Saga of a Replay sent back for repair.

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On Sun, 15 May 2005 20:22:38 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> You seem hell-bent over convincing the world that CA is useless. It may
>> be, but let's get back to the point: Replay took the guy's CHOICE away.
>> He could CHOOSE to use CA, or he could CHOOSE not to.
>>
>> Because YOU choose not to, you don't think anyone else would ever think
>> differently? And therefore the lack of CA is meaningless to anyone else?
>
>I can not speak for Elmo, only for myself.
>
>Many of the shows I watch CA is indeed useless, at least the automated
>version,,, I use Show/Nav and quite often it skips major chunks of time,
>jumping 15 minutes or more instead of the 3 I expected. This is the
>fault of the broadcaster for sure but still a PITA if using CA.
>
>Now, the shows my wife watches.... Let's just say it's the feature that
>most sold her on the REPLAY instead of a VCR.. Just just loves it.
>
>So would I call it useless... NEVER! But sometimes I do need to turn it off

And some people will never understand that I wasn't disagreeing with
thier opinion on CA, but reminding them that different people's
opinions can be quite different.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."

 

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One of my wife's first expierences with CA was watching Dr, Phill... Dr.
Phill makes some comment about "We'er oging to take a break now for some
commericials....Welcome back to our show...

Just about that fast

She was sold

I watch some shows where it's not so nice but that is ME, not she

BruceR wrote:
> From:Mark Lloyd
> mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx
>
> <snip>>
>
>>How do you determine if CA works on a certain show?
>>
>
>
> If I see a Commercial then I know it's not working. About the only time
> it has ever skipped program content is on Law & Order where they put up
> a black screen with a just a few words on it. Whn that happens, it's
> pretty easy to realize that something has been skipped. Occassionaly
> I've noticed that the end point of a commercial break might be off but
> that's easily recognized too.
> For the most part though I'd say that CA woks perfectly about 95% of
> the time and I'd never forego watching a show just because it wasn't CA
> friendly.
>
>

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"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
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In article <CfOhe.837$tX5.388@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> One of my wife's first expierences with CA was watching Dr, Phill... Dr.
> Phill makes some comment about "We'er oging to take a break now for some
> commericials....Welcome back to our show...
>
> Just about that fast
>
> She was sold

That's pretty much how it is for 85%-90% of the stuff I watch.

I'm VERY happy to suffer through the remaining 10% where it doesn't
work, given that I have nice alternate tools like QS and Instant Replay.

 

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one@atime.com wrote:
\> That's what I did.
> I picked up a used RTV5040 just in case one of my lifetime machines
> quits working. The lifetime activation is transferable, but I would
> want to save machine for the CA and internet transfers.

I spoke with them (Digital Network, or if you like Replay) about a
biling issue (Changing from monthly to lifetime) and they informed me
that they are no longer transfering lifetime subscriptions.

They will... However.... Fix your old unit
--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
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After a while you get to know which shows will work with CA.
American Idol works every time, like most other shows.
It's just a few that don't work, or work roughly.
I don't mind switching CA off if the show isn't co-operating.

Anyone notice some shows end late, so you miss the last couple
minutes? It doesn't bother me, but the networks must be trying to
conter act digital recording.

On Sun, 15 May 2005 18:50:51 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <CfOhe.837$tX5.388@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
> John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> One of my wife's first expierences with CA was watching Dr, Phill... Dr.
>> Phill makes some comment about "We'er oging to take a break now for some
>> commericials....Welcome back to our show...
>>
>> Just about that fast
>>
>> She was sold
>
>That's pretty much how it is for 85%-90% of the stuff I watch.
>
>I'm VERY happy to suffer through the remaining 10% where it doesn't
>work, given that I have nice alternate tools like QS and Instant Replay.

 

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On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:13:35 -0400, one@atime.com wrote:

>After a while you get to know which shows will work with CA.
>American Idol works every time, like most other shows.
>It's just a few that don't work, or work roughly.
>I don't mind switching CA off if the show isn't co-operating.
>
>Anyone notice some shows end late, so you miss the last couple
>minutes? It doesn't bother me, but the networks must be trying to
>conter act digital recording.
>

There is the "showguard" option at adds 5 minutes to a recording if
there's no show scheduled after this one. Enabling it is complex, and
involves WiRNS, but at least it stays once set. I enabled it a few
months ago and it's still working.

It helps keep you from missing the last bit of a show.

>On Sun, 15 May 2005 18:50:51 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
><elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <CfOhe.837$tX5.388@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
>> John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> One of my wife's first expierences with CA was watching Dr, Phill... Dr.
>>> Phill makes some comment about "We'er oging to take a break now for some
>>> commericials....Welcome back to our show...
>>>
>>> Just about that fast
>>>
>>> She was sold
>>
>>That's pretty much how it is for 85%-90% of the stuff I watch.
>>
>>I'm VERY happy to suffer through the remaining 10% where it doesn't
>>work, given that I have nice alternate tools like QS and Instant Replay.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."

 

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Here I am, the OP. Of course, I like CA. I also realize that it works
most of the time, but sometime misses commercials (particularly if they
are longer than 3 minutes) and sometimes skips things it shouldn't.

