Obama Wants Internet ID for All Americans

[shaun_shaun]

ha ha !!! thats the change that Americans waiting for !!! LOL !!!

 

[matt_b]

What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords

This is exactly what I want! So when I have my identity stolen, they get complimentary ownership to my credit card info, online banking and checking, online BillPay, access to my email, my Paypal account, and many more automatically!

 

[matt_b]

[citation][nom]rhino13[/nom]The best thing about Obama is there's only one year left in his presidency.[/citation]
Time doesn't fly that fast, he has two years left - he took office in January of 2009.

 

[Silmarunya]

I know anti-government fanatics will oppose this no matter its merits, so I wonder why I'm writing this post. Still, here goes.

Many European countries have been using electronic ID cards (yes, we have those and we aren't being oppressed by the evil government yet) that also serve as an internet ID like the one proposed by Obama.

So far there are no reports of it being exploited, hacked or otherwise used for malicious purposes. On the contrary, it has reduced preying by paedophiles (as many online chatrooms attended by young users now require you to use such an ID, thus preventing you from lying about your age), has increased the security of online banking and so on.

The costs are extremely low (we get readers and ID cards for free, but even if you had to purchase them, costs are just a few dollars), the security improvements massive and the amount of private data stored minimal (the government can hardly use your age, area of residence and other such basic facts to oppress you in anyway, as they already have these anyway)

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]matt_b[/nom]This is exactly what I want! So when I have my identity stolen, they get complimentary ownership to my credit card info, online banking and checking, online BillPay, access to my email, my Paypal account, and many more automatically![/citation]

No, not really. These devices don't replace traditional security measures, they simply add another layer on top of it. One that doesn't contain any personal data other than a few minor ones the government already knows anyway (like date of birth and area of residence), does not stock passwords or does not in any other way pose a security risk. Instead, it's an extra layer of verification that can make many services a lot safer.

 

[a-nano-moose]

So the assumption is that they will use smart cards. I don't believe that for a minute, they are too easy to break or lose/steal. what they are intending is to use RFID chips implanted under the skin so that it will be more convenient to track, um I mean more convenient for you to use it.

 

[zak_mckraken]

Good idea, in theory. Also, communism works, in theory.

I wouldn't be so scared about anonymity, more about security. Grouping all my passwords into one digital identity is awesome, but if it ever gets cracked and stolen, I might as well kill myself now! Maybe they could implement it with dedicated hardware, like a card reader or better yet, biometrics. Any hardware can be bypassed, but it's a huge step over a simple user/password system.

 

[Bolbi]

This would be nearly impossible to ram through the Republican-controlled House. I wonder if Obama will try to enact this via one of his czars, or perhaps through one of the numerous "regulatory bodies" in the federal government.

 

[cptnjarhead]

Change you can believe in!

 

[K2N hater]

This isn't about security but control.

 

[pozaks]

I'm a paranoid antigovernment anarchist, and this makes me EVEN CRAZIER. BAMA TAKEN MAH IDENTITAH!

 

[Silmarunya]

[citation][nom]zak_mckraken[/nom]Good idea, in theory. Also, communism works, in theory.I wouldn't be so scared about anonymity, more about security. Grouping all my passwords into one digital identity is awesome, but if it ever gets cracked and stolen, I might as well kill myself now! Maybe they could implement it with dedicated hardware, like a card reader or better yet, biometrics. Any hardware can be bypassed, but it's a huge step over a simple user/password system.[/citation]

I don't know what they are planning to do, but every country that uses this type of ID's uses a card reader - that's why I defend its usage a security mechanism.

 

[AGPC]

who does he think he is hitler?

 

[cadder]

What we need are internet ID's for people in other countries, the people who are responsible for spam, malware and fraud.

 

[AGPC]

[citation][nom]decembermouse[/nom]I don't like it. I don't need another thing making life easier; Americans already have way too many of those as it is. It's why more than half of us are sadly obese and why nearly all of us are impatient. Also, this does sound a little Big Brother-ish. Do not want.[/citation]
i t wont make our lives easier. it will make it easier for the gov to track us!

 

[COLGeek]

The US Dept of Defense has been using similar technology, the Common Access Card (CAC) for years. In spite of the suspicions and skepticism of many members here in the forums, the concept of a hardened Internet ID is solid. It is all about ensuring you are who you say you are and having a system in place to verify the information. This tech could seriously cut onto on-line identity theft and fraud. HOOAH!!!

 

[spellbinder2050]

There's no way they're going to put this in place. I'm going to revolt nastily if they try to put this in place.

 

[Yuka]

ROFL, like they don't know already what you do, eat, like or live for the matter.

What he's saying is: "It's up to you doing it the right way or letting us do it our way".

Besides, having an ID doesn't mean at all they will know everything about you... At least, more than they could find out using regular tracking methods (telling the ISP to give them your info, tapping your line, etc..).

Being paranoid about this stuff makes your lives shorter 😛

Cheers!

 

[Wisecracker]

[citation][nom]COLGeek[/nom]The US Dept of Defense has been using similar technology, the Common Access Card (CAC) for years. In spite of the suspicions and skepticism of many members here in the forums, the concept of a hardened Internet ID is solid. It is all about ensuring you are who you say you are and having a system in place to verify the information. This tech could seriously cut onto on-line identity theft and fraud. HOOAH!!![/citation]

Good luck convincing this bunch -- so far it looks to be:

Common Sense - 2
Lunatic Fringe - 36

[citation][nom]pozaks[/nom]I'm a paranoid antigovernment anarchist, and this makes me EVEN CRAZIER. BAMA TAKEN MAH IDENTITAH![/citation]

:lol:

You need to hook up with this guy:

[citation][nom]spellbinder2050[/nom]There's no way they're going to put this in place. I'm going to revolt nastily if they try to put this in place.[/citation]

"What's the Frequency, Kenneth?"

😀

 

[the associate]

Ppl don't seem to understand american's skepticism towards anything thats advertised to provide "security" without privacy invasion, probably because EVERY single time they've been promised something by the government, they get bent the **** over.
I'm at least glad I didn't see ignorant ppl claiming americans to be stupid, they've all been waking up since 2001 and have been lied to enough to realize when to tell a new idea to **** off.

Sure it works great in europe, but that's europe, have you not been following the controversial BS of the US government since george bush was in power?
Their paranoia only makes sense, and I agree, screw this plan until they finally get a trustworthy government, however long that will take...