pay."

 

[the_krasno]

"After all, punishment is a fundamental aspect of imprisonment

Wait a sec! I thought REHABILITATION was the fundamental aspect of it! After all, it makes more sense to make them think about what they've done than to punish them for it and making them hold a grudge against society.

The main reason ex-cons fall back to their old habits is because the prison didn't offer an adequate place to change, to REDEEM themselves and be proper citizens.

US has the highest percentage of its population in jail of the entire planet. What is the reason? Better detective work and justice? Or just lousy prisons and unreasonable laws?

 

[scryer_360]

How does this encourage gang-related activity? I don't really care what this con thinks, but does anyone else read this and then think back to that episode of the Drew Carey show where Drew and his friends are ordered to stay away from each other, because the judge thought they were a gang?

 

[starryman]

Easy solution. Give him D&D and take away his food & toilet.

 

[DearSX]

I don't believe incarceration is about punishment, might as well call it revenge. That is pretty sick imo. A lot of people are pretty sick.

I say give him his game if its safe. Not respecting his rights is unhealthy and abusive imo. And just cause he did it doesn't mean its ok to do it to him. That is my opinion.

The system is pretty sick and I think it will continue to fail.

 

[starryman]

Easy solution. Give him D&D and take away his food & toilet.

 

[Onus]

The primary purpose of the criminal justice system is to keep society safe, not to rehabilitate criminals. If doing the latter assists that purpose, then fine. "Punishment" only makes sense in the context of educating the convict that what he did was wrong; don't do it again. Nothing about this story suggests this guy is a psychopath whose potential value to society will never exceed the risk of having him loose among us. While the manner of his crime may have been gruesome, there's not enough detail here on why he did it, and I suspect a life sentence is inappropriate. If he had a history of [violent] criminal behavior, he probably should have been put down, but if this was a hot-blooded response to the bf giving his sister a black eye, it doesn't take years in jail to teach him not to take such matters into his own hands (a year or two ought to do, maybe followed by another year or two of probation). Still, while serving his sentence, about the only right he has is to a minimal standard of care. He has no right to play D&D.
That said, if there is ongoing gang activity in the jail that is not consistent with the goal of keeping society safe, then the most cost effective means of dealing with it is most likely identifying the involved inmates and putting them down. Game over.

 

[Gin Fushicho]

At least give him his Manuscript he wrote back.

 

[datawrecker]

[citation][nom]homrqt[/nom]If they put "not a tech article" in the title, then I won't click on the link. Maybe they should create a separate section of tom's just called "interesting articles that are not tech related." But I see I got your panties in a bunch over it.[/citation]

Really??? Couldnt tell this wasn't tech article by the title. Your stupidity astounds me.

 

[quadibloc]

I don't know how to judge the claim that it encouraged gang-related activity, but it is true that a game of D&D brings a bunch of prisoners together, so it could be used as a cover for planning an escape attempt or the type of activity in question.

 

[kravmaga]

[citation][nom]quadibloc[/nom]I don't know how to judge the claim that it encouraged gang-related activity, but it is true that a game of D&D brings a bunch of prisoners together, so it could be used as a cover for planning an escape attempt or the type of activity in question.[/citation]

Read today's penny arcade?
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/774280332_HXXsE-L.jpg

 

[mayne92]

[citation][nom]dearsx[/nom]I don't believe incarceration is about punishment, might as well call it revenge. That is pretty sick imo. A lot of people are pretty sick. I say give him his game if its safe. Not respecting his rights is unhealthy and abusive imo. And just cause he did it doesn't mean its ok to do it to him. That is my opinion.The system is pretty sick and I think it will continue to fail.[/citation]
Wow. Just WOW! You know what's funny...you make it sound like it is his right to have a game...in prison. So he killed someone...but lets make prison a fucking nice vacation...with free health-care...and play games to keep him occupied. From the sounds of it...you must be a liberal! BTW, you wouldn't be so sympathetic if he had brutally murdered a member of your family...now would you?

 

[stromm]

DM: "What'd you roll?"
Kevin: "Um, a one."
DM: "Roll again."
Kevin: "Sh1te."
DM: "What'd you roll this time?"
Kevin: "Another one!"
DM: "Sucks to be you. Your appeal broke."

 

[JonathanDeane]

Prisoner #1 Ok you make saving throw VS penetration....

Now prisoner #2 your going to have to roll bend bars lift gates to see if you manage to "bend him over"

Prisoner #3 Prisoner #1 has made his saving throw now you have to roll to see who gets initiative for the next round...

 

[demonhorde665]

[citation][nom]Fox Montage[/nom]My gamer-nerd sympathy kinda dissipated when I read:[/citation]

youar e missing a lot of details in this story .. perhaps the man he bludgeoned to death was attackign his sister ? perhaps her BF was extremely abusive and this was self defence , to naively beleive that our courts rightfuly imprison every one in there , and always lets the innocent deffenders go .. is quite wrong .. i'd like to ehar teh ccourt case more before i amke my mind up about this guy .. cos i know a few of my sis's ex's that definitely need thier ass kicked and i ahve known some high school firends who married abbusice spouses that would choke them and shit liek that , it is seasy to see some one grap a hammer to defend them selves in such a case .. i'd jsut have to know more details before i made my mind up on it.

that aside how the fuck would DnD promote gangs any more than jsut throwing a bunch of criminals together in a locked down facility would ?