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can anyone link me to a site that will display the relative sizes of TVs to
each other? the numeric specs are tough to visualize...
 
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Alan Figgatt wrote:
> The rule of thumb if you want at least the same screen height (and

> thus size for 4:3 material) is to replace the 4:3 TV with a 16:9 TV
that
> is 1.2 times the diagonal dimensions of the 4:3 set. In short,
replace
> the 27" 4:3 with at least a 32" or 34" widescreen, a 32" 4:3 with a
37
> or 38" widescreen and so on.

In other words, your 34" widescreen is as "big" as standard 27".
 
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Khee Mao wrote:
> not exactly. I was looking for one that would show 2 different sized

> rectangles, one for my current set, and one representing a newer set,
so I
> could gauge about how much bigger the new set would actually be...I
> currently have a 27inch sd that sits no more than 11 xbox game case
lengths
> from my viewing location (I still have to look up what those
measure), and I
> wanted to see how much bigger a 34 and 44 inch widescreen would
be...I guess
> I'm more of a picture person.

No matter how you put it, widescreen is smaller than fullscreen. (Hint:
why do they call it fullscreen?) To be more specific:

15" standard nodebook is reasonably sized, while 15" widescreen
powerbook is a joke.

The widescreen movie on 27" standard TV is unbearable.

The 100" home projection sceen is fantastic, while 100" widescreen is
just an average size.

If you think that theater-sized widescreen is impressive, then you have
yet to see the IMAX.
 
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<mikharakiri_nospaum@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Khee Mao wrote:
>> not exactly. I was looking for one that would show 2 different sized
>
>> rectangles, one for my current set, and one representing a newer set,
> so I
>> could gauge about how much bigger the new set would actually be...I
>> currently have a 27inch sd that sits no more than 11 xbox game case
> lengths
>> from my viewing location (I still have to look up what those
> measure), and I
>> wanted to see how much bigger a 34 and 44 inch widescreen would
> be...I guess
>> I'm more of a picture person.
>
> No matter how you put it, widescreen is smaller than fullscreen. (Hint:
> why do they call it fullscreen?) To be more specific:
>
> 15" standard nodebook is reasonably sized, while 15" widescreen
> powerbook is a joke.
>
> The widescreen movie on 27" standard TV is unbearable.
>
> The 100" home projection sceen is fantastic, while 100" widescreen is
> just an average size.
>
> If you think that theater-sized widescreen is impressive, then you have
> yet to see the IMAX.
>

I'm looking for something like:

++++++++
++++++++
++++++++
++++++++ =27 inch

++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++ =34 inch

+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++ =44 inch
 
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Khee Mao wrote:
> I'm looking for something like:
>
> ++++++++
> ++++++++
> ++++++++
> ++++++++ =27 inch
>
> ++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++++++ =34 inch
>
> +++++++++++++++++++
> +++++++++++++++++++
> +++++++++++++++++++
> +++++++++++++++++++
> +++++++++++++++++++ =44 inch

Here we go:

Standard 50 inch
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++

Widescreen 50 inch
++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++

Letterbox 50 inch
++++++++++++++++++++++

Note that widescreen and letterbox are wider, as adverticed. Do you
care?
 
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<mikharakiri_nospaum@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Note that widescreen and letterbox are wider, as adverticed. Do you
> care?
>


NO, I DON'T CARE, BUT THANKS FOR THE HELP ANYWAY!
 
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"Khee Mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
> can anyone link me to a site that will display the relative sizes of TVs
> to each other? the numeric specs are tough to visualize...

http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi

Is this what you are looking for?
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<cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Khee Mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> can anyone link me to a site that will display the relative sizes of TVs
>> to each other? the numeric specs are tough to visualize...
>
> http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi
>
> Is this what you are looking for?
> Chip
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not exactly. I was looking for one that would show 2 different sized
rectangles, one for my current set, and one representing a newer set, so I
could gauge about how much bigger the new set would actually be...I
currently have a 27inch sd that sits no more than 11 xbox game case lengths
from my viewing location (I still have to look up what those measure), and I
wanted to see how much bigger a 34 and 44 inch widescreen would be...I guess
I'm more of a picture person.
 
