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oops, forgot to mention, get yourself iPodder software from:
http://www.ipodder.org/directory/4/ipodderSoftware
and subscribe to Podcast feed here:
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/podcast.xml
.... so you will be getting MP3s automatically.
Podcasting is not is not just about "MP3s" it is about "RSS brought to the
next level"...

"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/podcasts/Smartphone_News_Review_3.mp3
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> I am apparently the only one interested in Podcasting about Windows
> Mobile - no MVP (I asked many) is eager to do it... OK, so be it. It is a
> new medium that is raising drastically, not just a fad, not just a "flash
> in a pan"...
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No, now I've figured out what the hell you're on about, I much prefer
Simeda's Pocketster for this - it works using Rendezvous protocol, so
rather than subscribing to a feed, you just 'discover' nearby devices
and connect to their music server ;-))

http://www.simeda.com/pocketster.html complete with own
iPod-as-PPC-Disk hacks.

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:02:36 +0100, "www.MSmobiles.com"
<nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote:

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>http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/podcasts/Smartphone_News_Review_3.mp3
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>I am apparently the only one interested in Podcasting about Windows Mobile -
>no MVP (I asked many) is eager to do it... OK, so be it. It is a new medium
>that is raising drastically, not just a fad, not just a "flash in a pan"...
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> No, now I've figured out what the hell you're on about, I much prefer
> Simeda's Pocketster for this - it works using Rendezvous protocol, so
> rather than subscribing to a feed, you just 'discover' nearby devices
> and connect to their music server ;-))
>
> http://www.simeda.com/pocketster.html complete with own
> iPod-as-PPC-Disk hacks.
>
This sounds pretty cool - any ideas of how many people really use it ? Do
the podcasting devices show up as peers with a normal wi-fi scanning
proggie, like wififofum ? I ask because as I was idly wardrving through town
the other day I picked up a peer called "bethanyradio". I thought it might
be one of these sorts of things but didn't try to connect (I never do when
wardriving as politeness requires).



Rachael
 
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:02:36 +0100, "Rachael the Wiccan Rat"
<none@badrats.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:l5qvn0hmdl0eltvgpvt0hlp26b99pe4k3d@4ax.com...
>> No, now I've figured out what the hell you're on about, I much prefer
>> Simeda's Pocketster for this - it works using Rendezvous protocol, so
>> rather than subscribing to a feed, you just 'discover' nearby devices
>> and connect to their music server ;-))
>>
>> http://www.simeda.com/pocketster.html complete with own
>> iPod-as-PPC-Disk hacks.
>>
>This sounds pretty cool - any ideas of how many people really use it ? Do
>the podcasting devices show up as peers with a normal wi-fi scanning
>proggie, like wififofum ?

No, it's a different tech : Podcast uses RDF feeds to indicate a
transmission. You need some way to aggregate these feeds, which
normally requires a web server of some sort.

While Pocketster does use a web server to respond to requests for
content, it's not sending RSS. Rather, the protocol itself
("Rendezvous") indicates that a service is available on the network.

Other clients using Rendezvous then 'discover' the service
transparently, so your PPC would 'find' pocketster clients running on
other PPCs which were broadcasting.

In fact, the rendezvous protocol actually puts the PPC's Wifi into
promiscuous mode, which means it's rather acting like an access point
- it will accept connections rather than just be a node on a
pre-defined network.

> I ask because as I was idly wardrving through town
>the other day I picked up a peer called "bethanyradio". I thought it might
>be one of these sorts of things but didn't try to connect (I never do when
>wardriving as politeness requires).

Probably you're seeing an AP's SSID called bethanyradio, rather than a
specific machine with the Wifi card (peer to peer):

I guess this is going to happen if you set your Configure Wireless
Networks to access 'all available' or 'computer to computer' - if you
set it to access APs only, probably bethanyradio would still be there.
If you set it to computer to computer then bethanyradio would
disappear if it was an Access Point.
 
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:02:36 +0100, "Rachael the Wiccan Rat"
> <none@badrats.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >news:l5qvn0hmdl0eltvgpvt0hlp26b99pe4k3d@4ax.com...
> >> No, now I've figured out what the hell you're on about, I much prefer
> >> Simeda's Pocketster for this - it works using Rendezvous protocol, so
> >> rather than subscribing to a feed, you just 'discover' nearby devices
> >> and connect to their music server ;-))
> >>
> >> http://www.simeda.com/pocketster.html complete with own
> >> iPod-as-PPC-Disk hacks.
> >>
> >This sounds pretty cool - any ideas of how many people really use it ? Do
> >the podcasting devices show up as peers with a normal wi-fi scanning
> >proggie, like wififofum ?
>
> No, it's a different tech : Podcast uses RDF feeds to indicate a
> transmission. You need some way to aggregate these feeds, which
> normally requires a web server of some sort.
>
> While Pocketster does use a web server to respond to requests for
> content, it's not sending RSS. Rather, the protocol itself
> ("Rendezvous") indicates that a service is available on the network.
>
> Other clients using Rendezvous then 'discover' the service
> transparently, so your PPC would 'find' pocketster clients running on
> other PPCs which were broadcasting.
>
> In fact, the rendezvous protocol actually puts the PPC's Wifi into
> promiscuous mode, which means it's rather acting like an access point
> - it will accept connections rather than just be a node on a
> pre-defined network.

I see.

>
> > I ask because as I was idly wardrving through town
> >the other day I picked up a peer called "bethanyradio". I thought it
might
> >be one of these sorts of things but didn't try to connect (I never do
when
> >wardriving as politeness requires).
>
> Probably you're seeing an AP's SSID called bethanyradio, rather than a
> specific machine with the Wifi card (peer to peer):
>
> I guess this is going to happen if you set your Configure Wireless
> Networks to access 'all available' or 'computer to computer' -

Not me. I disable wzc when wardriving to stop wzc connecting me to access
points that aren't mine by accident - and when it is running I only want to
connect to my own AP, hence I don't check "connect to unprefered" if that's
what you mean. It's just wififofum that is showing the hits.

if you
> set it to access APs only, probably bethanyradio would still be there.
> If you set it to computer to computer then bethanyradio would
> disappear if it was an Access Point.

wififom detects either afaik, reported this one as a peer. If I see it again
I'll investigate further (as far as you can do from a distance anyway ;-) )


Rachael