That being said, I wonder what leverage I had to get a nice 5040 back,
when I sent them an out-of-warranty unit. Since they are not presently
selling them, they said that they didn't have any in stock. Since the
unit is out-of-warranty they could have said they would do nothing.

In article <elmop-3C2E8F.08471615052005@text.usenetserver.com>,
elmop@nastydesigns.com says...

> Right. Temporarily. At MY command. MY choice. Not theirs.
>
> Notice the 55xx doesn't have that choice. When you take my choices
> away, you deny me something that I bought and paid for.
>
> You seem hell-bent over convincing the world that CA is useless. It may
> be, but let's get back to the point: Replay took the guy's CHOICE away.
> He could CHOOSE to use CA, or he could CHOOSE not to.
>
> Because YOU choose not to, you don't think anyone else would ever think
> differently? And therefore the lack of CA is meaningless to anyone else?

--
Jerry Bank
Trenton, New Jersey
Music is the language of the gods.

 

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Jerry Bank wrote:

> That being said, I wonder what leverage I had to get a nice 5040 back,
> when I sent them an out-of-warranty unit. Since they are not presently
> selling them, they said that they didn't have any in stock. Since the
> unit is out-of-warranty they could have said they would do nothing.

Alas, rules vary from state to state so I can't tell you what legal
remides you have other than "Call a Lawyer"

But I would suggest you contact them and advise them that they returned
a different unit than the one you sent in, Perhaps they will be willing
to send you the proper unit back.. and of course pay the return postage
for the one they sent you "by mistake"

Take the "I think you may have made a mistake" route
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"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
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one@atime.com wrote:

>
> Anyone notice some shows end late, so you miss the last couple
> minutes? It doesn't bother me, but the networks must be trying to
> conter act digital recording.

I miss the trailers on ALIAS most every week,, What bothers me more than
it ending a bit late is it starting a bit late though... That way if
there is any conflict on the "record this" list... The other show wins

Of course... I record ALIAS with a different recorder so it does not
matter (and I should get replay #3 in a day or two)


--
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"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http/community.compuserve.com/diabetes

 

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Mark Lloyd wrote:

>
> There is the "showguard" option at adds 5 minutes to a recording if
> there's no show scheduled after this one. Enabling it is complex, and
> involves WiRNS, but at least it stays once set. I enabled it a few
> months ago and it's still working.

Like the song says... "Tell us more"

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:25:19 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> There is the "showguard" option at adds 5 minutes to a recording if
>> there's no show scheduled after this one. Enabling it is complex, and
>> involves WiRNS, but at least it stays once set. I enabled it a few
>> months ago and it's still working.
>
>Like the song says... "Tell us more"

I found it from reading the AVSforum. You can do the same. Try
http/www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=45fa8f0eb8ac559608744fc5d9e76b35&threadid=504981&highlight=showguard

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."

 

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So what is Replay #3? Did you buy a 50xx off Ebay or take advantage of the
deeply discounted 55xxs from ReplayTV? I've been contemplating adding a
third, too. I love my two 5040s.

Regards,

Margaret

"John in Detroit" <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:wx_he.884$VS6.423@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> one@atime.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Anyone notice some shows end late, so you miss the last couple
>> minutes? It doesn't bother me, but the networks must be trying to
>> conter act digital recording.
>
> I miss the trailers on ALIAS most every week,, What bothers me more than
> it ending a bit late is it starting a bit late though... That way if there
> is any conflict on the "record this" list... The other show wins
>
> Of course... I record ALIAS with a different recorder so it does not
> matter (and I should get replay #3 in a day or two)
>
>
> --
> John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
> "Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
> Diabetic? http/community.compuserve.com/diabetes

 

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Mark Lloyd wrote:

> How do you determine if CA works on a certain show?

You watch it. When it doesn't work, it either skips:

A) Not enough. You see a commercial. Well, then you're no worse off,
are you? So just manually quick skip.

B) Too much.

Case 1: Starts skip too early. You just jump back. The jump back skips
over the commericals, too, so you probably only have to press it once or
twice. Then, while it's playing, turn C/A off, and manually skip.

Case 2: If it skips into the middle of a scene -- and it's pretty easy
to detect -- then press C/A OFF (to avoid the above), and jump back a
bit. I don't even realize I'm doing it, it's so automatic.

How to tell? You learn the patterns. Most shows when they come back
from commerical do not jump right into the middle of a scene or dialog.
There's usually a few seconds of an establishing shot.

....And if B) happens too much, you turn it off.

 

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Thanks Visiting in another window

Mark Lloyd wrote:
> I found it from reading the AVSforum. You can do the same. Try
> http/www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=45fa8f0eb8ac559608744fc5d9e76b35&threadid=504981&highlight=showguard
>

--
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"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http/community.compuserve.com/diabetes

 

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Deeply discounted 5504

Now all I have to do is figure out how to feed it (I'm running out of
antennas)

Margaret Wilson wrote:
> So what is Replay #3? Did you buy a 50xx off Ebay or take advantage of the
> deeply discounted 55xxs from ReplayTV? I've been contemplating adding a
> third, too. I love my two 5040s.

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http/community.compuserve.com/diabetes