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cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> "Khee Mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>can anyone link me to a site that will display the relative sizes of TVs
>>to each other? the numeric specs are tough to visualize...
>
>
> http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi
>
> Is this what you are looking for?
> Chip

The Cave creations site is a useful one. But the math is not that hard
for 4:3 (4^2 + 3^2 = 5^2) versus 16:9 (16^2 + 9^2 = 18.36^2). Screen
height for a 4:3 set is 0.6 (3/5) of the diagonal versus 0.49 (9/18.36)
for the widescreen.

The rule of thumb if you want at least the same screen height (and
thus size for 4:3 material) is to replace the 4:3 TV with a 16:9 TV that
is 1.2 times the diagonal dimensions of the 4:3 set. In short, replace
the 27" 4:3 with at least a 32" or 34" widescreen, a 32" 4:3 with a 37
or 38" widescreen and so on.

Alan F
 
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The CaveCreations link is likely the best at giving what the relative screen
images will be based on diagonal size and aspects ratio. BTW, I went from a
27" tube to a 42" LCD at the same 8-9 foot distance and it seemed HUGE for
about 2 weeks. After another month or 2, I was thinking I could have gone to
a 50 incher. I don't think you can avoid effects of initial impressions and
the desenitization that comes from having the new set around for a while. If
need be, why not just make cut-outs of the relative sizes? I have heard of
people who do that when trying to figure out how to move a "big box" unit
down basement stairs, for example.

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> <cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:20050331160550.925$3M@newsreader.com...
>> "Khee Mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> can anyone link me to a site that will display the relative sizes of TVs
>>> to each other? the numeric specs are tough to visualize...
>>
>> http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi
>>
>> Is this what you are looking for?
>> Chip
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>
> not exactly. I was looking for one that would show 2 different sized
> rectangles, one for my current set, and one representing a newer set, so I
> could gauge about how much bigger the new set would actually be...I
> currently have a 27inch sd that sits no more than 11 xbox game case
> lengths from my viewing location (I still have to look up what those
> measure), and I wanted to see how much bigger a 34 and 44 inch widescreen
> would be...I guess I'm more of a picture person.
>
 
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"MrMike6by9" <MrMike6by9@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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> The CaveCreations link is likely the best at giving what the relative
> screen images will be based on diagonal size and aspects ratio. BTW, I
> went from a 27" tube to a 42" LCD at the same 8-9 foot distance and it
> seemed HUGE for about 2 weeks. After another month or 2, I was thinking I
> could have gone to a 50 incher. I don't think you can avoid effects of
> initial impressions and the desenitization that comes from having the new
> set around for a while. If need be, why not just make cut-outs of the
> relative sizes? I have heard of people who do that when trying to figure
> out how to move a "big box" unit down basement stairs, for example.
>
>

thanks, Mike, that's actually a good idea. are you still wishing you went
larger? if all goes well, I'll have a 44 incher about 7 feet off, which is
a bit smaller (or further) than the thx recommendation (but still a lot
better than 27"!)...I haven't looked much at the 50 inchers as I really
don't want to spend more than $2000 unless I "have" to.
 

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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:33:15 -0700, "Khee Mao"
<big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote:

>thanks, Mike, that's actually a good idea. are you still wishing you went
>larger? if all goes well, I'll have a 44 incher about 7 feet off, which is
>a bit smaller (or further) than the thx recommendation (but still a lot
>better than 27"!)...I haven't looked much at the 50 inchers as I really
>don't want to spend more than $2000 unless I "have" to.

My JVC 52" was ridiculously huge the first couple of days. Pushed the
couch back to get another foot of viewing distance (9'). I thought for
sure I had gone overboard ... maybe the 42" would have been enough.

Now, I can picture a 61" at the same distance :)
 
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DaveR wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:33:15 -0700, "Khee Mao"
> <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>thanks, Mike, that's actually a good idea. are you still wishing you went
>>larger? if all goes well, I'll have a 44 incher about 7 feet off, which is
>>a bit smaller (or further) than the thx recommendation (but still a lot
>>better than 27"!)...I haven't looked much at the 50 inchers as I really
>>don't want to spend more than $2000 unless I "have" to.
>
>
> My JVC 52" was ridiculously huge the first couple of days. Pushed the
> couch back to get another foot of viewing distance (9'). I thought for
> sure I had gone overboard ... maybe the 42" would have been enough.
>
> Now, I can picture a 61" at the same distance :)

I got a 42" plasma and have had the same experience. I don't regret
getting the 42" as part of the reason I went for the 42" (besides the
extra $ for the 50" HD) as it is the largest size I can move around
without asking for help from a neighbor. (It sits on a table stand). But
sitting there I sometimes think how much better movies and HD would look
on a 50" widescreen. Going for big screens with NTSC SD meant you just
got a big fuzzy picture. But both DVDs and HD are a different kettle of
fish.

In a few years when I am ready to upgrade to a new HD flat screen set
- be it LCD, plasma, SED - I expect I will go for a 50" to 55" 1920x1080
wall mounted set - or even bigger. And likely will very rarely head out
to a movie theater, if at all.

Alan F
 
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"Alan Figgatt" <afiggatt@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I got a 42" plasma and have had the same experience. I don't regret
> getting the 42" as part of the reason I went for the 42" (besides the
> extra $ for the 50" HD) as it is the largest size I can move around
> without asking for help from a neighbor. (It sits on a table stand). But
> sitting there I sometimes think how much better movies and HD would look
> on a 50" widescreen. Going for big screens with NTSC SD meant you just got
> a big fuzzy picture. But both DVDs and HD are a different kettle of fish.
>
> In a few years when I am ready to upgrade to a new HD flat screen set -
> be it LCD, plasma, SED - I expect I will go for a 50" to 55" 1920x1080
> wall mounted set - or even bigger. And likely will very rarely head out to
> a movie theater, if at all.
>
> Alan F


damn! everyone says they wished they'd bought bigger! you're not making
this any easier for me! I wish there was a website that would let you see
how big a set would be in a given room, argh!!!
 
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:07:02 -0700, "Khee Mao"
<big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Alan Figgatt" <afiggatt@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> I got a 42" plasma and have had the same experience. I don't regret
>> getting the 42" as part of the reason I went for the 42" (besides the
>> extra $ for the 50" HD) as it is the largest size I can move around
>> without asking for help from a neighbor. (It sits on a table stand). But
>> sitting there I sometimes think how much better movies and HD would look
>> on a 50" widescreen. Going for big screens with NTSC SD meant you just got
>> a big fuzzy picture. But both DVDs and HD are a different kettle of fish.
>>
>> In a few years when I am ready to upgrade to a new HD flat screen set -
>> be it LCD, plasma, SED - I expect I will go for a 50" to 55" 1920x1080
>> wall mounted set - or even bigger. And likely will very rarely head out to
>> a movie theater, if at all.
>>
>> Alan F
>
>
>damn! everyone says they wished they'd bought bigger! you're not making
>this any easier for me! I wish there was a website that would let you see
>how big a set would be in a given room, argh!!!
>
Read somewhere that seating distance for HD is 1.5 to 2 times screen
width. That worked for me. My screen width is 80" and seating distance
is 13'.
 
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> Read somewhere that seating distance for HD is 1.5 to 2 times screen
> width. That worked for me. My screen width is 80" and seating distance
> is 13'.


wow! that's a big tv! but you are still out of spec!!!

http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

I'm sure you'll have many sleepless nights over this;)
 
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"Khee Mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> thanks, Mike, that's actually a good idea. are you still wishing you went
> larger? if all goes well, I'll have a 44 incher about 7 feet off, which
> is a bit smaller (or further) than the thx recommendation (but still a lot
> better than 27"!)...I haven't looked much at the 50 inchers as I really
> don't want to spend more than $2000 unless I "have" to.

You'll do fine with that. Then, in a few years when you are ready to get to
a newer set, you can see if you want a larger size. That is part of my
thinking. I've had this set about 18 months now.

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>
> damn! everyone says they wished they'd bought bigger! you're not making
> this any easier for me! I wish there was a website that would let you
> see how big a set would be in a given room, argh!!!

Why not make up a cardboard mock-up of the size you are thinking of buying?
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<cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
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> >
>> damn! everyone says they wished they'd bought bigger! you're not making
>> this any easier for me! I wish there was a website that would let you
>> see how big a set would be in a given room, argh!!!
>
> Why not make up a cardboard mock-up of the size you are thinking of
> buying?
> Chip
>
that's what Mike suggested, and is a good idea...the only trouble is finding
a piece of cardboard that big! too bad there's not a webpage that can show
you relative sizes:(
 
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